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Post by march4 on Oct 7, 2015 18:03:43 GMT
The story is badly worded. A FINAL decision on suspension is to be made tomorrow. Or possibly Friday. This smacks of a committee who are terrified of suspending their own boss.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 7, 2015 18:08:33 GMT
Why can't him and Platini just die.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 7, 2015 20:26:08 GMT
Why can't him and Platini just die.
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Post by skip on Oct 7, 2015 20:27:21 GMT
Why can't him and Platini just die. because I for one would like to see them jailed.
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Post by sutekh on Oct 7, 2015 20:44:35 GMT
Why can't him and Platini just die. because I for one would like to see them jailed. I hope that they both die in jail
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 7, 2015 20:47:56 GMT
Why can't him and Platini just die. because I for one would like to see them jailed. So are the FA still backing Platini? Answers are needed.
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Post by enuntio on Oct 8, 2015 0:52:21 GMT
Hopefully that's Blatter now out and I'd think Platini is hot on his heels. The next step is to dissolve the whole organisation and start again.
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Post by Northy on Oct 8, 2015 7:28:16 GMT
Platini, and his son are entwined in Qatar money and tentacles from afar, they will sink soon, hopefully.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 8, 2015 7:28:47 GMT
I see that the hard hitting FIFA Ethics Committee has recommended that Blatter should serve a 90 day suspension, due to the criminal investigation being held into his activities. Having said that, they don't appear to that convinced about their own decision, and are leaving the final decision to someone else... www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34468663
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 8:35:45 GMT
I see that the hard hitting FIFA Ethics Committee has recommended that Blatter should serve a 90 day suspension, due to the criminal investigation being held into his activities. Having said that, they don't appear to that convinced about their own decision, and are leaving the final decision to someone else... www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34468663where does it state that they're not convinced by their own decision? the reason they are "leaving the final decision to someone else" is because they can't make that decision. they simply investigate and recommend on what they feel should be the appropriate punishment. the decision as to whether or not to implement that punishment isn't theirs to make. i wish people would read articles rather than wrongly presume what they think is the case and then misrepresent the very article they've then linked to
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 8:58:55 GMT
The story is badly worded. A FINAL decision on suspension is to be made tomorrow. Or possibly Friday. This smacks of a committee who are terrified of suspending their own boss. or merely a committee that don't have the power to do anything other than recommend punishments and the actual implementation of the punishment not being their decision to make you mean? all the committee does is investigate, come to a conclusion and pass their findings (along with their recommended punishment) on to the powers that be. they don't have the authority to actually suspend anyone...in the same way that it's not the referees panel that retrospectively ban players, they simply pass their recommendations on to the FA who then implement the suspension or the committee that looks at work permits simply pass their recommendations on to the Home office etc. etc.
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Post by kurt on Oct 8, 2015 9:09:47 GMT
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 8, 2015 9:34:54 GMT
I see that the hard hitting FIFA Ethics Committee has recommended that Blatter should serve a 90 day suspension, due to the criminal investigation being held into his activities. Having said that, they don't appear to that convinced about their own decision, and are leaving the final decision to someone else... www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34468663where does it state that they're not convinced by their own decision? the reason they are "leaving the final decision to someone else" is because they can't make that decision. they simply investigate and recommend on what they feel should be the appropriate punishment. the decision as to whether or not to implement that punishment isn't theirs to make. i wish people would read articles rather than wrongly presume what they think is the case and then misrepresent the very article they've then linked to Fair point Mick, although the article does not make it clear as to whether they do or do not have the power to take disciplinary action in their own right. I bow to your knowledge of the procedures and powers of the FIFA Ethics Committee, I shall also write to the BBC and complain that I read too much into their article. Perhaps my jaundiced view of the FIFA Ethics Committee, affected my usually objective views. I guess I have no reason to believe that the FIFA Ethics Committee is in any way fearful of reproaching any one of FIFA's members, not least the multi-time democratically elected, Sepp Blatter, who strenuously denies any wrong doing, and has not been proven guilty of anything other the doing the best for world football.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 9:58:56 GMT
