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Post by Northy on Mar 21, 2022 8:10:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 10:06:39 GMT
So after all the millions not a shred of evidence she was ever abducted and the attempts to pin in on half a dozen individuals fell flat. The only possibly witnesses, the Smith family from Drogheda were ignored.
As John (xxxxx) ex ScotlandYard said, why was it only ever investigated as an abduction when was simply a theory?
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Post by noustie on Mar 21, 2022 11:00:23 GMT
So after all the millions not a shred of evidence she was ever abducted and the attempts to pin in on half a dozen individuals fell flat. The only possibly witnesses, the Smith family from Drogheda were ignored. As John (xxxxx) ex ScotlandYard said, why was it only ever investigated as an abduction when was simply a theory? I remember seeing a YouTube interview with the dog handler. They used the dog at the Jersey kids home and discredited it because of what happened in the McCann case saying it only found discarded baby teeth and coconut shells. Whole thing smells really funny.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 11:29:39 GMT
So after all the millions not a shred of evidence she was ever abducted and the attempts to pin in on half a dozen individuals fell flat. The only possibly witnesses, the Smith family from Drogheda were ignored. As John (xxxxx) ex ScotlandYard said, why was it only ever investigated as an abduction when was simply a theory? I remember seeing a YouTube interview with the dog handler. They used the dog at the Jersey kids home and discredited it because of what happened in the McCann case saying it only found discarded baby teeth and coconut shells. Whole thing smells really funny. Yep Keeler one of the dogs was the go to dog so to speak. Under Portuguese law, cadaver dogs cant be used as evidence but they certainly gave traces in the apartment and more. Don't do conspiracy theories but the biggest conspiracy theory is that she was abducted.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 22, 2022 5:30:26 GMT
I'm staying in Praia whilst house hunting and I walked past the apartment this morning, which got me thinking how it's all gone quiet on this Bruckner guy ? Is there going to be a trial ? It's the 15 year anniversary in a few weeks and still no resolution. The begging bowl comes out on the anniversaries along with another suspect. Still not a shred of evidence she was even abducted Re JonBenet. Interesting to hear the enhanced 911 call on the You Tube show. Another anniversary another smokescreen Madeleine McCann: Portuguese authorities declare formal suspect www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61183857
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 22, 2022 7:44:41 GMT
The begging bowl comes out on the anniversaries along with another suspect. Still not a shred of evidence she was even abducted Re JonBenet. Interesting to hear the enhanced 911 call on the You Tube show. Another anniversary another smokescreen Madeleine McCann: Portuguese authorities declare formal suspect www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61183857The Portuguese have now named him formally as "arguido" or formally named suspect. Couldn’t be anything to do with the 15th anniversary in May. From BBC News…. "On 3 May it will be 15 years since Madeleine was reported missing and under Portuguese law it would no longer be possible to declare someone a person of interest beyond this date. Declaring someone a person of interest is a necessary step to any criminal charges." In other words nothing to see here except more tax payers money down the drain.
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Post by noustie on Apr 22, 2022 8:31:43 GMT
The Portuguese have now named him formally as "arguido" or formally named suspect. Couldn’t be anything to do with the 15th anniversary in May. From BBC News…. "On 3 May it will be 15 years since Madeleine was reported missing and under Portuguese law it would no longer be possible to declare someone a person of interest beyond this date. Declaring someone a person of interest is a necessary step to any criminal charges." In other words nothing to see here except more tax payers money down the drain. Imagine if they found a noncey Russian had been in the vicinity - the coin would fire in!
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Post by flea79 on Apr 22, 2022 8:34:04 GMT
The Portuguese have now named him formally as "arguido" or formally named suspect. Couldn’t be anything to do with the 15th anniversary in May. From BBC News…. "On 3 May it will be 15 years since Madeleine was reported missing and under Portuguese law it would no longer be possible to declare someone a person of interest beyond this date. Declaring someone a person of interest is a necessary step to any criminal charges." In other words nothing to see here except more tax payers money down the drain. Maybe the dad holds a German passport that we didn't know about?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 9:51:33 GMT
Is it that time of year already
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 22, 2022 10:04:17 GMT
Is it that time of year already BBC are knocking up another documentary as we type.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 10:06:25 GMT
Is it that time of year already BBC are knocking up another documentary as we type. No doubt will use the word ,'abduction' at every opportunity despite not a shred of evidence 15 years later
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 22, 2022 11:18:22 GMT
Are they running out of money again?
