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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2023 19:29:26 GMT
in terms of achievements then yes, but I think you need to look at what's at your disposal Bobby Robson let's face it went into Wc1990 with a pretty wank squad, Gazza wasnt a regular, nor Platt yet got to the semis where we were the best team with players playing out of their skin like Pearce, Parker and Beardsley For that reason it goes Ramsey, Robson then Venables for me We've had "Golden Generations" before and not gone as far as we have under Southgate. Some people haver either short memories or are too young to remember. Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Owen, Rooney, Beckham, Shearer, Cole, Terry, Ferdinand etc. We've had more than enough talent over the past 20+ years (allegedly) and no manager has managed to take us as far as Southgate. And yet we still have "entitled" fans pissing and moaning like spoilt brats. It isn't as simple as shoving the most talented players into the staring eleven. Despite what the "experts" on here think. Southgate has done a brilliant job and should be rightly lauded. He won't, however, by most. They're yearning for the glory years of the past 5 decades...... Ramsay had even better players in the 70s and failed miserably with them as did Revie and Greenwood.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2023 19:24:31 GMT
England are really impressive here.
But of course it cant be anything remotely to do with the manager.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2023 18:05:52 GMT
2 legends of Scottish football doing the punditry tonight. We have Jill Scott and Joe Cole How the hell does Joe Cole get these gigs?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2023 18:01:48 GMT
Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades. Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list. Give your heads a wobble. Could you imagine the length of the threads lambasting Ramsay if the Oatcake had been around in the 1970s? Especially the failure to qualify for the 1974 World Cup with such an abundance of fantastic young English talent available. Charlie George, Alan Hudson, Peter Osgood, Peter Shilton, Martin Peters, Tony Currie, Colin Bell, Trevor Brooking, Alan Ball, Kevin Keegan, Stan Bowles all at their peak so many World class players, yet Ramsay failed to get us to the World Cup. Very poor effort.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 11, 2023 20:59:36 GMT
Portugal edged past Luxembourg Bloody hell...and Luxembourg have been doing well of late, having beaten Iceland 3-1 in their last game. ....and this Portugal win was without Ronaldo.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 11, 2023 18:59:04 GMT
6 minutes gone
Slovakia 3 Liechtenstein 0
1st goal after 10 seconds
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 11, 2023 13:02:21 GMT
I would have been interested to see how those fans who turned up would have reacted if Saudi had scored?
I know it's very easy to be casting stones at others' when there are so many hypocrisies and injustices in the world.
In the end one has to set their own moral compass somewhere (surely?) and then hopefully aim to be as consistent as possible.
Not always that easy in the modern world I suppose.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 11, 2023 12:39:33 GMT
Saw this over the weekend...comedy gold. Yeah me too. This is what happens when you employ clowns who are completely unqualified to do the job in hand. Could you imagine that happening on a real news channel? It's not a News channel though is it? It's just a right wing propaganda mouthpiece out to destroy public broadcasting and cook up a host of divisive conspiracy theories. God knows how sitting MPs like Rees-Mogg and Anderson are allowed to earn on it as presenters. Seems entirely wrong, and another nail in the coffin for democracy in this country.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 20:48:19 GMT
Excellent from Scotland Great to see them back Really???? I'd like to see them lose every game 10-0, same with Wales and Republic of Ireland, fuck em all. I think you've set yourself up for a life of disappointment there.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 20:31:37 GMT
North Macedonia just equalised v Italy
the pitch looks it was prepared for Show Jumping
Final Score 1-1
Italy 9 points behind England with 2 games in hand
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 18:39:29 GMT
Hanley Town beat Cleethorpes in the FA Trophy (2-0) and play the oldest football club Sheffield FC at home in the next round.
Kidsgrove continue their fantastic start to the season with a 6-0 win at Gresley.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 18:32:59 GMT
There is something very perverse and disturbing about seeing young Geordie kids walking about in Saudi Arabia football tops and defending that country. It feels like not too far from child abuse to me.
Shows that sportswashing does actually work.
Yes, there is plenty to criticise on the home front but FFS, proactive support for that regime is just on another level.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 18:20:21 GMT
Sidibe was playing in a really advanced role, almost as the most advanced player. Just got taken off along with about 6 others on the hour mark. how's he doing?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 18:15:02 GMT
A point there is fine.
