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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 0:28:44 GMT
Failing that...The man with integrity, honesty and dedication to the cause, and he is out of work....Tony Blair. I'm surprised the lying cunt has not applied already. "Wanted" Dictatorial type leader who is easily corrupted and wants to earn a fortune for doing fuck all , other than handing out, and receiving, brown envelopes. Go on Tony....You know it makes sense.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 3, 2015 4:46:12 GMT
Don't buy this at all. The next president will be voted in by the same people who voted Blatter in. They didn't vote for Prince Ali then, why would they do so now? (Or in December, or next March, or possibly May, or whenever they actually get around to doing it....). If there IS a discussion and another vote about the World cups in 2018 & 2022 it will be the same people voting who voted for Russia & Qatar in the first place. Blatter will still be president at Christmas and beyond. Even if the FBI / Swiss find enough evidence to actually prosecute Blatter himself it will be years before it comes to trial, and do you think all those delegates from third world countries in Asia & Africa will care about a bit of fraud? If it's true that the FBI are after Blatter, FIFA won't want their leader arrested, remanded and then extradited to USA. This election will happen quickly. Hope you're right, but I'll believe it when it happens. Right after Blatter made his speech the chairman of FIFA's audit and compliance committee pops up like a dodgy plumber, sucking his teeth and scratching his chin and saying that "because of FIFA's existing rules" there has to be at least a 4 month notice period, and that in order to allow candidates sufficient time to prepare it's likely the congress will be sometime between December and March. In the meantime Blatter is still sitting at the centre of the web pulling the strings.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 3, 2015 4:57:04 GMT
Don't buy this at all. The next president will be voted in by the same people who voted Blatter in. They didn't vote for Prince Ali then, why would they do so now? (Or in December, or next March, or possibly May, or whenever they actually get around to doing it....). If there IS a discussion and another vote about the World cups in 2018 & 2022 it will be the same people voting who voted for Russia & Qatar in the first place. Blatter will still be president at Christmas and beyond. Even if the FBI / Swiss find enough evidence to actually prosecute Blatter himself it will be years before it comes to trial, and do you think all those delegates from third world countries in Asia & Africa will care about a bit of fraud? Technically, Blatter is a dead man mate. Africa and Asia will vote for the best man, but this time they will have to choose from non-corrupt candidates. Only Platini can be regarded as less than squeaky clean due to his family ties with Qatar. Blatter's history. Sincerely hope you're right mate, maybe I'm just a crusty old cynic but I'll believe it when I see it. Who are these "non-corrupt" candidates? Platini is no different to Blatter, yet he will probably be the UEFA preferred candidate . There will certainly be a candidate from Blatter's inner circle, and that's who all the Asian, African and CONCACAF members will vote for. I'd love to see someone like Luis Figo standing but sadly I think he's got no chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 5:08:07 GMT
Technically, Blatter is a dead man mate. Africa and Asia will vote for the best man, but this time they will have to choose from non-corrupt candidates. Only Platini can be regarded as less than squeaky clean due to his family ties with Qatar. Blatter's history. Sincerely hope you're right mate, maybe I'm just a crusty old cynic but I'll believe it when I see it. Who are these "non-corrupt" candidates? Platini is no different to Blatter, yet he will probably be the UEFA preferred candidate . There will certainly be a candidate from Blatter's inner circle, and that's who all the Asian, African and CONCACAF members will vote for. I'd love to see someone like Luis Figo standing but sadly I think he's got no chance. I think for corruption to work both parties have to be complicit. FIFA will now have a spotlight so bright on its every move that even if the membership wanted to be corrupt a reformed NEW FIFA would be under that much scrutiny that any wrongdoing would be picked up, or rather deemed far too risky. The gravy train has come to an abrupt halt. The type of reforms that will now flow through and over FIFA simply could not have happened under Blatter as he was the clearly the biggest barrier on the road to reform. Blatter is a liar and a conman who was shouting "Reform FIFA" but was doing nothing, starting investigations that were quoshed and ignoring calls to stand aside for years. Read how Jaques Rogges reformed the IOC. It's the same thing that's required at FIFA. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/8636963/Interview-Jacques-Rogge-IOC-president.html
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 3, 2015 6:38:53 GMT
Pre-order this from Amazon. It's going like hot cakes and U.S. Likely to be sold out by end of the month.......... Attachment Deleted
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Post by greenhoff74 on Jun 3, 2015 7:58:36 GMT
Blatter is due to attend the women's World Cup final in Canada, I don't suppose he'd want to going anywhere near there!
