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Post by stayingupforalasrimmed on Jun 2, 2015 17:49:03 GMT
And this to the people who think Russia won't be hosting the 2018 World Cup! That would be genius. Take the world cup from Russia and unite all the football fans of Europe at the same time
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Post by stayingupforalasrimmed on Jun 2, 2015 17:51:00 GMT
Are you watching Vladimir?
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 2, 2015 17:53:15 GMT
Hold on a minute, it seems he hasn't actually gone yet. He said he'll stay on until a new president is elected, which may not be until December at the earliest. Plenty of time for him to "reluctantly" accept the pleas from his supporters to stay on and serve his full term...... Scala - No election until December I'll believe he's gone when he's actually f***ing gone!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 17:53:40 GMT
How will Blatter stepping down affect the next two World Cups? If corruption played a part in their nominations then their nominations are illegal and wrong . They form part of a crime . A Fraud on a global scale and involving hundreds of individuals . It will encompass many lines of enquiry and many banks ...money laundering , illegal bank transactions etcetera .
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 2, 2015 17:56:31 GMT
Fantastic day for football. The good will out and these pricks will pay.
England 2018 anyone?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 17:57:51 GMT
There's no way Russia won't host 2018 imo. World War 3 would happen!
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Post by Nick1984 on Jun 2, 2015 17:58:38 GMT
Fantastic day for football. The good will out and these pricks will pay. England 2018 anyone? No, Russia had the better bid. Qatar being switched to Australia, Japan or USA could happen though.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 2, 2015 18:00:42 GMT
There's no way Russia won't host 2018 imo. World War 3 would happen! Not if the right evidence is found.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 18:02:15 GMT
There's no way Russia won't host 2018 imo. World War 3 would happen! Oh there is ......it is an ideal opportunity for the west to rub their grubby corrupt noses in it quoting a FIFA scandal .....a fraud ...a crime has been committed .!!! Unless of course a deal is done by the politicians asking them , or telling them to pull out of UKraine or kiss your World Cup hopes goodbye .
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 2, 2015 18:02:43 GMT
Fantastic day for football. The good will out and these pricks will pay. England 2018 anyone? No, Russia had the better bid. Qatar being switched to Australia, Japan or USA could happen though. Why was it the better bid? They have got to build a complete new infrastructure for a transport system through the whole country and it's doing it on the say so of promises to fund the whole thing. Couple that with their economy hitting rock bottom who knows.
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Post by desman2 on Jun 2, 2015 18:04:00 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jun 2, 2015 18:04:55 GMT
I thought a deal had been struck last week when Prince Ali bin Hussein pulled out of the election. I think so even more so now.
Prince Ali was educated in USA and England.
The next World Cup will now be in England and the one afterwards will be in the USA.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 2, 2015 18:07:14 GMT
Fantastic day for football. The good will out and these pricks will pay. England 2018 anyone? No, Russia had the better bid. Qatar being switched to Australia, Japan or USA could happen though. By what measure? Better Stadia? Better infrastructure? Generate more sponsorship & commercial revenue?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 18:07:22 GMT
There's no way Russia won't host 2018 imo. World War 3 would happen! I don't think Russia has any chance now .
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Post by march4 on Jun 2, 2015 18:09:44 GMT
There's no way Russia won't host 2018 imo. World War 3 would happen! I don't think Russia has any chance now . I don't. As soon as Germany said they weren't pulling out of the World Cup it was clear something was going on behind the scenes.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 2, 2015 18:09:49 GMT
I thought a deal had been struck last week when Prince Ali bin Hussein pulled out of the election. I think so even more so now. Prince Ali was educated in USA and England. The next World Cup will now be in England and the one afterwards will be in the USA.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 18:11:02 GMT
Yeah Putin and Russia will take it ever so well.....no chance!
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 2, 2015 18:13:47 GMT
I thought a deal had been struck last week when Prince Ali bin Hussein pulled out of the election. I think so even more so now. Prince Ali was educated in USA and England. The next World Cup will now be in England and the one afterwards will be in the USA. Not a chance. Russia have too much political power and Qatar have too much money.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 18:14:51 GMT
Yeah Putin and Russia will take it ever so well.....no chance! Russia's influence in World football in relation to FIFA and UEFA is minimal at best . The West Rules Bayern .....it's as simple as that , and they have been very naughty in Ukraine you know .... Sometimes politics meets football and politics wins every time .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 18:15:45 GMT
I thought a deal had been struck last week when Prince Ali bin Hussein pulled out of the election. I think so even more so now. Prince Ali was educated in USA and England. The next World Cup will now be in England and the one afterwards will be in the USA. Not a chance. Russia have too much political power and Qatar have too much money. Where and who ?
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 2, 2015 18:18:01 GMT
Not a chance. Russia have too much political power and Qatar have too much money. Where and who ? Well Russia could turn the gas off for a start and Qatar could take FIFA to the cleaners. Football itself couldn't force change in Fifa, it's taken the FBI and a political will to do so. Pressure.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 18:18:24 GMT
Yeah Putin and Russia will take it ever so well.....no chance! Russia's influence in World football in relation to FIFA and UEFA is minimal at best . The West Rules Bayern .....it's as simple as that , and they have been very naughty in Ukraine you know .... Sometimes politics meets football and politics wins every time . UEFA won't work to take a tournament off a UEFA member. In fact in this whole thing they've been shown for how weak they are. This has been bought about by British journalists and the FBI. And why? Because we lost the bids. Can you imagine the shit storm Russia will kick up for losing a World Cup it actually won? And it does make sense to have a World Cup in Russia tbh, so I just can't see them losing it. Qatar on the other hand.....