More sense of self-entitlement from England fans. Any country would be fine with a point there.
We've got a decent squad ok, but we've had fantastic players with bigger reputations before and not won anything.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 15:35:37 GMT
Okagbue got pulled off at half time for Walsall v Salford.
Walsall fans saying he was being ripped apart.
Powell playing for Stockport today and they winning 2-1 at AFC Wimbledon
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 14:36:47 GMT
Agreed - a special era. Despite being a relative nipper at 50 years of age, Ive seen Ray Manzarek and Robbie Krieger do Light my Fire (albeit with Ian Astbury squealing in front of them) David Bowie sing Heroes live, and to be part of the music scene when (perhaps) the Greatest Band of All Time The Beatles got back 'together' in 1996. Love the 1960s and catch every veteran tour going, a highlight would be seeing Bluntstone and Argent sing 'Shes Not There' circa 2001, one of my favourite singles of all time. What will the next generation of fans be able to say? Well what can they say already? The majority of modern music is pretty naff really. A factor for me is that most of the bands stated here can be loosely categorised as Rock bands and I feel that guitar based Rock music probably has a shelf life. It cant go on for ever. Its been 70 years now and its not surprising that the 60s,70s and 80s (to some extent) stand out as a golden period when there was still huge scope for exploration within the genre. What we are seeing now is a few squeezing the last bit of juice out of it, and this accounts for the dearth and frustration. Its the same with what we perceive as conventional songwriting. There are only 12 notes and so many chords (unless you head towards other genres like jazz), more and more songs sound like other songs (hence all the court cases), the only difference between them being production values. Of course other genres will take over, whether you like them or not, and if you are older generation (like me) probably wont, just like my parents couldn't get what I was listening to when I was in my late teens.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 13:13:27 GMT
watching MH's Bradford struggle at home to Grimsby.
If they lose this one, I think MH will come under pressure, its a poor start and its desperate stuff tbh
edit: Bradford equalise 88th min. well worked goal, only bit of coherent football Ive seen from them all game
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 12:19:32 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66745500How the hell did this yob get his touchline ban overturned. Abused a young ref at an under-7s game and then threw punches at a match official who stepped in to protect the young ref. There has got to be strong deterrents against such behaviour.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 8:58:18 GMT
This bloke must be absolutely brilliant in interviews You don't really know do you unless you live and breathe the game. Is this what happens abroad away from the high profile jobs, do the same failed names just keep being regurgitated? You could probably categorise at least 80% of all managers as 'failed'. So its a very small pool. Very few are successful in getting promotions and fewer still achieving successive promotions which is usually the bar for categorising someone as succesful. His record is patchy but a top 2 finish with Oxford and his experience coaching at a higher level is probably enough to get him a League One job. Just try to make a list of successful managers and see how far you get ....and then how many of them are available!
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2023 20:23:58 GMT
Luxembourg have to be one the most improved international teams around.
Beating Iceland 2-0 and will go joint 2nd in their group if results stay like this.
Gone from no-hopers to contenders for qualification.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2023 16:55:45 GMT
Another busy week for us 50 years ago with Stoke languishing next to bottom after 3 games with only 1 point. In the midweek game, Everton were the visitors. They had made only a slightly better start than us and the game was a dire goalless draw. At least it was another point on the board. On the Saturday, we travelled to newly promoted QPR, who like us were seeking their first victory of the season. The home team started brightly and took an early lead only for Geoff Hurst to equalise on the half hour. In the second half we scored two quick goals through Denis Smith and Hurst only to be pegged back late in the game for the second time this season. We had to settle for a 3-3 draw meaning we were still winless after 5 games and hovering just above the relegation zone. Our team was; Farmer, Marsh, Pejic, Mahoney, Smith, Bloor, Robertson, Greenhoff, Hurst, Ritchie, Haslegrave. Conroy replaced Ritchie during the 2nd half. I'm already getting excited at the thought of signing 'you know who'....but don't want to give the game away. I'd forgotten what a poor start it was in what I would describe as one my most memorable seasons.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2023 16:31:50 GMT
A fairly run-of-the-mill song but the sound they make is just fantastic. They really have got their own sound, and that's not a small thing.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2023 15:52:26 GMT
74/75 wasn't it? All a bit faded now but remember Smithy and Robertson breaking legs around then. Mike Pejic, John Ritchie and I think Alan Bloor also broken legs? Jimmy Greenhoff broken nose. Terry Conroy also got a bad injury Injuries cost us the title no doubt about it. Despite this we were so close.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2023 15:48:00 GMT
That is such a huge insult to the memory of John Ritchie. I feel embarrassed to read that.