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jun 3, 2015 8:07:42 GMT
I don't think your 2nd paragraph is in any way fair or accurate. In my view, the FA made a great mistake when it established the PL in 1992 because of its disputes with the then FL, and a belief that it would improve the England team ( in fact it has done the reverse). It established a monster which it now can't control. But there is no sense in which the FA feeds or pampers the top clubs at the expense of the grass roots. As a member of the FA Council I can assure you that there is a strong desire on the Council to see much more of the PL money spent on the grass roots. I think the FA should reclaim its historic role as the Governing body, which would include control over how income earned at the top of the game is spent, but that will be a difficult battle to win, and would be vulnerable to all sorts of legal challenges from the PL clubs. The FA may be weak, even incompetent, in some areas, and I would like to see many reforms in the way that it is run, but "reprehensible and morally corrupt" it most certainly isn't in my view and it also does a lot of very good work. And I strongly disagree with your last sentence, and the idea that Blatter and his cronies have been "doing a lot of things right for the good of the many rather than the few". It has been the "few" who have benefitted from a totally corrupt regime and culture in my view. You are right that Blatter certainly understood that the world is corrupt because in the world of football his regime at the very least tolerated and probably promoted such corruption. Thank you for that considered response Malcolm. My problem with our FA goes back to 1992 because anyone could see that allowing the creation of a separate elite league would be to the detriment of the game as a whole. The FA allowed itself (or rather it's members did) to be intimidated by the big clubs threatening to pull away and either caved in to their demands (weak) or allowed their vote to be bought (corrupt).. There is no evidence of the second point of course and there never will be but if FIFA wanted to hit back at the FA I am sure they would feel very uncomfortable if they poked about too much re events that caused the FA to sanction the Premier League. What the FA should have done is stood firm and told any club that wanted to break away that they would be an unauthorised club, and that any players who played for an unauthorised club would never be allowed to play again for an authorised club or their country. That might have led to a Kerry Packers Circus type situation and very few players would be prepared to have taken a risk of joining that circus from which there was no escape once they were in. BM I pretty much agree with that, Mick. In my view it was a huge mistake, and Graham Kelly admitted as much some years later. I honestly don't think it was corrupt, but I do think it was born of petty disputes with the FL; naivety and lack of foresight. Of course, the establishment and media mantra is that the PL has been a huge success and good for english football. In some ways it has, but overall I think the scales fall down fairly heavily on the negative side.
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Post by Northy on Jun 3, 2015 8:10:27 GMT
Blatter is due to attend the women's World Cup final in Canada, I don't suppose he'd want to going anywhere near there! It was already said last week him and some of his cronies wouldn't be going
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jun 3, 2015 8:13:50 GMT
Failing that...The man with integrity, honesty and dedication to the cause, and he is out of work....Tony Blair. I'm surprised the lying cunt has not applied already. "Wanted" Dictatorial type leader who is easily corrupted and wants to earn a fortune for doing fuck all , other than handing out, and receiving, brown envelopes. Go on Tony....You know it makes sense. You ought to read "Blair Inc", the new book by Francis Beckett et al, about what Blair has been up to since he stopped being PM and how much money he has made from doing it. It won't surprise you, but it might make you ( even more) angry I particularly liked one of the chapter titles - "The Blair rich project" - should have been the title for the whole book.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jun 3, 2015 8:40:23 GMT
the single biggest reason in my view
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 10:03:32 GMT
the single biggest reason in my view The piece of human crap that sits on top of the biggest dungheap of corruption and selfishness in sport ever conceived. I don't wish harm on anyone but I hope that Blatter sees out the rest of his days behind bars.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 3, 2015 10:14:16 GMT
Isn't he technically one of them? And Vice President FIFA in Asia to boot! No, he's on the right track and perhaps the only candidate who will give Platini a run for his money. A successful candidate needs influence in Asia and this fella doesn't need any extra dough. He's already minted. That logic reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons, where Monty Burns is asked to look after an incredibly large denomination dollar bank note. The thinking was that as he was so rich, he could be trusted with the bank note. You can guess the rest...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 10:18:42 GMT
No, he's on the right track and perhaps the only candidate who will give Platini a run for his money. A successful candidate needs influence in Asia and this fella doesn't need any extra dough. He's already minted. That logic reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons, where Monty Burns is asked to look after an incredibly large denomination dollar bank note. The thinking was that as he was so rich, he could be trusted with the bank note. You can guess the rest... Bad comparison. Mr. Burns is a pauper compared to this bloke. And...apparently, Prince Ali went through Sandringham Military Academy with March4 as his drill instructor. March says he's a "lovely boy".
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Post by enuntio on Jun 3, 2015 11:35:53 GMT
This doesn't just stop with Blatter. The whole organisation needs cleaning and then revamping with a new set of guidelines and rules regarding many issues, Not least the awarding of competitions. Why should it have to cost millions to bid?
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Post by Gaz on Jun 3, 2015 12:05:51 GMT
So FIFA just needs a no nonsense, results driven, incorruptible leader, who's not shy of headbutting any herberts who are out of order. Goaaaarn Tone get yer name in there.