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 2, 2015 18:22:50 GMT
Russia's influence in World football in relation to FIFA and UEFA is minimal at best . The West Rules Bayern .....it's as simple as that , and they have been very naughty in Ukraine you know .... Sometimes politics meets football and politics wins every time . UEFA won't work to take a tournament off a UEFA member. In fact in this whole thing they've been shown for how weak they are. This has been bought about by British journalists and the FBI. And why? Because we lost the bids. Can you imagine the shit storm Russia will kick up for losing a World Cup it actually won? And it does make sense to have a World Cup in Russia tbh, so I just can't see them losing it. Qatar on the other hand..... I thought it was the Swiss that asked the FBI to investigate?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 18:24:24 GMT
UEFA won't work to take a tournament off a UEFA member. In fact in this whole thing they've been shown for how weak they are. This has been bought about by British journalists and the FBI. And why? Because we lost the bids. Can you imagine the shit storm Russia will kick up for losing a World Cup it actually won? And it does make sense to have a World Cup in Russia tbh, so I just can't see them losing it. Qatar on the other hand..... I thought it was the Swiss that asked the FBI to investigate? I thought it was the other way around? Or they're completely independent. The FBI did because they used American banks, which I can't see the Swiss starting going off their apathy for however many years.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 2, 2015 18:26:28 GMT
I doubt if Russia will have the World Cup taken away from them no matter what evidence the Swiss investigation finds. I just can't see the world having the appetite to confront/provoke Putin - after all his response would most likely to be annexation of another tract of country and if the world wasn't prepared to stop him annexing Crimea and causing a war in Eastern Ukraine they won't want to start now.
Qatar is a different kettle of fish altogether. There is no appetite in Europe for a winter tournament - the date is still years away - there are the human rights abuses of the migrant workers - and Qatar does not have the power to fuck the world up that Putin does. I can see a rerun of the vote sometime early next year.
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Post by premiershipteamfor10years on Jun 2, 2015 18:33:25 GMT
I doubt if Russia will have the World Cup taken away from them no matter what evidence the Swiss investigation finds. I just can't see the world having the appetite to confront/provoke Putin - after all his response would most likely to be annexation of another tract of country and if the world wasn't prepared to stop him annexing Crimea and causing a war in Eastern Ukraine they won't want to start now. Qatar is a different kettle of fish altogether. There is no appetite in Europe for a winter tournament - the date is still years away - there are the human rights abuses of the migrant workers - and Qatar does not have the power to fuck the world up that Putin does. I can see a rerun of the vote sometime early next year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 18:34:33 GMT
I doubt if Russia will have the World Cup taken away from them no matter what evidence the Swiss investigation finds. I just can't see the world having the appetite to confront/provoke Putin - after all his response would most likely to be annexation of another tract of country and if the world wasn't prepared to stop him annexing Crimea and causing a war in Eastern Ukraine they won't want to start now. Qatar is a different kettle of fish altogether. There is no appetite in Europe for a winter tournament - the date is still years away - there are the human rights abuses of the migrant workers - and Qatar does not have the power to fuck the world up that Putin does. I can see a rerun of the vote sometime early next year. Even after the events in Eastern Ukraine ..... You don't think that foreign ministers and sports ministers might see this as their one and only bargaining tool . Influence and pressure can be exerted in many obscure and indirect ways . They may be worlds apart , but as we all know life isn't that simple at times .
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 2, 2015 18:35:05 GMT
No, Russia had the better bid. Qatar being switched to Australia, Japan or USA could happen though. By what measure? Better Stadia? Better infrastructure? Generate more sponsorship & commercial revenue? Bigger bribe ...obvious really
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Post by premiershipteamfor10years on Jun 2, 2015 18:37:11 GMT
I think Russia could lose the World Cup. If there is any evidence of corruption found they will lose it.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 2, 2015 18:43:40 GMT
I doubt if Russia will have the World Cup taken away from them no matter what evidence the Swiss investigation finds. I just can't see the world having the appetite to confront/provoke Putin - after all his response would most likely to be annexation of another tract of country and if the world wasn't prepared to stop him annexing Crimea and causing a war in Eastern Ukraine they won't want to start now. Qatar is a different kettle of fish altogether. There is no appetite in Europe for a winter tournament - the date is still years away - there are the human rights abuses of the migrant workers - and Qatar does not have the power to fuck the world up that Putin does. I can see a rerun of the vote sometime early next year. Even after the events in Eastern Ukraine ..... You don't think that foreign ministers and sports ministers might see this as their one and only bargaining tool . Influence and pressure can be exerted in many obscure and indirect ways . They may be worlds apart , but as we all know life isn't that simple at times . Mumf - if the world hasn't managed to get its act together to stop what is happening in Ukraine, then I don't see any revelation about bribes paid to secure a World Cup in Russia is going to motive them to do something they have had plenty of good reasons to do during the past two years.
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