Post War there really is no competition for him.
He is miles ahead, anyone whoever saw him play will vouch for that and his record speaks for itself.
And where is Terry Conroy? Not an out and out striker (though he could play there) but as much as a striker as Walters or Mama.
Same with Peter Dobing who played upfront when he came and scored 95 goals for Stoke.
Then there is Dennis Violet (66 goals) who my Dad rates as one the finest English inside forwards of his time.
Garth Crooks should be in above some of them too.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2023 14:34:52 GMT
Two years of qualifiers! 18 matches for each side, six teams to qualify this time though with a play off spot available for seventh. Be interesting to see how Bielsa does with Uruguay. Farcical innit, two years of qualifying and potentially only three of the 10 teams don’t end up going anyway It sounds daft. I imagine the 7th team will be playing someone like Fiji to qualify as well. I wonder if there are any incentives for teams to finish higher regarding seedings? Probably 4 wins out of 18 games would get you qualified and that means a lot of meaningless games at the back end of the qualifiers, as well as weakened teams in the later stages too.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2023 13:55:31 GMT
They look 30 years younger on all the billboard stuff on the video, must be old footage - but fair play to them, they're clearly planning on rocking all the way to the grave....I love that attitude. I think the footage being taken from the different Stones' eras is the idea. Loved watching their launch from Hackney yesterday. They are still so cool, yet unpretentious and down to earth which is remarkable for their ages. All power to them. The riff for the song is really good, reminds a bit of the riff in Clash 'Should I stay or Should I Go'?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 7, 2023 21:35:50 GMT
Stevens off at HT. Seemed to be struggling with some kind of injury - but also being tormented a bit by Dembele. Hopefully not injured seriously, or the LB strength will really be tested. calf injury according to Kenny, didnt do that bad tonight he's an injury prone player who hasn't played much and now suddenly playing most games, so unsurprising really.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 7, 2023 20:48:58 GMT
I was only 16 once, it was 1978. What a wonderful song.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 7, 2023 19:45:24 GMT
I really liked this period where there was a crossover between the old and the new. John Peel encapsulated it, I remember John Peel shows where he would be playing Pink Floyd, Wreckless Eric, Althea and Donna, Duane Eddy, Richard and Linda Thompson, The Four Brothers (Zimbabwe), The Desperate Bicycles, King Tubby, Ivor Cutler, The Ruts, Medicine Head, Captain Beefheart, The Ramones, all alongside each other. Bizarre combinations but it really worked. It was truly inspirational for a teenager growing up and certainly opened my mind to the world of music. OGWT was a bit slower to it but got it eventually. Absolutely. I remember John Peel's Festive 50 had Stairway Heaven at number 1 one year and then the following year, out of nowhere, it was Anarchy in the UK! Great times ... peel.fandom.com/wiki/1976_Festive_Fiftypeel.fandom.com/wiki/1977_Festive_Fiftypeel.fandom.com/wiki/1978_Festive_FiftyYep, amazing. There was actually a year in between these 2 year where The Motors (a pub rock band) got top spot where you have both Neil Young and The Rezillos in the Top 10 Technically you are spot on though, because it seems the '77 Festive 50 was picked only by John Peel himself and not through listeners' votes! The 77 was incredibly eclectic though with folk singer June Tabor, Pink Floyd and The Lurkers appearing in there! Even in 78 when Punk really took over Stairway to Heaven is still No.14 and a Van Morrison song from 1968 Astral Weeks is No.21 and of course FreeBird is always somewhere about in these Top 50s The 1977 Festive 50 No.1 (chosen by Peel)
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 7, 2023 15:27:37 GMT
Players do develop, or adapt better to certain leagues and playing environments, so it's not necessarily fair to compare the Joselu at Stoke with the Joselu at Real Madrid.
He struggled at Newcastle too.
Good luck to him.
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