Thought so....
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 22, 2022 15:01:35 GMT
The Portuguese have now named him formally as "arguido" or formally named suspect. Couldn’t be anything to do with the 15th anniversary in May. From BBC News…. "On 3 May it will be 15 years since Madeleine was reported missing and under Portuguese law it would no longer be possible to declare someone a person of interest beyond this date. Declaring someone a person of interest is a necessary step to any criminal charges." In other words nothing to see here except more tax payers money down the drain. Maybe the dad holds a German passport that we didn't know about? Yes probably. After all it’s cost the tax payer £12.5m for the Met to investigate so it’s something that could easily slip under their extensive radar.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 16:25:39 GMT
The Portuguese have now named him formally as "arguido" or formally named suspect. Couldn’t be anything to do with the 15th anniversary in May. From BBC News…. "On 3 May it will be 15 years since Madeleine was reported missing and under Portuguese law it would no longer be possible to declare someone a person of interest beyond this date. Declaring someone a person of interest is a necessary step to any criminal charges." In other words nothing to see here except more tax payers money down the drain. Maybe the dad holds a German passport that we didn't know about? Hyaduck will want him as our new manager
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Post by flea79 on Apr 22, 2022 16:27:20 GMT
Maybe the dad holds a German passport that we didn't know about? Hyaduck will want him as our new manager rather we didnt, he has too much experience of losing things!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 17:02:02 GMT
Hyaduck will want him as our new manager rather we didnt, he has too much experience of losing things 😉👍
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Post by Gods on Apr 22, 2022 19:35:27 GMT
I see the police are finally, 15 years too late, homing in on this Christian Brueckner dude.
Reading the details it must be a million to 1 shot that it was not Brueckner responsible for the murder.
But can they hang him out to dry with it seems no DNA evidence and no body?
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Post by redstriper on Apr 22, 2022 19:52:15 GMT
I see the police are finally, 15 years too late, homing in on this Christian Brueckner dude. Reading the details it must be a million to 1 shot that it was not Brueckner responsible for the murder. But can they hang him out to dry with it seems no DNA evidence and no body? Would be great if he finally admits it when confronted, and people like the poster above will have to take a hard look at themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 20:36:25 GMT
I see the police are finally, 15 years too late, homing in on this Christian Brueckner dude. Reading the details it must be a million to 1 shot that it was not Brueckner responsible for the murder. But can they hang him out to dry with it seems no DNA evidence and no body? Not sure Gods. He was in the area as his phone records show and has form but no hard evidence at all against him. Didn't he claim in a bar that he knew what happened? Either way what the McCanns did was unforgivable for me. I remember the lad in Bangkok claiming he knew what happened to JonBenet Ramsey and was all pub/boasting talk to friends etc He was arrested, flown back to the USA and turned out made the whole thing up as some of these types do
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Post by Gods on Apr 22, 2022 20:53:45 GMT
I see the police are finally, 15 years too late, homing in on this Christian Brueckner dude. Reading the details it must be a million to 1 shot that it was not Brueckner responsible for the murder. But can they hang him out to dry with it seems no DNA evidence and no body? Not sure Gods. He was in the area as his phone records show and has form but no hard evidence at all against him. Didn't he claim in a bar that he knew what happened? Either way what the McCanns did was unforgivable for me. I remember the lad in Bangkok claiming he knew what happened to JonBenet Ramsey and was all pub/boasting talk to friends etc He was arrested, flown back to the USA and turned out made the whole thing up as some of these types do Dunno, a convicted paedophile and sadistic rapist who was living in a camper van near to the Praia da Luz holiday resort in Portugal when Madeleine disappeared. Mobile phone records from the night of Madeleine's disappearance place him at the holiday resort of Praia da Luz iteslf. He contacted the vehicle licensing authorities back in Germany and re-registered the Jaguar he drove under the name of an acquaintance on the day after the disappearance. That's just a slice of what is public, so you'd imagine they have more, it doesn't look great. At the very least it doesn't take any great leap of faith to see why he might be of interest to put it mildly. Not enough to convict though so I wonder if they have something new now they have named him a suspect? Hang on for the ride.
