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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 28, 2015 11:21:00 GMT
He will win a new election. So he ain't going nowhere. Even Blatter won't try and cling on , whatever else he is he's not stupid He will desperately try cling on. If he didn't want to stay he would be gone by now. |
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Post by basingstokie on Jun 28, 2015 13:21:55 GMT
Absolutely not. As a Swiss national he can't be deported to USA to face charges, but once he leaves the land of mountains, watches and stolen Jewish artifacts then he is fair game for FBI. So has he been stranded in Switzerland for the last month? Basically yes. It's not exactly Syria though is it. If he leaves Switzerland then the USA can request extradition from whichever country he goes too. Swiss laws do not allow forcible deportion of their nationals. Sepp cannot be so stupid that he doesn't know this. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 28, 2015 21:23:23 GMT
So has he been stranded in Switzerland for the last month? Basically yes. It's not exactly Syria though is it. If he leaves Switzerland then the USA can request extradition from whichever country he goes too. Swiss laws do not allow forcible deportion of their nationals. Sepp cannot be so stupid that he doesn't know this. How can you possibly do that job if you are stuck in one country? |
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 29, 2015 1:20:29 GMT
Basically yes. It's not exactly Syria though is it. If he leaves Switzerland then the USA can request extradition from whichever country he goes too. Swiss laws do not allow forcible deportion of their nationals. Sepp cannot be so stupid that he doesn't know this. How can you possibly do that job if you are stuck in one country? He can't , this is why he will go |
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Post by mailman44 on Jun 29, 2015 1:30:13 GMT
When this crook gets served he better not do his time in some posh prison cell.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 2:21:24 GMT
How can you possibly do that job if you are stuck in one country? He can't , this is why he will go I am not so optimistic. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 11:39:43 GMT
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Post by basingstokie on Jun 29, 2015 12:05:27 GMT
Basically yes. It's not exactly Syria though is it. If he leaves Switzerland then the USA can request extradition from whichever country he goes too. Swiss laws do not allow forcible deportion of their nationals. Sepp cannot be so stupid that he doesn't know this. How can you possibly do that job if you are stuck in one country? Sepp has never seen his capability to do the job (or lack of it) to be a barrier! All he has to do is continue 'supporting' football in the poorer African, South American and Asian countries and they'll keep voting for him By 'supporting' I mean awarding grossly inflated contracts to provide football pitches to companies which are owned by the FIFA Country Rep or their cohorts (allegedly of course) |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 12:07:56 GMT
How can you possibly do that job if you are stuck in one country? Sepp has never seen his capability to do the job (or lack of it) to be a barrier! All he has to do is continue 'supporting' football in the poorer African, South American and Asian countries and they'll keep voting for him By 'supporting' I mean awarding grossly inflated contracts to provide football pitches to companies which are owned by the FIFA Country Rep or their cohorts (allegedly of course) So if he can limp along to December and play the politics well (like he usually does) and gets to be a candidate he will trust African support and get back in? |
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Post by enuntio on Jun 29, 2015 12:19:37 GMT
Sepp has never seen his capability to do the job (or lack of it) to be a barrier! All he has to do is continue 'supporting' football in the poorer African, South American and Asian countries and they'll keep voting for him By 'supporting' I mean awarding grossly inflated contracts to provide football pitches to companies which are owned by the FIFA Country Rep or their cohorts (allegedly of course) So if he can limp along to December and play the politics well (like he usually does) and gets to be a candidate he will trust African support and get back in? If that happens then there won't be a FIFA as we know it anymore. There will be resignations and a breakaway organisation to oversee cup competitions |
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 29, 2015 12:22:50 GMT
Ultimately FIFAs sponsors will have the final say , if he doesn't just go they will jump ship .
