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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 17:12:46 GMT
I do agree with you on that piece though and I suppose I was talking figuratively. The most prominent remain party are probably the party most likely keeping no deal a possibility. I'm baffled by their position. A temporary government could last days but it doesn't play to her agenda of trying to weaken the position of Labour I suppose... They all have their own agendas. Or rather one agenda - power. Hence none of them cancelling their conferences at a time of national crisis, and an obvious reluctance from the opposition parties to vote for any kind of Brexit deal Johnson comes back with. Brexit has shown the twats for what they are.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 17:07:39 GMT
Can’t see a problem myself maybe swap kraut for Germany just to placate the sensitive souls To the point and true Oh and there it is finally outlined the racism that is behind a majority of there votes and the views of some of the brexiteers on here !! there now starting to show there true colours!! Their.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 16:19:58 GMT
Is it acceptable for the Scots and Irish being part of stopping us from leaving? Is it acceptable for parliament to shit on our vote for 3 years? I am fucked if I am getting up in arms about a poster with more than a grain of truth in it. (1) yes, they didn't want to leave as a country and that obviously brings up questions of independence within the UK. (2) parliament has been given fuck all to do bar block a shit deal and no deal. There is no truth to the poster. It's an absolute disgrace and for a heavily-funded, well supported political campaign to come out with something you expect of your racist uncle with half a brain cell is a terribly depressing thing. They had a series of indicative votes and nowt passed. And my uncle isn't racist.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 15:56:57 GMT
Does anybody really think this is acceptable? Yes, lots of people. Clearly it's not but we really are staring into the abyss....... Is it acceptable for the Scots and Irish being part of stopping us from leaving? Is it acceptable for parliament to shit on our vote for 3 years? I am fucked if I am getting up in arms about a poster with more than a grain of truth in it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 15:51:02 GMT
cortisone injection should do the trick she needs one in her face I meant Hitler! Bloody hell, mate, thats brutal. Mind you, so was the blitzkrieg...
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 15:29:39 GMT
No. The angle of her arm is all wrong. Hitler had a few lazy salutes like that when he got a bit fed up Shoulder impingement.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 15:27:11 GMT
Does anybody really think this is acceptable? No. The angle of her arm is all wrong.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 15:21:15 GMT
Over 3 years, and no progress whatsoever. We'll be forced to stay in, like others. It's almost as if the Tories didn't really want it all along... For what it's worth. I reckon Corbyn would have had us out by now. Granted it would have been in a Norway flavoured deal which would still infuriate many but it would be out. Which is a damn sight more out than how it looks like it's going to be... Parliament didn't want it all along. They wanted us to vote Remain. Everything since has been a collective shitting of pants.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 15:10:56 GMT
Over 3 years, and no progress whatsoever. We'll be forced to stay in, like others. It's almost as if the Tories didn't really want it all along... For what it's worth. I reckon Corbyn would have had us out by now. Granted it would have been in a Norway flavoured deal which would still infuriate many but it would be out. Which is a damn sight more out than how it looks like it's going to be... Similar to what Kinnock is proposing. Actually, I think Corbyn is more in than that, well at least the front bench is.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 15:05:01 GMT
Did you say that before the referendum? Fair play if you did, but loads of people were perfectly happy to have the referendum, their quibbles came after the result. Do you think Remainers were better informed? I very much doubt it. Everyone is better informed now than they were at the time of the referendum, which is why there is no harm in asking 'do you really want to do this?' You cannot destroy democracy by having more democracy. We are deliberately being offered a false choice, End Of The World no deal or Remain. Why is nobody badgering Tusk about the free trade deal he supposedly offered us? Meanwhile parliament decides to take no deal off the table which emboldens the EU (if I buy into this bullshit charade for a minute) in "negotiations". We are all being played like fiddles.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 11:59:57 GMT
You only voted leave 'cos of what was written on a bus!!! Over 3 years, and no progress whatsoever. We'll be forced to stay in, like others.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 11:56:51 GMT
That’s crass. It was never about blue passports Joe. It was all about not wanting to be part of an EU Superstate. To you. One person. To others it was about blue passports. It was about a thousand different things - some valid and significant, others not - to millions of different people - some well informed, the majority not. That was the problem with this god forsaken ill-conceived thing in the first place. But that’s democracy I guess, after a fashion. F knows where we take it from here. Did you say that before the referendum? Fair play if you did, but loads of people were perfectly happy to have the referendum, their quibbles came after the result. Do you think Remainers were better informed? I very much doubt it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 11:52:39 GMT