where does it state that they're not convinced by their own decision? the reason they are "leaving the final decision to someone else" is because they can't make that decision. they simply investigate and recommend on what they feel should be the appropriate punishment. the decision as to whether or not to implement that punishment isn't theirs to make. i wish people would read articles rather than wrongly presume what they think is the case and then misrepresent the very article they've then linked to Fair point Mick, although the article does not make it clear as to whether they do or do not have the power to take disciplinary action in their own right. I bow to your knowledge of the procedures and powers of the FIFA Ethics Committee, I shall also write to the BBC and complain that I read too much into their article. Perhaps my jaundiced view of the FIFA Ethics Committee, affected my usually objective views. I guess I have no reason to believe that the FIFA Ethics Committee is in any way fearful of reproaching any one of FIFA's members, not least the multi-time democratically elected, Sepp Blatter, who strenuously denies any wrong doing, and has not been proven guilty of anything other the doing the best for world football. don't really see the point of that sarky reply to be honest.is it my fault they can't implement punishments? Is it my fault whether or not he's been involved in corruption or rigged voting in the past??? Bizarre really but i suppose just a continuation of your original post i.e. pissed off with blatter and what's happening so you attacking the wrong people for it. what do you expect the committee to do, impose a punishment they have no authority to impose? Yeah,that would show FIFA really following the rules for once wouldn't it? Simple fact is they've recommended a punishment to those who have the power to impose it,the decision is to be made by those people in the next day or so.probably an idea to await that actual decision before slagging them off because you simply presume they won't (bit minority report of you really).if they don't then feel free to slag off those that didn't impose it but that isn't the committee and it sure as fuck isn't me
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Post by Foster on Oct 8, 2015 10:03:08 GMT
Fair point Mick, although the article does not make it clear as to whether they do or do not have the power to take disciplinary action in their own right. I bow to your knowledge of the procedures and powers of the FIFA Ethics Committee, I shall also write to the BBC and complain that I read too much into their article. Perhaps my jaundiced view of the FIFA Ethics Committee, affected my usually objective views. I guess I have no reason to believe that the FIFA Ethics Committee is in any way fearful of reproaching any one of FIFA's members, not least the multi-time democratically elected, Sepp Blatter, who strenuously denies any wrong doing, and has not been proven guilty of anything other the doing the best for world football. don't really see the point of that sarky reply to be honest.is it my fault they can't implement punishments? Is it my fault whether or not he's been involved in corruption or rigged voting in the past??? Bizarre really but i suppose just a continuation of your original post i.e. pissed off with blatter and what's happening so you attacking the wrong people for it. what do you expect the committee to do, impose a punishment they have no authority to impose? Yeah,that would show FIFA really follwoing the rules for once wouldn't it? Clearly Mick, you could do with a 90 day suspension from this board to go and reflect on your unacceptable behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 10:04:39 GMT
don't really see the point of that sarky reply to be honest.is it my fault they can't implement punishments? Is it my fault whether or not he's been involved in corruption or rigged voting in the past??? Bizarre really but i suppose just a continuation of your original post i.e. pissed off with blatter and what's happening so you attacking the wrong people for it. what do you expect the committee to do, impose a punishment they have no authority to impose? Yeah,that would show FIFA really follwoing the rules for once wouldn't it? Clearly Mick, you could do with a 90 day suspension from this board to go and reflect on your unacceptable behaviour. if you recommend that to sal i'm sure she'd be all over it mate
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 8, 2015 10:30:08 GMT
Fair point Mick, although the article does not make it clear as to whether they do or do not have the power to take disciplinary action in their own right. I bow to your knowledge of the procedures and powers of the FIFA Ethics Committee, I shall also write to the BBC and complain that I read too much into their article. Perhaps my jaundiced view of the FIFA Ethics Committee, affected my usually objective views. I guess I have no reason to believe that the FIFA Ethics Committee is in any way fearful of reproaching any one of FIFA's members, not least the multi-time democratically elected, Sepp Blatter, who strenuously denies any wrong doing, and has not been proven guilty of anything other the doing the best for world football. don't really see the point of that sarky reply to be honest.is it my fault they can't implement punishments? Is it my fault whether or not he's been involved in corruption or rigged voting in the past??? Bizarre really but i suppose just a continuation of your original post i.e. pissed off with blatter and what's happening so you attacking the wrong people for it. what do you expect the committee to do, impose a punishment they have no authority to impose? Yeah,that would show FIFA really following the rules for once wouldn't it? Simple fact is they've recommended a punishment to those who have the power to impose it,the decision is to be made by those people in the next day or so.probably an idea to await that actual decision before slagging them off because you simply presume they won't (bit minority report of you really).if they don't then feel free to slag off those that didn't impose it but that isn't the committee and it sure as fuck isn't me I think my sarky response might have something to do with you pronouncing judgement on my comments, (the ) rather than simply pointing out that the committee does not have the power to carry out it's recommended sanctions. That was all that was needed, but you chose to take a pop at my inability to read a story. Strip the sarcasm back, and the points I make, concisely explain my viewpoint about how my comments were formed, and other than the fact that I took umbridge to your attitude, I in no way suggested that you were a FIFA apologist, and fail to see why you would think that I inferred that you were one.
