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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 9, 2021 14:10:04 GMT
Now what I don’t understand is certain democratic politicians want to impeach trump What do they hope to achieve It’s not going to heal a nation and is likely to cause even more angst from trump supporters And what for he’s got a few days left wouldn’t it be better to let him slink away as quietly as possible Rather than make him a martyr Some of those senior democrats are nothing short of being as mad as a sack of frogs just the same as trump Because a message needs to be sent that this is not something that will be tolerated. You can’t have the sitting President inciting sedition and committing treason, and the Hyatt be like “it’s all good, he’s only got a few days left”. There will be plenty of much smarter people than Trump (low bar, I know) who are watching this and seeing just how easy it is to rile up these gullible fuckwits like puppets on a string, and we need to make sure a clear message is sent that this shit will not be happening again. Trump band his entire circle of scum need to be made an example of.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 22:56:48 GMT
Great coats as long as you don’t mind the killing of wolves to make them 🤦♂️ Dingle for a nice, warm coat? Sign me up.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 22:52:08 GMT
You'd need a heart of stone not to laugh really.... You can see a list of people already fired from their actions. A lot of people there dumb enough to tag themselves in social media pictures... And yet we still have some genius elected GOP officials claiming it was Antifa that infiltrated the mob and carried out the violence and storming of the Capitol. Matt Geatz (FL) openly made this claim on the house floor last night, and several more ha e chimed in with the same nonsense today. The fucking irony when they scream “fake news” 😁
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 3:20:00 GMT
Hush, son - I’m watching Congress confirm the née President. Who will be warming the seat for Kamala. I’m alright with that. 👍
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 3:06:25 GMT
You’re right. I should know better. It’s hard to have a rational conversation with people who refuse to accept facts. I really should have known better Facts ? lmao. It is very difficult to have a rational conversation with someone whose mind is made up before you enter a conversation with them. Hush, son - I’m watching the Senate confirm the née President.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 2:45:09 GMT
Nobody is removing the evidence. There is none to remove. There was none presented to the highest court in the land, because there is none. “Fact checking” has always been the job of the free press. It’s a key tenant of the democracy in which you chose to live. It’s always been the case and it’s one of the things that separates a democracy from a dictatorship. If that’s the kind of place you wish to reside in, another quick Google search will guide you in the right direction for a few of those places. I’m done being polite to people like you, so with all due respect, go fuck yourself. Come on. You should know better than argue with a Trumper. He's upset as he's got nothing to read for the next 12 hours as his messiah's twitter is suspended. You’re right. I should know better. It’s hard to have a rational conversation with people who refuse to accept facts. I really should have known better
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 2:16:54 GMT
Took less than 5 seconds to type in the following and find hundreds of articles outlining the arrests during and after the BLM protests. “arrests after blm protests” If you’re too dense to use a search engine, or too ignorant to bother trying, that’s on you. I’ve tried doing the same to find evidence of widespread voter fraud and I’m yet to find a single example. I’m also yet to see any of you people provide one. And you know exactly what I mean by “you people”, but I’ll lay it out so you fully understand Dumb, ignorant, brainwashed, simple, fucking morons with no moral compass and zero interest in facts that don’t suit their political agenda. We all clear? You are one hell of rude idiot. I put antifa arrests in the search engine and it came up with nothing other than most arrests were not actually radical leftists. You don't find anything about voter fraud because whether it is true or not fact checkers are removing, but of course you do not believe that because you have your head up your own arse you dumb ass loony liberal. Nobody is removing the evidence. There is none to remove. There was none presented to the highest court in the land, because there is none. “Fact checking” has always been the job of the free press. It’s a key tenant of the democracy in which you chose to live. It’s always been the case and it’s one of the things that separates a democracy from a dictatorship. If that’s the kind of place you wish to reside in, another quick Google search will guide you in the right direction for a few of those places. I’m done being polite to people like you, so with all due respect, go fuck yourself.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 1:52:09 GMT
Quick Google search and you can get yourself educated. I thought you folks didn’t relay on “lamestream” media networks anyway? Your ignorance and hypocrisy is fucking staggering. What do you mean you people ? I did Google it and found nothing. Just like you find nothing concerning a fraudulent election. For your information, I do not watch any TV news. NBC nightly news is on a few nights a week, which what my wife watches. I listen to radio news 30 mins or so a day. Took less than 5 seconds to type in the following and find hundreds of articles outlining the arrests during and after the BLM protests. “arrests after blm protests” If you’re too dense to use a search engine, or too ignorant to bother trying, that’s on you. I’ve tried doing the same to find evidence of widespread voter fraud and I’m yet to find a single example. I’m also yet to see any of you people provide one. And you know exactly what I mean by “you people”, but I’ll lay it out so you fully understand Dumb, ignorant, brainwashed, simple, fucking morons with no moral compass and zero interest in facts that don’t suit their political agenda. We all clear?