I keep on hearing on here that we will thrive outside the eu with no evidence offered from the individuals concerned ! a few factors that need to be considered! we are a developed economy and as such we have moved from a manufacturing and producing economy into a service economy. We no longer concentrate on primary and secondary businesses as they offer little return in comparison to the tertiary sector. This is for a number of reasons mainly the cost of labour and resources. China and other developing countries like India have an excess of workers so they can force down wages etc and this means that we cant compete in these sectors. just look what has happened to the pottery industry in stoke on trent to see what has happened to British industry. lets now look at the secondary sector (the ones that process raw materials farmed goods) most of there resources come from Europe or other countries add 10% to there costs on raw materials and add also a rise in raw material prices because of a weaker pound and you have a price hike of 15-20 % but it does not stop there if they export these goods to Europe back again it adds a further 10% to the price it means that the goods from European suppliers suddenly become a lot more competitive in Europe ! what do you think this will do to sales> what do you think this will do to jobs? We then look at the service sector including in this the it sector which our economy has moved towards these are industries that can typically go anywhere and move sticks if economic conditions aren't right for them, if we add 10% to there costs and or additional paperwork what do you think they will do? what are the benefits for them staying here? add to this the technological advances of countries like India that even if they were charged with the same tariffs would be able to do it cheaper because of cheaper labour where do you think companies would chose Now lets look at a key factor of ownership of large businesses ie those that employ most workers most of British business through buyouts etc is owned by foreign firms. what sense of loyalty do you think they have to the uk?? what will they do if costs go up and its uneconomical to produce goods here and cheaper somewhere else? lets also look at the so called deal with America they for one have different standards on food safety which means that its cheaper to produce goods there what do you think this will do to British business? America can beat us on a number of the factors of production ie land (bigger than us) labour (more people than us) and hence economies of scale!! So before you start jumping in with these statements we will do better look at what your saying and look at the evidence around you. we as a country are not in the position we were during the industrial revolution or even when we where a global power through the commonwealth other countries have moved into those markets and can produce those goods cheaper and to the same standards. We have had a referendum and the people chose to leave. And Benn is calling for another one. What precedent does that set? Fuck around voting for nothing, pretend you can't decide, put it back to the people that you now supposedly respect? Absolute bollocks, but it seems plenty are happy with it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 10:50:57 GMT
The EU is not never going to accept a shitty proposal that jeopardises their long standing policies and commitments. They've said this for 3 years. The blame for not getting a deal sorted lies with the leave campaign making promises about super deals that were never going to happen. This has afforded politicians the opportunity to block any proposal we've had as they'll never live up to expectations. It's unfortunate that 3 years ago the leave campaign didn't just state that no deal was the most likely scenario and then they would have nothing to fall back on. Then again, you can;t be certain that leave would have won if the campaign had been honest. Either it's a no deal, or Boris bends over backwards to meet the EU demands. In the 2nd scenario he'll never get it through the HoCs though, so it's no deal or no Brexit. Hopefully decided soon in any case. I think most people are fed up with Brexit. Why did Donald Tusk say that a free trade agreement had been on the table from day one, then? Why did May not snap his hands off? I think it's bent as arses, Fos.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2019 9:31:42 GMT
I’d love to see a report on where we would be if we had left united back in March as planned with the whole of parliment behind it. It’s the uncertainty and dithering by parliment my end trying to overturn brexit which is the cause of many of the economic down turns. Get out make it work and watch the UK thrive Funny how on the same day of that report coming out, Gove is saying a deal looks impossible. I think the idea is to blackmail people into not leaving at all.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 7, 2019 9:20:38 GMT
Top 6 is still realistic. With or without Jones as boss?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 6, 2019 19:25:55 GMT
McClean is the key. If, as Clayton suggests, Nathan puts him back in, he deserves to lose his job. He's not a miracle worker, he can't turn McClean into a left back, despite his insistence that he can. Actually think McLean, Ince and Butland are the keys! Fair enough. I would play the exact same team for the next few matches (injuries permitting). Reward good performances. Most cohesive we have looked for ages.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 6, 2019 18:47:39 GMT
Half 2-2 Full 3-2.
