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Post by padders01 on Apr 28, 2012 23:03:07 GMT
Very good fence sitting mate, ha ha ;D Thank you for sticking up for me For the first time in years I have logged off the message board tonight after a game
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 28, 2012 23:03:28 GMT
I didn't boo, I felt that would put me on the same scale as Arsenal FC and so I can see where Padders, a more than decent poster who deserves to air his view with persoal abuse, is coming from. That said, I can also fully understand why many did boo Ramsey for his classless refusal to accept an apology. So both are right. Ace fence sitting. Same here.
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Post by prem4stoke on Apr 28, 2012 23:05:59 GMT
When Crouch scored why didn't we sing 'Peter Crouch he scores when he want's, Peter Crouch he scores when he wants'? Perfect after they were singing 'Van Pesie scores when he wants' then Crouch scored.
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Post by boothenender7 on Apr 28, 2012 23:19:01 GMT
he acted like bit of a twat after the incident with his refusal to even acknowledge ryans honest and MATURE apology for what was an unfortunate accident that was actually the fault of an arsenql player who held ryan back by his shirt for the split second that caused the collision. for that he deserves to be booed...and lets not forget that the arsenal fans have all but called ryan a criminal and a thug....total bullshit from a bunch of thick southern cunters. i booed him, im not ashamed, in fact i did it in response to the treatment of ryan..he`s a stoke player and gets my 100% support like ramsey does from his fans so whats the problem padders? get off your high horse and see the bigger picture....if pulis deserves to be booed for doing his very best in making stoke a recognised team to be feared and an established premiership club then that little welsh prick deserves to be booed too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 23:32:07 GMT
Can't believe how many of the posters on here care so little about our club's reputation.
I couldn't give a toss about Ramsey, his leg, or his feelings, but I do care about how our club is viewed. Booing him is one thing, but chants revelling in him being injured don't exactly paint us in the best light do they?
Will anyone outside of Stoke really give a shit why Stoke fans were giving him a hard time? Or will it just give those who've had a go at us, including Wenger, the chance to reinforce their views and influence others that we really are a club with thuggish tendancies?
One final thing, there was a front cover of the Oatcake a year or two ago about Chelsea worshipping their captain John Terry. From memory, there were pictures of Banks and Matthews on the cover, the catchline being that we had higher standards.
Do we?
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 28, 2012 23:45:39 GMT
What these morons fail to realise, is just how bad it comes over to the neutral.
These are the same idiots who probably come on here whinging when the media give us a hard time.
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Post by padders01 on Apr 28, 2012 23:50:57 GMT
Finally a few posters who can see the bigger picture. Thanks guys. I really thought I was in the wrong
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Post by boothenender7 on Apr 28, 2012 23:51:08 GMT
What these morons fail to realise, is just how bad it comes over to the neutral. These are the same idiots who probably come on here whinging when the media give us a hard time. are these the same neutrals who say the club we love has no place in the premier league/are a disgrace to the game/should have been banned from playing in the europa league...because of how we CHOOSE to play? ??? yeah spitthedog, i really value their opinion of me!!
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Post by shiftyfifty on Apr 28, 2012 23:52:07 GMT
Can't believe how many of the posters on here care so little about our club's reputation. I couldn't give a toss about Ramsey, his leg, or his feelings, but I do care about how our club is viewed. Booing him is one thing, but chants revelling in him being injured don't exactly paint us in the best light do they? Will anyone outside of Stoke really give a shit why Stoke fans were giving him a hard time? Or will it just give those who've had a go at us, including Wenger, the chance to reinforce their views and influence others that we really are a club with thuggish tendancies? One final thing, there was a front cover of the Oatcake a year or two ago about Chelsea worshipping their captain John Terry. From memory, there were pictures of Banks and Matthews on the cover, the catchline being that we had higher standards. Do we? No, we're no different from any other fans, and I'm sure given the same circumstances you'd get the same response anywhere. Personally, I don't care one bit what the media or other fans think of us, and hope we continue to make The Brit. as hostile as possible in the future.
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Post by shiftyfifty on Apr 28, 2012 23:53:59 GMT
Finally a few posters who can see the bigger picture. Thanks guys. I really thought I was in the wrong Nobody's right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinions.
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Post by stokeramblers on Apr 28, 2012 23:54:02 GMT
Ah well everyone hated us anyway. Hardly going to damage our rep anymore than it already is to be honest. I do wish they would contextualise things a bit more though.