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 12:23:45 GMT
So if he can limp along to December and play the politics well (like he usually does) and gets to be a candidate he will trust African support and get back in? If that happens then there won't be a FIFA as we know it anymore. There will be resignations and a breakaway organisation to oversee cup competitions I remain unconvinced on the breakaway possibility. For substantial change the biggest thing is for strategic legal action challenging Qatar's hosting rights for 2022. From that point THIEFA would be forced into reform and the current regime replaced. Qatar is the topping point. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 12:27:30 GMT
Ultimately FIFAs sponsors will have the final say , if he doesn't just go they will jump ship . That will be a huge factor. Use social media to pressurise them. Tweet to coca cola, go on budweiser's wankbook page and tell them you dislike their support of theifa and will boycott their products until it is withdrawn. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 29, 2015 12:34:36 GMT
Yeah you would presume that collective action would create a far stronger hand. I wonder why Scudamore isn't all over this? |
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 29, 2015 12:38:56 GMT
If that happens then there won't be a FIFA as we know it anymore. There will be resignations and a breakaway organisation to oversee cup competitions I remain unconvinced on the breakaway possibility. For substantial change the biggest thing is for strategic legal action challenging Qatar's hosting rights for 2022. From that point THIEFA would be forced into reform and the current regime replaced. Qatar is the topping point. Under which legal jurisdiction would such a challenge be made? On what basis? It's a long stretch from us in the UK or US or Oz pointing to the obvious corruption involved, to a credible legal challenge that would affect a lot of globally powerful organisations with billions at stake. Blatter will not willingly go while he has breath in his body. The African and Asian blocs which have kept him in power operate in a corrupt world and still support him. The global corporations which provide the commercial & sponsorship funds don't look like they're pulling out, despite a few grumblings about "reviewing our position" when this all first blew up. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 12:40:01 GMT
Yeah you would presume that collective action would create a far stronger hand. I wonder why Scudamore isn't all over this? Spain voted for Qatar but can point out the winter timing wasn't part of the bid they voted for. Scudamore? I think the FA are startled by it all. |
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 29, 2015 12:44:00 GMT
Ultimately FIFAs sponsors will have the final say , if he doesn't just go they will jump ship . I'm not convinced they will. |
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 29, 2015 12:52:48 GMT
Yeah you would presume that collective action would create a far stronger hand. I wonder why Scudamore isn't all over this? Some sloppy journalism in that piece. It says 65m euro is £24.5m, when it's actually more like £44.5m. Reading that, it seems the legal basis for the challenge to switching the date of the world cup is financial. ie it will cost the clubs revenue. So if Fifa lose, all it will mean is they hand some cash over to the Spanish league |
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Post by enuntio on Jun 29, 2015 13:44:15 GMT
English Football, European Football, South American Football... These places would survive without African and Asian Football.
Why should the likes of Gibralter, Andora, Lichtenstein and where ever else that has a Park Pitch be allowed to outvote the bigger and more organised footballing countries.
FIFA has been mismanaged and its time to sack the management.
I think it was Paul that commented on the fact that future TV rights to a world cup been given to a U.S. broadcaster without so much as a bid from any others. This is not a democracy, this is football.
If Blatter is playing a waiting game then take the wait to him. The sooner he's gone, the sooner a new fifa can be formed.
If The FA resigned from FIFA would any of us be that bothered about missing out on Russian and Qatari world cups?
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 14:13:00 GMT
English Football, European Football, South American Football... These places would survive without African and Asian Football. Why should the likes of Gibralter, Andora, Lichtenstein and where ever else that has a Park Pitch be allowed to outvote the bigger and more organised footballing countries. FIFA has been mismanaged and its time to sack the management. I think it was Paul that commented on the fact that future TV rights to a world cup been given to a U.S. broadcaster without so much as a bid from any others. This is not a democracy, this is football. If Blatter is playing a waiting game then take the wait to him. The sooner he's gone, the sooner a new fifa can be formed. If The FA resigned from FIFA would any of us be that bothered about missing out on Russian and Qatari world cups? The FA resigning alone would be a laughing stock doing more harm than good. Action must be collective. UEFA nations will not withdraw from a UEFA HOsted tournament. 2022 is a different kettle of pork altogether. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 29, 2015 15:26:26 GMT
Yeah you would presume that collective action would create a far stronger hand. I wonder why Scudamore isn't all over this? Some sloppy journalism in that piece. It says 65m euro is £24.5m, when it's actually more like £44.5m. Reading that, it seems the legal basis for the challenge to switching the date of the world cup is financial. ie it will cost the clubs revenue. So if Fifa lose, all it will mean is they hand some cash over to the Spanish league Sky are pouring billions into the Premier league, the money they've had to fork out for the broadcasting rights is in another stratosphere. Of course they pay for those rights because they can make even more money selling broadcasting space to advertisers right around the world. Why should Sky, when they pay all this money, have their investment massively diluted in the prime advertising period in the two month run up to Christmas? What happens if they turn round and tell the Premiership that if they're going to suspend the competition that year then they will massively reduce what they're prepared to pay for the rights? And this is just for the UK of course. |
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 29, 2015 17:08:58 GMT