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Post by andrewguk on Oct 8, 2015 10:36:15 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 8, 2015 12:04:17 GMT
Unless he managed to clear his name in the next 90 days or so, you'd have to think that this severely damages Platini's chances of the job. I wonder if Greg Dyke is going to make any comment on whether his preferred candidate is holed below the water line?
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Post by eddyclamp on Oct 8, 2015 12:10:33 GMT
Unless he managed to clear his name in the next 90 days or so, you'd have to think that this severely damages Platini's chances of the job. I wonder if Greg Dyke is going to make any comment on whether his preferred candidate is holed below the water line? Forny , as I have read it , the closing dates to stand for president is later this month and if they are suspended they can't put their names forward. The timing by the ethics committee has to be thought about in the scheme of things.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 8, 2015 12:16:10 GMT
Unless he managed to clear his name in the next 90 days or so, you'd have to think that this severely damages Platini's chances of the job. I wonder if Greg Dyke is going to make any comment on whether his preferred candidate is holed below the water line? Forny , as I have read it , the closing dates to stand for president is later this month and if they are suspended they can't put their names forward. The timing by the ethics committee has to be thought about in the scheme of things. Yes, I'm sure that is how things should happen. Anyone who is suspended from ALL football activities should not be able to nominate themselves (by the closing date of 26th October) until/unless the suspension ends. However, I doubt Platini will see it as being as cut and dried as that and I have no doubt he will already be planning to see if he can circumvent the "problem". And, knowing FIFA's track record, I wouldn't bet against his name finding its way onto the ballot paper.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 8, 2015 13:46:12 GMT
Forny , as I have read it , the closing dates to stand for president is later this month and if they are suspended they can't put their names forward. The timing by the ethics committee has to be thought about in the scheme of things. Yes, I'm sure that is how things should happen. Anyone who is suspended from ALL football activities should not be able to nominate themselves (by the closing date of 26th October) until/unless the suspension ends. However, I doubt Platini will see it as being as cut and dried as that and I have no doubt he will already be planning to see if he can circumvent the "problem". And, knowing FIFA's track record, I wouldn't bet against his name finding its way onto the ballot paper. FA confirm they still support Platini.
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Post by santy on Oct 8, 2015 16:08:22 GMT
Yes, I'm sure that is how things should happen. Anyone who is suspended from ALL football activities should not be able to nominate themselves (by the closing date of 26th October) until/unless the suspension ends. However, I doubt Platini will see it as being as cut and dried as that and I have no doubt he will already be planning to see if he can circumvent the "problem". And, knowing FIFA's track record, I wouldn't bet against his name finding its way onto the ballot paper. FA confirm they still support Platini. Sounds at this point like our FA is more trying to make sure we're in the good books of the next corrupt leader of FIFA instead of it all being done properly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 17:18:43 GMT
Whatever the outcome of the suspensions FIFA is done, finished, kaput. The whole sordid corrupt organisation should be abolished and a new governing body with me as the new Chairman set up, any seconds ? Vice chairman's job to the first person to second my nomination :-)
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 8, 2015 17:24:47 GMT
Yes, I'm sure that is how things should happen. Anyone who is suspended from ALL football activities should not be able to nominate themselves (by the closing date of 26th October) until/unless the suspension ends. However, I doubt Platini will see it as being as cut and dried as that and I have no doubt he will already be planning to see if he can circumvent the "problem". And, knowing FIFA's track record, I wouldn't bet against his name finding its way onto the ballot paper. FA confirm they still support Platini. Sky reporting UEFA are sticking by their Leader. It's great to see such loyalty! UEFA defy FIFA ban! www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/sepp-blatter/11918681/Sepp-Blatter-and-Michel-Platini-suspended-by-Fifa.html
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 8, 2015 20:36:23 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 8, 2015 23:40:34 GMT
FA confirm they still support Platini. Sounds at this point like our FA is more trying to make sure we're in the good books of the next corrupt leader of FIFA instead of it all being done properly. Yes it does. Good point.
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Post by enuntio on Oct 9, 2015 8:42:01 GMT
Assuming FIFA survives
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Post by enuntio on Oct 9, 2015 8:42:22 GMT
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Post by enuntio on Oct 9, 2015 12:27:00 GMT
According to the BBC Blatter is appealing his suspension, the man knows no shame, he is forlornly clutching at straws. He signed millions of £'s away in a TV giveaway. He orchestrated an unplayable summer World Cup, but his worst crime is doing all he could to scupper England's plans to be hosts. Is it still legal to burn witches in Switzerland? Blatter appeals
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