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Post by basingstokie on Jun 2, 2015 19:04:14 GMT
I can't see Qatar surviving now. Russia at least has some heritage and isn't that far away now.
I reckon there will be some form of 'come clean and we'll let you keep the wc' type amnesty for them
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Post by Nick1984 on Jun 2, 2015 19:30:20 GMT
Yup, Russia's a cert. Big country with a sporting tradition, good summer climate and have yet to host.
Qatar has nothing to offer, I'd love to see Australia get it. USA and Japan have both hosted in the past 20 years so too soon.
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 2, 2015 19:31:24 GMT
Corruption corruption corruption. The world is corrupt. Blatter understood that and he had a good track record of using that to advantage some of the most deprived countries, that's why he was popular in most of Africa and Asia.
Our FA have a track record of feeding and pampering the rich pigs at the top of English football to get ever fatter whilst the poor clubs wither and facilities at grass roots level are a disgrace. They are reprehensible and morally corrupt and the fact that they have led the way in attacking Blatter makes me think Blatter was doing a lot of things right for the good of the many rather than the few.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 2, 2015 20:30:20 GMT
Now go and get his ill gotten gains and bang him up for the rest of his life Sent from my SM-G850F using proboards Hopefully this a prelude to criminal proceedings. Expect him to be setting up home soon in a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. Qatar maybe? Nah. More likely Russia. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 20:34:42 GMT
Shock bastard horror!
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 2, 2015 20:44:11 GMT
Realistically, Russia 2018 won't be stopped. They're too powerful and the situation is too politically sensitive. It's not great, but it could be worse. At least it'll be held in the summer.
Qatar, on the flip side, might just be preventable if the investigations find any proof of corruption. We'd then be spared a winter tournament and I have no doubt that the USA or Australia could put on a terrific World Cup.
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Post by mailman44 on Jun 2, 2015 20:46:05 GMT
They wouldn't go after him unless they were dead certain they had the evidence to convict. Wonder what his daughter has to say now ... |
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Post by ruts66 on Jun 2, 2015 20:47:29 GMT
There should be an inquest into the death of every stadium-worker (immigrant slave) in Qatar.
Then fuck them off and present the WC to a nation deserving of football's flagship tournament...
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 2, 2015 20:51:01 GMT
Realistically, Russia 2018 won't be stopped. They're too powerful and the situation is too politically sensitive. It's not great, but it could be worse. At least it'll be held in the summer. Qatar, on the flip side, might just be preventable if the investigations find any proof of corruption. We'd then be spared a winter tournament and I have no doubt that the USA or Australia could put on a terrific World Cup. I agree that the Russia World Cup is 'safe'. It's far too close now, especially once all this shit of finding Blatter's replacement is over. (It'll be interesting to see what happens if Ukraine qualify for it though!) ..... Qatar on the otherhand! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 20:55:40 GMT
Lets be honest, I think as things stand the odds on the 2022 World Cup being in America are better than it being in Qatar!
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 2, 2015 20:57:07 GMT
The only honourable way forward is restart with a clean sheet.
Appoint a new set of representatives from all countries and vote again on all issues. It may be impracticable to chose an alternative for 2018 and if so a motion should be passed affirming the decision to hold it there. Personally I believe it is perfectly possible for numerous countries to hold the 2018 WC in existing stadia.
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Post by march4 on Jun 2, 2015 21:07:37 GMT
Lets be honest, I think as things stand the odds on the 2022 World Cup being in America are better than it being in Qatar! I reckon you are spot on. And I also think the next World Cup will be reallocated, especially if Prince Ali is the new boss of FIFA. After all, he is a Sandhurst man. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 21:09:42 GMT
Lets be honest, I think as things stand the odds on the 2022 World Cup being in America are better than it being in Qatar! I reckon you are spot on. And I also think the next World Cup will be reallocated, especially if Prince Ali is the new boss of FIFA. After all, he is a Sandhurst man. I really can't see that, the politics are just too big! |
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Post by march4 on Jun 2, 2015 21:10:56 GMT
I reckon you are spot on. And I also think the next World Cup will be reallocated, especially if Prince Ali is the new boss of FIFA. After all, he is a Sandhurst man. I really can't see that, the politics are just too big! Those will be the politics that are seeing increasingly punitive sanctions being levied on Russia? |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 2, 2015 21:13:57 GMT
Ali was a stooge.