Some sloppy journalism in that piece. It says 65m euro is £24.5m, when it's actually more like £44.5m. Reading that, it seems the legal basis for the challenge to switching the date of the world cup is financial. ie it will cost the clubs revenue. So if Fifa lose, all it will mean is they hand some cash over to the Spanish league Sky are pouring billions into the Premier league, the money they've had to fork out for the broadcasting rights is in another stratosphere. Of course they pay for those rights because they can make even more money selling broadcasting space to advertisers right around the world. Why should Sky, when they pay all this money, have their investment massively diluted in the prime advertising period in the two month run up to Christmas? What happens if they turn round and tell the Premiership that if they're going to suspend the competition that year then they will massively reduce what they're prepared to pay for the rights? And this is just for the UK of course. It's a tangled web. Sky have a contract with the PL to show a certain number of games. If those games were played in May/June instead of Nov/Dec, they could still presumably show them. If they could prove the shift had cost them revenue, then I guess they'd have to sue the PL in UK courts for compensation. The PL would then have to go to the court for arbitration in sport and seek redress from FIFA, as the Spanish league is doing. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 29, 2015 17:23:30 GMT
Sky are pouring billions into the Premier league, the money they've had to fork out for the broadcasting rights is in another stratosphere. Of course they pay for those rights because they can make even more money selling broadcasting space to advertisers right around the world. Why should Sky, when they pay all this money, have their investment massively diluted in the prime advertising period in the two month run up to Christmas? What happens if they turn round and tell the Premiership that if they're going to suspend the competition that year then they will massively reduce what they're prepared to pay for the rights? And this is just for the UK of course. It's a tangled web. Sky have a contract with the PL to show a certain number of games. If those games were played in May/June instead of Nov/Dec, they could still presumably show them. If they could prove the shift had cost them revenue, then I guess they'd have to sue the PL in UK courts for compensation. The PL would then have to go to the court for arbitration in sport and seek redress from FIFA, as the Spanish league is doing. The contract for 2022 between the Prem and Sky hasn't even been done yet, ergo Sky can use the shift as a stick to beat the Prem with during the negotiations. And of course there will be similar broadcaster issues all over the world. FIFA it would appear haven't considered this for even a nano second. |
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Post by enuntio on Jun 29, 2015 19:38:21 GMT
English Football, European Football, South American Football... These places would survive without African and Asian Football. Why should the likes of Gibralter, Andora, Lichtenstein and where ever else that has a Park Pitch be allowed to outvote the bigger and more organised footballing countries. FIFA has been mismanaged and its time to sack the management. I think it was Paul that commented on the fact that future TV rights to a world cup been given to a U.S. broadcaster without so much as a bid from any others. This is not a democracy, this is football. If Blatter is playing a waiting game then take the wait to him. The sooner he's gone, the sooner a new fifa can be formed. If The FA resigned from FIFA would any of us be that bothered about missing out on Russian and Qatari world cups? The FA resigning alone would be a laughing stock doing more harm than good. Action must be collective. UEFA nations will not withdraw from a UEFA HOsted tournament. 2022 is a different kettle of pork altogether. It will not be The F.A. that become a laughing stock. It is FIFA that are a laughing stock. As someone has to start the ball rolling I see no reason as to why it shouldn't be The F.A. or even just the English Premier League, |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 29, 2015 20:36:50 GMT
The FA resigning alone would be a laughing stock doing more harm than good. Action must be collective. UEFA nations will not withdraw from a UEFA HOsted tournament. 2022 is a different kettle of pork altogether. It will not be The F.A. that become a laughing stock. It is FIFA that are a laughing stock. As someone has to start the ball rolling I see no reason as to why it shouldn't be The F.A. or even just the English Premier League, Because the FA fail miserably when it comes to international relations. England still has a reputation for supercilious view of itself and English football. Acting alone will only isolate us further. The other aspect is the notion a World Cup wouldn't be as good without us. If it was Germany Brazil or Argentina maybe but England? No. |
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Post by enuntio on Jun 29, 2015 22:19:55 GMT
It will not be The F.A. that become a laughing stock. It is FIFA that are a laughing stock. As someone has to start the ball rolling I see no reason as to why it shouldn't be The F.A. or even just the English Premier League, Because the FA fail miserably when it comes to international relations. England still has a reputation for supercilious view of itself and English football. Acting alone will only isolate us further. The other aspect is the notion a World Cup wouldn't be as good without us. If it was Germany Brazil or Argentina maybe but England? No. It's just as well we're thick skinned. FIFA don't need The F.A The F.A. don't need Fifa in its current form one iota /me wonders why so many teams like to play against England |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 6:17:44 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 1, 2015 7:44:00 GMT
That is incredible. Gutless clown. |
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Post by Northy on Jul 1, 2015 8:53:30 GMT
That is incredible. Gutless clown. Yep, It's obvious that he fears arrest if he leaves Switzerland, obviously been up to something if he was innocent he would have no problems with going to Canada |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 2, 2015 10:46:40 GMT
Fifa arrests: US asks Switzerland to extradite officialsThe United States has asked Switzerland to extradite seven Fifa officials arrested on corruption charges in May, the Swiss authorities say. Formal extradition requests were submitted on Wednesday, the Swiss Federal Office of Justice (FOJ) said.No wonder Septic Bladder is hunkered down.
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