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Post by Northy on Jun 3, 2015 12:14:41 GMT
That logic reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons, where Monty Burns is asked to look after an incredibly large denomination dollar bank note. The thinking was that as he was so rich, he could be trusted with the bank note. You can guess the rest... Bad comparison. Mr. Burns is a pauper compared to this bloke. And...apparently, Prince Ali went through Sandringham Military Academy with March4 as his drill instructor. March says he's a "lovely boy". Sandringham academy, is that one of those bogus colleges where you pay to get a visa and a degree? Do you mean Sandhurst
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Post by march4 on Jun 3, 2015 17:35:27 GMT
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jun 3, 2015 20:01:06 GMT
Breaking news - BBC reporting South Africa and France World Cup bribes received by Chuck Blazer!?
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Post by Northy on Jun 3, 2015 20:07:18 GMT
very interesting about France, depending on how big the bribe was.
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Post by fca47 on Jun 3, 2015 20:10:35 GMT
Now we know why France voted for him.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 3, 2015 20:14:33 GMT
breaking News on BBC.....Chuck Blazer admits accepting bribes for 2010 and 1998 WC during hearing in New York www.bbc.co.uk/news/32998735Puts the cat amongst the pigeons for sure.
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Post by Northy on Jun 3, 2015 20:17:47 GMT
Bids:
England France Germany Morocco Switzerland
This vote was held in Zurich for the fourth straight time on July 1, 1992. Only one round of voting was required to have France assume the hosting job over Morocco.
Result:
France, 12 votes Morocco, 7 votes Switzerland withdrew England withdrew Germany withdrew
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Post by march4 on Jun 3, 2015 20:21:58 GMT
breaking News on BBC.....Chuck Blazer admits accepting bribes for 2010 and 1998 WC during hearing in New York www.bbc.co.uk/news/32998735Puts the cat amongst the pigeons for sure. I think the cat is the size of a tiger, mate.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jun 3, 2015 20:28:16 GMT
Bribery and South Africa go hand in hand don't they. Cronje etc
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 1:13:35 GMT
breaking News on BBC.....Chuck Blazer admits accepting bribes for 2010 and 1998 WC during hearing in New York www.bbc.co.uk/news/32998735Puts the cat amongst the pigeons for sure. That puts the French in the merde. Does that mean Platini is implicated?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 1:21:17 GMT
Bad comparison. Mr. Burns is a pauper compared to this bloke. And...apparently, Prince Ali went through Sandringham Military Academy with March4 as his drill instructor. March says he's a "lovely boy". Sandringham academy, is that one of those bogus colleges where you pay to get a visa and a degree? Do you mean Sandhurst No, Sandringham is an elite military school in Norfolk. Everyone knows that mate.
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Post by tuum on Jun 4, 2015 1:28:00 GMT
Bribery and South Africa go hand in hand don't they. Cronje etc Bribery and most places go hand in hand. The UK and the US could do better if you look at any of the corruption indices. At least the US has the desire to try and stamp it out on occasion. We have no such desire.
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Post by c00kie on Jun 4, 2015 1:33:15 GMT
very interesting about France, depending on how big the bribe was. I'm sure Platini had no knowledge of this. [PS Jane Austen never used smileys]
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 4:07:46 GMT
Looks like Jack Warner is now spilling the beans in a bizarre TV interview where he states he's about to reveal "an avalanche of secrets". He also says he "fears for his life" and claims he will prove a link between soccer’s governing body and the national elections in his native Trinidad and Tobago. He goes on to say " There can be no reversal of the course of action which I have now embarked upon". In a later speech he remarks "Blatter knows why he fell. And if anyone else knows, I do". This evidence is edging closer and closer to nailing Blatter. Apparently Warner stole a legitimate Australian payment of $500,000 from the CONCACAF bank account. When the Australians asked CONCACAF to return the money (because it wasn’t used for the purpose intended), they were advised by FIFA to wait until their inquiries were complete. Warner is guilty and is clearly intent on taking Blatter with him, possibly as a plea bargain. The Aussies are also demanding that Qatar be stripped of the 2022 WC with a Senate inquiry into Australia’s failed bid to host the 2022 Fifa World Cup “almost inevitable” and David Beckham, who is now backing Luis Figo's candidacy, has released a strongly worded statement slamming FIFA. England 2018 anyone? www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/jun/03/sepp-blatter-reports-fifa-president-us-corruption-probe-liveEDIT: The FBI is now also investigating the awarding of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups to Russia and Qatar as part of its FIFA corruption investigation.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 4, 2015 7:07:13 GMT
breaking News on BBC.....Chuck Blazer admits accepting bribes for 1998 WC It now makes sense that when UEFA members agreed to vote against Blatter, France broke rank & voted for him.
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