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Post by Northy on Jun 4, 2015 7:31:27 GMT
Failing that...The man with integrity, honesty and dedication to the cause, and he is out of work....Tony Blair. I'm surprised the lying cunt has not applied already. "Wanted" Dictatorial type leader who is easily corrupted and wants to earn a fortune for doing fuck all , other than handing out, and receiving, brown envelopes. Go on Tony....You know it makes sense.  As Margery Kempe said in her book back in the 1400's - hit the nail on the head |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 4, 2015 10:56:49 GMT
Just thinking, does anyone thing Qatar might have involved bribery?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 18:58:27 GMT
Just thinking, does anyone thing Qatar might have involved bribery?  |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 4, 2015 20:00:45 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 4, 2015 20:05:26 GMT
Already a thread Paul - too late!  |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 4, 2015 20:09:12 GMT
Already a thread Paul - too late! It needs merging into this one then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:13:09 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 4, 2015 20:51:32 GMT
So in a round-a-bout way does that come across as FIFA paid Ireland to let France qualify? The same France who've been rumbled as having bribes involved in their 98 World Cup bid? The same France who went against UEFA members & voted for Blatter? The same France whose best ever player is UEFA president? The same 'best ever French player' whose son is all involved with contracts & shit to do with PSG & Qatar? The same Qatar who have no History of football, no infastructure to support a world cup, unplayable conditions at world cup time... But they do have a lot of money... And they've been awarded the world cup in 2022? Yeah all sounds above board to me, nothing to see here, move along please. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 4, 2015 20:57:44 GMT
Ireland they were lucky they got anything because they would have been laughed out of court because it was just a sporting incident.
FIFA looked like they wanted to nip that in the bud out of court, it's no different to how any other big company would deal with something they wanted sweeping away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 21:03:58 GMT
Football is fucked. Corrupt top to bottom, the FA are no better.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 4, 2015 21:15:20 GMT
With Blazer and Warner squealing like pigs I seriously wonder when the first assassination will happen?
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Post by algor on Jun 4, 2015 21:21:12 GMT
Ireland they were lucky they got anything because they would have been laughed out of court because it was just a sporting incident. FIFA looked like they wanted to nip that in the bud out of court, it's no different to how any other big company would deal with something they wanted sweeping away. This, do we really want every handball, dodgy pen or corner subject to a court hearing? If so then we can expect to know if we finished 7th or 20th in the 2015/2016 season some time during 2017/2018! |
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 4, 2015 21:29:47 GMT
It's reaching the stage where the only sensible option is to start again. Blatter is supposedly instigating reforms, a strange way to describe shredding documents! Leaving him and others in office merely serves to allow them to cover up anything not already seized. The individual FAs are in place can't see why it takes until December,to call a meeting of them, to replace the executive committee with an interim committee. The new structure also has to reflect the relative size of the its member organizations.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 4, 2015 22:26:13 GMT
Ireland they were lucky they got anything because they would have been laughed out of court because it was just a sporting incident. FIFA looked like they wanted to nip that in the bud out of court, it's no different to how any other big company would deal with something they wanted sweeping away. FIFA are dicks. If Henry's handball was given it would mean a penno shootout. What is guaranteed tbere? And they paid 5m to avoid legal action. Idiocy. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 4, 2015 22:28:52 GMT
Ireland they were lucky they got anything because they would have been laughed out of court because it was just a sporting incident. FIFA looked like they wanted to nip that in the bud out of court, it's no different to how any other big company would deal with something they wanted sweeping away. FIFA are dicks. If Henry's handball was given it would mean a penno shootout. What is guaranteed tbere? And they paid 5m to avoid legal action. Idiocy. They wanted to stop any chance of a court case which is what the Irish were angling for, which is fair enough. Court takes time, time they didn't want being taken up by some bunch of idiots. |
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 4, 2015 23:43:42 GMT
Ireland they were lucky they got anything because they would have been laughed out of court because it was just a sporting incident. FIFA looked like they wanted to nip that in the bud out of court, it's no different to how any other big company would deal with something they wanted sweeping away. Maybe not laughed out of court if the match officials had been influenced by FIFA? How can that be ruled out? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 5, 2015 6:47:23 GMT
Football is fucked. Corrupt top to bottom, the FA are no better. I disagree with that. The FA might be incompetent in some respects but corruption on the Fifa scale isn't a feasible suggestion. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 5, 2015 6:51:35 GMT
With Blazer and Warner squealing like pigs I seriously wonder when the first assassination will happen? Or someone taking their own life - god forbid..... Its a distinct possibility |
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Post by greenhoff74 on Jun 5, 2015 7:52:29 GMT
Ireland involved in the corruption this morning, took hush money from Sepp Blatter to rebuild their stadium for keeping quiet about the double Thiery Henry handball incident that robbed them of a WC finals place at the expense of France.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 5, 2015 9:35:34 GMT
That Ireland / handball is something of a distraction. It isnt strictly corruption IMO just symptomatic of a culture inside FIFA of using money to oil the wheels. Now, this is more like it; Fifa crisis: Letter 'shows path of South Africa's $10m' which starts... Bent as a fiddlers elbow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 10:39:30 GMT
