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Post by basingstokie on Jul 2, 2015 12:17:48 GMT
Will Blatter go the final? Absolutely not. As a Swiss national he can't be deported to USA to face charges, but once he leaves the land of mountains, watches and stolen Jewish artifacts then he is fair game for FBI. Looks like I was right |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jul 2, 2015 15:43:54 GMT
Some sloppy journalism in that piece. It says 65m euro is £24.5m, when it's actually more like £44.5m. Reading that, it seems the legal basis for the challenge to switching the date of the world cup is financial. ie it will cost the clubs revenue. So if Fifa lose, all it will mean is they hand some cash over to the Spanish league Sky are pouring billions into the Premier league, the money they've had to fork out for the broadcasting rights is in another stratosphere. Of course they pay for those rights because they can make even more money selling broadcasting space to advertisers right around the world. Why should Sky, when they pay all this money, have their investment massively diluted in the prime advertising period in the two month run up to Christmas? What happens if they turn round and tell the Premiership that if they're going to suspend the competition that year then they will massively reduce what they're prepared to pay for the rights? And this is just for the UK of course. Sky could lose a shit load of money? Maybe that Qatar winter World Cup isn't such a bad idea after all  |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 5, 2015 1:44:47 GMT
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 5, 2015 7:20:16 GMT
Why was qatar even considered as a viable bidder to begin with ? . The dangers of extremely hot weather was known from the outset .The corruption around the award of the tournament to Qatar started way before any vote took place
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2015 7:23:19 GMT
I thought this article was interesting. No credit to Blatter in his "I'm not going down alone" approach, but the notion that industrial concerns (such as German construction companies) were pressurising the German football authorities to abandon football principles in their vote seems credible. And good that it gets exposed. In this case though, the old adage about not shooting the messenger does not apply. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2015 7:25:20 GMT
Why was qatar even considered as a viable bidder to begin with ? . The dangers of extremely hot weather was known from the outset .The corruption around the award of the tournament to Qatar started way before any vote took place It would appear it is because there were lots of high value building contracts to be awarded that helped Qatar win. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 5, 2015 7:27:58 GMT
I thought this article was interesting. No credit to Blatter in his "I'm not going down alone" approach, but the notion that industrial concerns (such as German construction companies) were pressurising the German football authorities to abandon football principles in their vote seems credible. And good that it gets exposed. In this case though, the old adage about not shooting the messenger does not apply. No it doesn't. Because he as head of the organisation. If it was going on why didn't he stop it? And if he didn't know he's simply incompetent. But he did know and chose to do nothing. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2015 7:38:27 GMT
I thought this article was interesting. No credit to Blatter in his "I'm not going down alone" approach, but the notion that industrial concerns (such as German construction companies) were pressurising the German football authorities to abandon football principles in their vote seems credible. And good that it gets exposed. In this case though, the old adage about not shooting the messenger does not apply. No it doesn't. Because he as head of the organisation. If it was going on why didn't he stop it? And if he didn't know he's simply incompetent. But he did know and chose to do nothing. Like I said, no credit to Blatter for this exposé. But, here's something for us in Europe to consider. We've been all sanctimonious about corruption in the "developing" world as the likes of Jack Warner crudely pocket wads of FIFA dollars, but it would appear Europe's no better. Our corruption is just less obvious. It's done through industry. But it's there all the same. Self interest not football interest determines decisions in FIFA. (Echoes of Greece, Germany and the "big business" Euro vs the "people"). Let's get all the dirty laundry washed. |
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 5, 2015 7:40:18 GMT
Why was qatar even considered as a viable bidder to begin with ? . The dangers of extremely hot weather was known from the outset .The corruption around the award of the tournament to Qatar started way before any vote took place It would appear it is because there were lots of high value building contracts to be awarded that helped Qatar win. Blatter could and should have vetoed the Qatar bid before it got on the list of bidders |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 5, 2015 7:44:50 GMT
No it doesn't. Because he as head of the organisation. If it was going on why didn't he stop it? And if he didn't know he's simply incompetent. But he did know and chose to do nothing. Like I said, no credit to Blatter for this exposé. But, here's something for us in Europe to consider. We've been all sanctimonious about corruption in the "developing" world as the likes of Jack Warner crudely pocket wads of FIFA dollars, but it would appear Europe's no better. Our corruption is just less obvious. It's done through industry. But it's there all the same. Self interest not football interest determines decisions in FIFA. (Echoes of Greece, Germany and the "big business" Euro vs the "people"). Let's get all the dirty laundry washed. football generates billions. It's almost inevitable corruption and self interest and plain greed will play a part. The difference now is the World Cup has started to die because of it. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 5, 2015 7:46:26 GMT
It would appear it is because there were lots of high value building contracts to be awarded that helped Qatar win. Blatter could and should have vetoed the Qatar bid before it got on the list of bidders Yes exactly right. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2015 7:47:09 GMT
It would appear it is because there were lots of high value building contracts to be awarded that helped Qatar win. Blatter could and should have vetoed the Qatar bid before it got on the list of bidders Don't agree with this. Why shouldn't Qatar bid? Blatter's culpability is sitting on top of a network of corruption. Whoever would have won would have won based on what they "paid". Qatar stands out because it is the most absurd. Anyone think the Russia bid was clean. Or the South Africa one. Or Brazil's clean run. The whole lot stinks. And that is Blatter's responsibility. Frankly FIFA should be shut down and we start again.. But the rot is endemic in football. So hard to see anything much changing. |