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Post by padders01 on Apr 28, 2012 23:55:07 GMT
Finally a few posters who can see the bigger picture. Thanks guys. I really thought I was in the wrong Nobody's right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinions. Yes very true but I was getting a fair bit of abuse
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Post by stokeramblers on Apr 28, 2012 23:55:46 GMT
I don't recall anyone in the media getting their knickers in a twist when Arsenal fans were mocking Adebayor after his compatriots were gunned down in front of his very eyes though. Use that out there in cyber space Stokies. ;D
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Post by shiftyfifty on Apr 28, 2012 23:58:00 GMT
Nobody's right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinions. Yes very true but I was getting a fair bit of abuse Yeah, there's no need for that, it really bugs me too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 23:58:46 GMT
Nobody's right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinions. Yes very true but I was getting a fair bit of abuse Aahh thats because you need be in the clique padders. What you posted was your opinion, personally I thought the booing was fine because how he treated shawcross through the media and how he wouldn't acknowledge his apologies etc. but each to there own bud
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Post by jarhead on Apr 29, 2012 0:05:30 GMT
stupid welsh prick needs his other leg fuckin up
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Post by playhowwewant on Apr 29, 2012 0:14:08 GMT
Right let's stop all this bollox now !
Rorys first game for us he had his leg snapped in two against Sunderland !
Forget wot you think of Rorys ability do we now HATE Sunderland or does Rory keep banging on about it 5 years on
Simple answer NO !
Difference being we accept this sort of thing happens, where as that utter c**t Ramsey still can't let It go now, plus to not accept an apology at the time was also a disgrace !
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Post by Irish Stokie on Apr 29, 2012 0:43:32 GMT
There is no way that Ramsey refusing to accept Ryan's apology warrants booing from us IMO. He didn't except an apology from someone who broke his leg, it really is fairly understandable and, although not very professional, is easily understandable. If you want to boo a player because he plays for an opposing side then that's fine, and if all the arsenal players got the same treatment that's fine too, but Ramsey really was singled out and it makes the club look awful.
The whole Ramsey incident has been done to death and no one will ever change their opinion one way or the other but the fact that people cannot air their very rational opinions on here without abuse is a joke.
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Post by Boyceys been up the attic on Apr 29, 2012 0:56:53 GMT
Right let's stop all this bollox now ! Rorys first game for us he had his leg snapped in two against Sunderland ! Forget what you think of Rorys ability do we now HATE Sunderland or does Rory keep banging on about it 5 years on Simple answer NO ! Difference being we accept this sort of thing happens, where as that utter c**t Ramsey still can't let It go now, plus to not accept an apology at the time was also a disgrace ! Well put Its a matter of class, unfortunatly ramsey and wenger constantly show there lack of it. Hansen and padders you are so wide of the mark on this one its unreal.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Apr 29, 2012 1:08:41 GMT
It is my belief that if Ramsey had accepted the apology or come out with less inflammatory statement after the incident, his first trip back to the Brit would have been received with unanimous applause. It is 100% down to Arsenal's handling of the aftermath that anybody is still talking about this two years later.
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Post by bettyswallox on Apr 29, 2012 1:23:50 GMT
Disgraceful that some of us booed him. The lad his leg snapped by one of our players, for Christ's sake.
Some people need to grow up.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 29, 2012 1:42:00 GMT
The other thing I don't get is how booing is considered some sort of hate crime.
It's a bit like shouting 'you cad!' while watching a terrorist threatening to blow up a city.
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Post by ichabodcheesecake on Apr 29, 2012 1:44:04 GMT
This Ramsay nonsense has gone on way too long. You'd think that Arsenal would let it drop by now....was an awful injury but he's not the only player ever to be injured. Does a game ever go by on TV when it isn't brought up?
To be fair there was not even a murmur re Ramsay today until yet again Arsenal bring the matter up abusing Shawcross then cry when it's reciprocated although didn't agree with it
The Wenger abuse on the other hand was priceless
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Post by northantsash on Apr 29, 2012 7:39:55 GMT
the whole issue needs to be dropped asap. It was 2 and a half years ago, shawcross has been abused and so has ramsey. Move on ffs and boo the whole arsenal team
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 29, 2012 7:41:45 GMT
padders great post and Im one who is totally embarassed to hear that our fans have been booing Aaron Ramsey. Those so-called "fans" are bringing our club into disrepute.
dont try and justify your behaviour on this messageboard, you are sad humans, I feel sorry for you
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 29, 2012 7:45:33 GMT
I think he's fair game now.
He suffered a nasty injury and that can happen in football but has since made a full recovery.
If he was sat in the stands and his career had been ended of course it would be in poor taste but he's absolutely fine and given the circumstances I thought it was perfectly acceptable to give him and his manager some stick.
Anyone would think he died during the incident! I didn't realise the supporter rules now dictate that someone who has been injured should be politely applauded whenever they play and be immune to any chants from the crowd.
It's all heading in a very sterile direction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 7:46:24 GMT
Finally a few posters who can see the bigger picture. Thanks guys. I really thought I was in the wrong Nobody's right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinions. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 29, 2012 7:48:33 GMT
Ferfuxache, it was over 2 years ago. Can't everyone leave this behind now? On both sides.
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Apr 29, 2012 7:48:53 GMT
Nobody's right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinions. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one And they all stink. Apart from mine which has the sweet aroma of a summers meadow.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 29, 2012 7:50:30 GMT
Some people love hating.
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