Ireland they were lucky they got anything because they would have been laughed out of court because it was just a sporting incident. FIFA looked like they wanted to nip that in the bud out of court, it's no different to how any other big company would deal with something they wanted sweeping away. Maybe not laughed out of court if the match officials had been influenced by FIFA? How can that be ruled out? it can't but it certainly hasn't been implied by anyone either! i think that as these stories come out it's best to look at the facts we've been given rather than presume things that may have happened that we've seen absolutely no evidence of whatsoever! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 10:42:41 GMT
Ireland involved in the corruption this morning, took hush money from Sepp Blatter to rebuild their stadium for keeping quiet about the double Thiery Henry handball incident that robbed them of a WC finals place at the expense of France. it wasn't "Hush money" though was it??? That's when you pay someone to keep quiet about something and not make it public.FIFA simply offered a settlement to stop legal action which had been stated very vocally Ireland were considering. the only reason it was "Hushed up" is because the FAI knew they'd get shit from their own fans for accepting it and moving on i.e. it's the FAI that hushed things up for their own PR purposes, that's nothing to do with FIFA though. the FAI should be being criticised far far more heavily for this for not making it transparent to their own loyal fans at the time. there's nothing whatsoever to suggest that FIFA included any clause to the settlement that forced this payment to remain confidential and secret from the Irish fans, that was a conscious decision made by the FAI themselves to stop themselves from being slaughtered! |
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 5, 2015 11:02:49 GMT
Ireland involved in the corruption this morning, took hush money from Sepp Blatter to rebuild their stadium for keeping quiet about the double Thiery Henry handball incident that robbed them of a WC finals place at the expense of France. it wasn't "Hush money" though was it??? That's when you pay someone to keep quiet about something and not make it public.FIFA simply offered a settlement to stop legal action which had been stated very vocally Ireland were considering. the only reason it was "Hushed up" is because the FAI knew they'd get shit from their own fans for accepting it and moving on i.e. it's the FAI that hushed things up for their own PR purposes, that's nothing to do with FIFA though. the FAI should be being criticised far far more heavily for this for not making it transparent to their own loyal fans at the time. there's nothing whatsoever to suggest that FIFA included any clause to the settlement that forced this payment to remain confidential and secret from the Irish fans, that was a conscious decision made by the FAI themselves to stop themselves from being slaughtered! The Irish police should investigate this and determine exactly how much money the FAI received from FIFA and what exactly happened to it. The suspicion is that while money would have been used for good purpose (in this case the construction of the new national stadium), part of it will have been trousered by officials. This is certainly what is happening in those African and Asian countries whose officials have so much faith in Blatter. They point to the projects they've funded as evidence of FIFA's good work, but they don't (obviously) talk about how they've personally enriched themselves by embezzling a portion of the money for themselves. A pound for you, a pound for me... |
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 5, 2015 13:35:35 GMT
Football is fucked. Corrupt top to bottom, the FA are no better. I disagree with that. The FA might be incompetent in some respects but corruption on the Fifa scale isn't a feasible suggestion. I suppose Greg Dyke did give his collection of 16 grand gold watches back............eventually!!! After it was exposed by the media of course! |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Jun 5, 2015 15:04:23 GMT
May have already been discussed , but to put a World Cup bid together costs a lot of tax payers money now it's official about vote rigging the FA must be able to claw the costs back from FIFA ?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 5, 2015 15:39:07 GMT
Football is fucked. Corrupt top to bottom, the FA are no better. I disagree with that. The FA might be incompetent in some respects but corruption on the Fifa scale isn't a feasible suggestion. I agree that they are not as bad as FIFA, but they didn't do themselves much good when they tried to discredit the Panorama programme on FIFA corruption on the eve of the vote. Their view appears to be - corruption should be condemned when there is nothing to lose, but hushed up if there is a deal on the line. I known no organisation is perfect, but this hardly makes them the bastions of change they'd like to think they are. This is of course dealing with the upper echelons of both organisations - as usual with issues like this I'm sure there's thousands of workers lower down the organisation that are decent, hard-working people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 1:54:38 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 6, 2015 2:08:19 GMT
2006 was the one when NZ delegate Jack Dempsey abstained at the last minute because of the pressure being put on him. His abstention handed it to Germany. Blatter was seething as he was desperate for South Africa to host. He didn't always get his own way on who hosted. He did briefly make the daft policy of rotating it round the continents. It didn't last long. Just long enough to ensure South Africa hosted. Brazil were unchallenged. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 6, 2015 11:39:32 GMT
I think one thing that needs to be brought in, regardless of the fallout from the current arrests, is a strict limit on how much can be spent on a World Cup bid. For figures to be running into tens of millions for failed World Cup bids (not including money spent oiling wheels etc) is absolutely obscene.
I'd do the same with political campaigns as well. Election period starts and then there's a strict maximum cap on what you can spend.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 6, 2015 11:42:25 GMT
Will any of them be at the European Cup final?
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