The real candidates will now step forward.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 21:15:39 GMT
I really can't see that, the politics are just too big! Those will be the politics that are seeing increasingly punitive sanctions being levied on Russia? You don't want to poke them too much though. Having America essentially snatch a World Cup off them would cause hell! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 21:16:23 GMT
Ali was a stooge. The real candidates will now step forward. Yeah Platini, that moral upstanding gent who is completely against Qatar and will clean FIFA up.  |
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 2, 2015 21:18:03 GMT
The only honourable way forward is restart with a clean sheet. Appoint a new set of representatives from all countries and vote again on all issues. Â It may be impracticable to chose an alternative for 2018 and if so a motion should be passed affirming the decision to hold it there. Personally I believe it is perfectly possible for numerous countries to hold the 2018 WC in existing stadia. Another thing needed is to change the voting system to reflect the relative size of each association. |
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Post by switch on Jun 2, 2015 21:24:06 GMT
Although this is a good thing it isnt going to change much. There is to be a re election? So the same set of crooked fuckers who voted the cunt Blatter in get to decide who succeeds him! Fifa is far from being reformed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 21:27:06 GMT
Fantastic day for football. The good will out and these pricks will pay. England 2018 anyone? No, Russia had the better bid. Qatar being switched to Australia, Japan or USA could happen though. The UK had by far the best bid for 2018. The US had the best bid for 2022 (Australia were second last to Qatar). If these tournaments were awarded as a result of bribes and illegal payments then of course they will be re-awarded with Russia and Qatar potentially expelled from FIFA or whatever replaces it. We are talking about serious fraud here and much depends upon what the paper trail, web trail and key witnesses reveal. This is far from over. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 2, 2015 21:29:18 GMT
Platini will be the favourite.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 2, 2015 21:30:53 GMT
Ali was a stooge. The real candidates will now step forward. Yeah Platini, that moral upstanding gent who is completely against Qatar and will clean FIFA up. That's why the whole of the restructuring of FIFA needs to be taken out of the hands of FIFA. See the IOC. The concern is that Blatter hangs around and has an influence on the voting for the next President and we go around in circles again. Less likely now given what ABC are reporting in the States. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 2, 2015 21:31:50 GMT
Platini will be the favourite. Wouldn't be too sure of that. A European candidate has serious bridges to build across Africa, Asia and South America. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 2, 2015 21:34:19 GMT
Platini will be the favourite. New boss is the same as the old boss. Platini is a traitor to football. |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jun 2, 2015 21:40:31 GMT
linkI'm not massively into betting but just noticed that William Hill, Betfair and Bwin say suspended by then. Does this happen fairly often with this type of betting or could it be that a decision is already fairly close?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 21:40:39 GMT
Yeah Platini, that moral upstanding gent who is completely against Qatar and will clean FIFA up. That's why the whole of the restructuring of FIFA needs to be taken out of the hands of FIFA. See the IOC. The concern is that Blatter hangs around and has an influence on the voting for the next President and we go around in circles again. Less likely now given what ABC are reporting in the States. Who does that though? There are so many of them that can't be trusted including the great western hope UEFA. I mean even we tried to bribe folk for the 2018 World Cup, we just did it shitly! Unless there's a complete overhaul with completely new faces then getting rid of Blatter means naff all even if he actually went tomorrow. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 2, 2015 21:44:18 GMT
Swiss authorities say he is not under investigation (of course not). When U.S. authorities say it I will believe it. Oh yes he is! Pantomime season has started early. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 2, 2015 21:47:16 GMT
That's why the whole of the restructuring of FIFA needs to be taken out of the hands of FIFA. See the IOC. The concern is that Blatter hangs around and has an influence on the voting for the next President and we go around in circles again. Less likely now given what ABC are reporting in the States. Who does that though? There are so many of them that can't be trusted including the great western hope UEFA. I mean even we tried to bribe folk for the 2018 World Cup, we just did it shitly! Unless there's a complete overhaul with completely new faces then getting rid of Blatter means naff all even if he actually went tomorrow. That's what the IOC did. Mitt Romney was brought in to totally restructure the whole organisation. Root and branch change is needed to make a difference. I wouldn't hold my breath though, turkeys seldom vote for Christmas. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 21:52:45 GMT
I wonder where David Gill will go from here?
He currently sits on UEFA's executive committee and was elected as Britain's FIFA Vice-President, replacing Jim Boyce but refused to take on the role unless Blatter resigned.
A man of high integrity, but more importantly he is a Brit who is widely respected globally. Blatter waged a war on the Brits because of the very open and intrusive nature of our press and the UK's aversion to corruption in sport.
The 2018WC could very easily be re-awarded. The UK was the front runner and obvious clear bid choice for a whole host of reasons that go beyond just infrastructure or fan base and David Gill could well be the new top man.
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Post by march4 on Jun 2, 2015 21:54:40 GMT
Platini will be the favourite. Wouldn't be too sure of that. A European candidate has serious bridges to build across Africa, Asia and South America. Which is why Prince Ali will be the next leader. That is why he withdrew from the second ballot - a deal had been struck. He could not afford to be seen as a divisive candidate. And his first move will be to restart the bidding process for the next 2 World Cups. It must be odds on that one of the next 3 World Cups will now be held in England and one will be held in the US. |
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