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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 30, 2013 6:01:04 GMT
My go on the BBC predictor says Newcastle go down and we stay 12th on 43 points. I've taken into account current form and I just can't see Newcastle pulling themselves out df free fall. A man after my own heart Linx. I like the cut of your jib, as I might have said if I was a sailor! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) I'm certainly of the opinion that those who are worrying about relegation from our present position should take up something more suited to their temperament - like flower arranging! ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) I think it will be Wigan for the drop - but I hope it is Newcastle.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Apr 30, 2013 7:28:47 GMT
My go on the BBC predictor says Newcastle go down and we stay 12th on 43 points. I've taken into account current form and I just can't see Newcastle pulling themselves out df free fall. I did the predictor 2 games ago, I too got Newcastle down on 38 or 40 points I think, I can't see them getting another point. Perhaps 1 QPR away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 8:18:07 GMT
I can’t believe any Stoke fan wanted a Villa win last night.
There’s only one slot left for relegation so our priority has to be, until it’s mathematically an impossibility of us going down, finishing above at least one team other than QPR and Reading.
Some of the reasoning on this thread suggested a Villa win was better as it kept us 3 points above Sunderland but final positioning is irrelevant until we are safe.
Before last nights game Villa were 6 points behind us and Wigan 8. The best outcome for us would be to keep them as far away from us as possible. We just need to finish above one of those teams and we are safe, it’s as simple as that.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m pretty sure we’ll be ok, but stranger things have happened in football and the job isn’t done just yet. We saw last Season that Wigan are capable of putting together a set of results. If they do it again this Season, as unlikely as it may seem right now, then we need another team to be cut off down at the bottom. That team, until last night, could’ve been Villa.
As it is, they are right back in the hunt now. If Wigan do manage to string results together, and they were within a minute or two of beating Spurs at the weekend, it could be blown wide open again.
Disastrous result last night.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 30, 2013 9:33:52 GMT
It is only a disastrous result if we end up getting relegated. If we don't end up relegated than it is a great result as it gives us the chance of an extra place in the table which could be worth £800k. Let's wait and see how things pan out before claiming a result is a disaster.
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Post by mcf on Apr 30, 2013 13:52:15 GMT
Normally, I'd be with whydeliah...
I'd be mightly tempted to take 17th here and now....other than...
...we would never hear the end of it from the PHWs
On that basis, I will take a risk.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 30, 2013 17:19:00 GMT
I honestly can't see how Wigan can come back from this?
We are on 40 points. As far as Wigwam are concerned that might as well be 41 because of our goal difference.
They therefore have to take 9 points from a possible 12. One of their remaining games is Arsenal away and they have the distraction of the FA Cup Final.
Even supposing there they were to some how get three wins from their last four games, for us to go down would also mean Newcastle, Sunderland AND Villa all taking at least 4 points from their last three games. Under this scenario... Villa would have to take 4 points from their next two games (because we are supposing Wigan will beat them on the last day) and their next home game is Chelsea.
And of course even if the above (extremely unlikely) scenario were to unfold it would also be necessary for us to fail to take a single point from our remaining three games.
If you consider the probability for each of these things, multiply them together = it is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that we will go down.
Based on that... last night was probably a good result for us. Sunderland are now less likely to finish ahead of us and they will probably go into next Monday's game with lower confidence too.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 30, 2013 17:23:59 GMT
I honestly can't see how Wigan can come back from this? We are on 40 points. As far as Wigwam are concerned that might as well be 41 because of our goal difference. They therefore have to take 9 points from a possible 12. One of their remaining games is Arsenal away and they have the distraction of the FA Cup Final. Even supposing there they were to some how get three wins from their last four games, for us to go down would also mean Newcastle, Sunderland AND Villa all taking at least 4 points from their last three games. Under this scenario... Villa would have to take 4 points from their next two games (because we are supposing Wigan will beat them on the last day) and their next home game is Chelsea. And of course even if the above (extremely unlikely) scenario were to unfold it would also be necessary for us to fail to take a single point from our remaining three games. If you consider the probability for each of these things, multiply them together = it is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that we will go down. Based on that... last night was probably a good result for us. Sunderland are now less likely to finish ahead of us and they will probably go into next Monday's game with lower confidence too. That's how I see it - but you have put it better!
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