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 22, 2022 22:42:27 GMT
Not sure Gods. He was in the area as his phone records show and has form but no hard evidence at all against him. Didn't he claim in a bar that he knew what happened? Either way what the McCanns did was unforgivable for me. I remember the lad in Bangkok claiming he knew what happened to JonBenet Ramsey and was all pub/boasting talk to friends etc He was arrested, flown back to the USA and turned out made the whole thing up as some of these types do Dunno, a convicted paedophile and sadistic rapist who was living in a camper van near to the Praia da Luz holiday resort in Portugal when Madeleine disappeared. Mobile phone records from the night of Madeleine's disappearance place him at the holiday resort of Praia da Luz iteslf. He contacted the vehicle licensing authorities back in Germany and re-registered the Jaguar he drove under the name of an acquaintance on the day after the disappearance. That's just a slice of what is public, so you'd imagine they have more, it doesn't look great. At the very least it doesn't take any great leap of faith to see why he might be of interest to put it mildly. Not enough to convict though so I wonder if they have something new now they have named him a suspect? Hang on for the ride. I haven't read the details, but does this infer that Brueckner had targeted Madeleine and that he made an opportunistic move when he could see the parents had left the kids unattended? I don't know... Would a paedo stalk a specific child, in the same way rapists might stalk a specific woman? Unless he was at their location watching, how would he have known the parents weren't around? Surely he wouldn't break into the apartment if he thought the parents were there too.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Apr 23, 2022 8:04:01 GMT
Not sure Gods. He was in the area as his phone records show and has form but no hard evidence at all against him. Didn't he claim in a bar that he knew what happened? Either way what the McCanns did was unforgivable for me. I remember the lad in Bangkok claiming he knew what happened to JonBenet Ramsey and was all pub/boasting talk to friends etc He was arrested, flown back to the USA and turned out made the whole thing up as some of these types do Dunno, a convicted paedophile and sadistic rapist who was living in a camper van near to the Praia da Luz holiday resort in Portugal when Madeleine disappeared. Mobile phone records from the night of Madeleine's disappearance place him at the holiday resort of Praia da Luz iteslf. He contacted the vehicle licensing authorities back in Germany and re-registered the Jaguar he drove under the name of an acquaintance on the day after the disappearance. That's just a slice of what is public, so you'd imagine they have more, it doesn't look great. At the very least it doesn't take any great leap of faith to see why he might be of interest to put it mildly. Not enough to convict though so I wonder if they have something new now they have named him a suspect? Hang on for the ride. Id be amazed if cell site analysis placed him at the holiday resort. It might place him somewhere in the vicinity. Some cells have a radius of 10 miles. It's like saying my phone placed me at the Stoke game later even though I was actually 2 miles away but just connected to the same cell site.
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Post by Gods on Apr 23, 2022 9:05:17 GMT
Dunno, a convicted paedophile and sadistic rapist who was living in a camper van near to the Praia da Luz holiday resort in Portugal when Madeleine disappeared. Mobile phone records from the night of Madeleine's disappearance place him at the holiday resort of Praia da Luz iteslf. He contacted the vehicle licensing authorities back in Germany and re-registered the Jaguar he drove under the name of an acquaintance on the day after the disappearance. That's just a slice of what is public, so you'd imagine they have more, it doesn't look great. At the very least it doesn't take any great leap of faith to see why he might be of interest to put it mildly. Not enough to convict though so I wonder if they have something new now they have named him a suspect? Hang on for the ride. I haven't read the details, but does this infer that Brueckner had targeted Madeleine and that he made an opportunistic move when he could see the parents had left the kids unattended? I don't know... Would a paedo stalk a specific child, in the same way rapists might stalk a specific woman? Unless he was at their location watching, how would he have known the parents weren't around? Surely he wouldn't break into the apartment if he thought the parents were there too. He was known to break into Algarve hotel rooms and apartments to supplement his income from drug dealing so perhaps it was one of his regular raids and it was opportunistic? He is linked to 4 other child murders in fairness. Either way it has to be better than some of the crack pot conspiracy theories you can find without looking too hard, apart from the McCann's themselves I've seen everything from being carried away by a swarm of bees to the Duke of Edinburgh and even Agnetha from ABBA. With Brueckner you have proximity, you have opportunity, and you have a profile with regards to an offender that absolutely fits in a way that no others have. But do they have enough to win in court? I doubt it. The police are desperate to trace 2 phone calls he made on the night of the disappearance I believe.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 24, 2022 8:55:33 GMT