If we keep the same personnel.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 6, 2019 18:35:00 GMT
McClean is the key. If, as Clayton suggests, Nathan puts him back in, he deserves to lose his job. He's not a miracle worker, he can't turn McClean into a left back, despite his insistence that he can.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 6, 2019 18:22:27 GMT
Really? Maybe you’ve got your reasons. Personally out of all the clubs we faced in the premier league I found that Liverpool fans were by far the best at getting behind their team. They hardly ever sang/chanted songs aimed at us but instead focused all their singing at their own team whether they were winning or losing. Unlike us to be honest,90% of our songs are aimed at the opposition fans. Don't what games at Anfield you've been to but all the times I've been the home fans are completely silent for 90 minutes other than just after a goal. Appreciate it would have been different before it was full of tourists. I have noticed that, and I think it happened before, as well.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 6, 2019 10:47:12 GMT
Ah, the elderly are all right if they agree with you! 😁
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 6, 2019 7:42:41 GMT
Post I made about our best team/formation 5 weeks ago... Davies; Edwards, Collins, Carter-Vickers, McClean; Woods; Etebo, Allen; Powell; Hogan, Gregory. The diamond was working fine, we were playing teams off the pitch & had one of the most shots for & fewest against in the league, we were only being let down by Butland being a liability & finding a way to let the odd shot the opposition did have go passed, through or under him. With us now having Martins-Indi & N'Diaye back we can put them in for McClean & Woods. (Fuck knows what Davies has done behind the scenes either so we'll add Federici in.) Not one of you bastards 'liked' my post either, so I'm now claiming the moral highground of being the only person on here who always had faith in the diamond! I would have liked it if you hadn't got Shirley at left back! 😁 The difference in the quality of passing, anticipation and crossing didn't just coincide with his omission. Think we played well with 3 at the back in the cup when he was left out, too.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 6, 2019 0:07:01 GMT
10 for dropping McClean, alone. I am convinced that and playing 2 up front was the difference.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 5, 2019 23:46:02 GMT
Hopefully he can see that one of the reasons we were better is we had players who could actually cross a ball on the pitch.
Also, the movement, passing and anticipation was much better. There was a reason for this....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 5, 2019 21:48:45 GMT
And Mane dived for the penalty. Fucking VAR!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 5, 2019 21:36:39 GMT
How the fuck was that not a red card?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 5, 2019 19:22:12 GMT
Cracking, surprising win. Shouldn't we be playing like that a lot more often, though? It shouldn't be a rarity with the money we have spent.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 5, 2019 16:29:14 GMT
“First time I’ve been able to pick my first 11” - I’m delighted with the win but fuck off Nath, Jesus Christ! He's persisted with McLean for weeks and it's no surprise we drop him and win. He's responsible for most of the goals. And the lack of them at the other end.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 5, 2019 13:46:28 GMT
Of course they would, they'd be very supportive of that sort of performance, especially against spurs. It's about getting the best out of the players at your disposal. I watched Sheffield United against Liverpool last week and they were a prime example of it, well drilled yet passing quickly with plenty of movement. Brighton were the same against an admittedly dire Spurs. I want a capable manager. Is it too much to ask?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 5, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
You know it's fucked when we can't decipher the formation from the line up! 😁
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