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 5, 2015 7:58:20 GMT
Blatter could and should have vetoed the Qatar bid before it got on the list of bidders Don't agree with this. Why shouldn't Qatar bid? Blatter's culpability is sitting on top of a network of corruption. Whoever would have won would have won based on what they "paid". Qatar stands out because it is the most absurd. Anyone think the Russia bid was clean. Or the South Africa one. Or Brazil's clean run. The whole lot stinks. And that is Blatter's responsibility. Frankly FIFA should be shut down and we start again.. But the rot is endemic in football. So hard to see anything much changing. The 50* temperatures during their summer are a very real danger to the players , people die in those conditions . Qatar had every right to bid of course |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 5, 2015 8:05:54 GMT
Don't agree with this. Why shouldn't Qatar bid? Blatter's culpability is sitting on top of a network of corruption. Whoever would have won would have won based on what they "paid". Qatar stands out because it is the most absurd. Anyone think the Russia bid was clean. Or the South Africa one. Or Brazil's clean run. The whole lot stinks. And that is Blatter's responsibility. Frankly FIFA should be shut down and we start again.. But the rot is endemic in football. So hard to see anything much changing. The 50* temperatures during their summer are a very real danger to the players , people die in those conditions . Qatar had every right to bid of course They had the right to bid and Twatter had the right to veto it and I'll bet he wishes he did do. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2015 8:09:55 GMT
Don't agree with this. Why shouldn't Qatar bid? Blatter's culpability is sitting on top of a network of corruption. Whoever would have won would have won based on what they "paid". Qatar stands out because it is the most absurd. Anyone think the Russia bid was clean. Or the South Africa one. Or Brazil's clean run. The whole lot stinks. And that is Blatter's responsibility. Frankly FIFA should be shut down and we start again.. But the rot is endemic in football. So hard to see anything much changing. The 50* temperatures during their summer are a very real danger to the players , people die in those conditions . Qatar had every right to bid of course Yeah - the bid was absurd. But once the bid was made, it had to go through "due" process. Blatter could not have vetoed Qatar without going outside of that process. The problem is "the process". And it's faults have become obvious with the Qatar decision. What Blatter is trying to do now is protect himself. Partly by showing the corruption also involves the sanctimonious West, but also in muddying the waters. Do you think he's a fan of Animal House... |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 6, 2015 16:37:26 GMT
Harold Mayne-Nicholls, 54, had been suspended by its ethics committeeA Fifa official who assessed the bids for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups has been banned from all football-related activity for seven years.
Mayne-Nicholls had spoken of conversations with officials from Qatar's bid about possible work placements for his relatives at the country's Aspire youth academy.
In his 2010 report to Fifa, he expressed serious concerns about conditions in the Gulf state, where summer temperatures can reach 50C
He was one of several senior officials to call for an independent report into the award process to be published in full.
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Post by debabelizer on Jul 11, 2015 8:04:11 GMT
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 11, 2015 8:19:30 GMT
As the old saying goes money talks bullshit walks |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 11, 2015 10:46:19 GMT
Watching a video of the 1982 World cup. Noticably the word FIFA is nowhere to be seen. No kids holding it on a banner before games. No anti racism statements as if they are the custodians of all that is pure. No advertising hoardings around the pitch with it on in case we forgot who the administrators were. Havelange was the boss at the time and it was around 1982 he carried out one of his filthiest acts with the Mexico debacle BUT during tournaments the focus was the football. This whoring of FIFA has even led to Blatter being introduced to players before games like the guest of honour at an FA Cup final.
Their public humiliation is so complete and so amusing you could almost feel sorry for them. But only almost.
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Post by Northy on Jul 19, 2015 22:19:59 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 20, 2015 0:35:08 GMT
Blatter says he's going the World Cup draw in Russia to meet with Putin. And that in itself speaks volumes. This lot are beyond parody.
I wouldn't half explode with laughter if he was arrested when the plane lands!
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Post by enuntio on Jul 20, 2015 3:01:44 GMT
Blatter should be silenced, his further meddling in football is just not welcome. How long is it going to take to trawl through 9 Terra Bytes of data? Auntie says |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 20, 2015 23:28:25 GMT
comedian name Bodkin has thrown wads of money , fake I think, at Blatter tonight at a meeting
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 20, 2015 23:58:03 GMT
Blatter says he's going the World Cup draw in Russia to meet with Putin. And that in itself speaks volumes. This lot are beyond parody. I wouldn't half explode with laughter if he was arrested when the plane lands! That's the only reason he's going to Russia as he knows Putin won't allow the FBI to set foot there |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 22, 2015 13:34:36 GMT
And still he clings on.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 23, 2015 5:19:29 GMT
The official documents from the United States government requesting the extradition of former FIFA Vice President Jack Warner have been received by Trinidad and Tobago's Attorney General Garvin Nicholas. What happens next in this is largely up to Nicholas. Warner might have tried to nobble him. Perhaps Garvin has the decency to see how damaging Warner is and will support extradition.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 15:19:22 GMT
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Post by enuntio on Jul 25, 2015 17:48:30 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 25, 2015 21:30:47 GMT
Twathead finally appeared in another country. Let's hope next time it's under extradition orders. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 25, 2015 22:00:51 GMT
Is there any way to get on without FIFA? They're talking about Platini now. If you thought that Blatter was bad, Platini would be something else altogether. Whatever happens, it'll be a disaster.
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