I haven't read the details, but does this infer that Brueckner had targeted Madeleine and that he made an opportunistic move when he could see the parents had left the kids unattended? I don't know... Would a paedo stalk a specific child, in the same way rapists might stalk a specific woman? Unless he was at their location watching, how would he have known the parents weren't around? Surely he wouldn't break into the apartment if he thought the parents were there too. He was known to break into Algarve hotel rooms and apartments to supplement his income from drug dealing so perhaps it was one of his regular raids and it was opportunistic? He is linked to 4 other child murders in fairness. Either way it has to be better than some of the crack pot conspiracy theories you can find without looking too hard, apart from the McCann's themselves I've seen everything from being carried away by a swarm of bees to Duke of Edinburgh and even Agnetha from ABBA. With Brueckner you have proximity, you have opportunity, and you have a profile with regards to an offender that absolutely fits in a way that no others have. But do they have enough to win in court? I doubt it. The police are desperate to trace 2 phone calls he made on the night of the disappearance I believe. Yes, he was always a much more likely candidate once the details of his lifelong offending came to light, plus the fact that he was there and associates have described him talking about doing just such a crime. I suspect the passage of time may make it very difficult to bring about a prosecution. There is, in all cases, a bar to be reached before proceeding and the fact that this has taken so long already since identifying him implies that they aren't there yet. If guilty, I hope he is ultimately convicted in a court and confesses to what he did with the body, not least to bring about some closure to the McCanns (and everybody else, frankly). There have been some shameful trials by press and public opinion, not least on here. Given the way people tend to dig themselves in on social media platforms, I suspect that even in the event of a conviction for Brueckner lots would still be unable to retract previous condemnation or bring themselves to 'forgive' the McCanns for effectively having a child stolen and murdered.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 9:42:02 GMT
He was known to break into Algarve hotel rooms and apartments to supplement his income from drug dealing so perhaps it was one of his regular raids and it was opportunistic? He is linked to 4 other child murders in fairness. Either way it has to be better than some of the crack pot conspiracy theories you can find without looking too hard, apart from the McCann's themselves I've seen everything from being carried away by a swarm of bees to Duke of Edinburgh and even Agnetha from ABBA. With Brueckner you have proximity, you have opportunity, and you have a profile with regards to an offender that absolutely fits in a way that no others have. But do they have enough to win in court? I doubt it. The police are desperate to trace 2 phone calls he made on the night of the disappearance I believe. Yes, he was always a much more likely candidate once the details of his lifelong offending came to light, plus the fact that he was there and associates have described him talking about doing just such a crime. I suspect the passage of time may make it very difficult to bring about a prosecution. There is, in all cases, a bar to be reached before proceeding and the fact that this has taken so long already since identifying him implies that they aren't there yet. If guilty, I hope he is ultimately convicted in a court and confesses to what he did with the body, not least to bring about some closure to the McCanns (and everybody else, frankly). There have been some shameful trials by press and public opinion, not least on here. Given the way people tend to dig themselves in on social media platforms, I suspect that even in the event of a conviction for Brueckner lots would still be unable to retract previous condemnation or bring themselves to 'forgive' the McCanns for effectively having a child stolen and murdered. I think the fact they left a child alone in a foreign country swayed a lot of public dislike towards them. After all, was only 1 victim in this no matter what the outcome is.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 20, 2022 13:42:28 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Sept 20, 2022 13:52:03 GMT
i wonder if we will ever get the full truth of what happened on that holiday i have read some staggering things over the years and the surprise appearance of a known paedophile rapist in the area on the night she went missing is almost too perfect too believe!
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Post by salopstick on May 4, 2023 10:11:26 GMT
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Post by wannabee on May 4, 2023 10:32:22 GMT
Dreadful Parents no matter what your theory is
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Post by knype on May 4, 2023 11:07:50 GMT
Dreadful Parents no matter what your theory is How they've dodged social services or jail time for child neglect at least is criminal in itself
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