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 0:50:22 GMT
Plenty of Antifa and BLM protesters were rounded up and charged during last years protests. It’s Ya’ll Qaeda’s turn now. - and by this time tomorrow, Trump will have been removed from office, so nobody is gonna be handing out pardons. I have never seen that reported across the news networks. Quick Google search and you can get yourself educated. I thought you folks didn’t relay on “lamestream” media networks anyway? Your ignorance and hypocrisy is fucking staggering.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 0:35:51 GMT
They might not go away quietly, but they will go away. Let’s see how big and tough they are when the round-ups start in the morning. Let’s see how “proud” some of these boys really are when they are doing some bird alongside a few fellas from the ‘hood. And a few white Anifa fellas ? Plenty of Antifa and BLM protesters were rounded up and charged during last years protests. It’s Ya’ll Qaeda’s turn now. - and by this time tomorrow, Trump will have been removed from office, so nobody is gonna be handing out pardons.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 0:14:27 GMT
Given your concern about the fairness of the election, or you at all concerned about an angry mob trying to overturn the result of an election that they have yet to prove was unfair? Going round in circles here, the evidence has not be considered. An angry mob is never going to overturn the election, but just like antifa, I don't think that angry mob is going away quietly anytime soon. They might not go away quietly, but they will go away. Let’s see how big and tough they are when the round-ups start in the morning. Let’s see how “proud” some of these boys really are when they are doing some bird alongside a few fellas from the ‘hood.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 7, 2021 0:03:49 GMT
Asking where the police were while Vanilla ISIS stormed the Capitol is a bit like wondering where Miley is while Hannah Montana is up on stage doing her thing.
I’m looking forward to Impeachment 2 - Electric Boogaloo in the morning.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 31, 2020 14:26:49 GMT
How can people have a problem with Lewis Hamilton being knighted? Equalled Schuachers seven world championships and won more races than anyone else ever. I could hazard a guess.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 29, 2020 19:26:37 GMT
No Cousins is a strange one, and Vokes up front is worrying. And then there is Joe Allen. Really hope I’m proven wrong, but I just don’t see how he’s walking straight back into the side. I still dont know what he’s supposed to be. He lacks the discipline to play as a defensive midfielder, and doesn’t have the creativity to be useful as a more attacking force. His main attribute is his energy, but it usually results in chaos. Interesting to see how he looks after such a long lay-off, but I really don’t think he brings anything to the side. Thompson will 'sit' you'd think Allen job is to move the play away from our goal towards their goal quickly without simply hoofing it. I just don’t see either of those things working successfully. Thompson doesn’t look like somebody that can play the sitting role, and while a fully-fit Allen may have the drive to move the ball quickly upfield, his distribution is generally awful, and he gives up possession far too often. I just don’t get the love-in for Allen at all. He’s been ducking awful for 90% of his time here, despite having endless opportunities to shine. I would have preferred to see Mikel back in the side over fully fit Allen, never mind an Allen that hasn’t played a competitive game in months.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 29, 2020 19:10:22 GMT
No Cousins is a strange one, and Vokes up front is worrying.
And then there is Joe Allen. Really hope I’m proven wrong, but I just don’t see how he’s walking straight back into the side. I still dont know what he’s supposed to be. He lacks the discipline to play as a defensive midfielder, and doesn’t have the creativity to be useful as a more attacking force. His main attribute is his energy, but it usually results in chaos. Interesting to see how he looks after such a long lay-off, but I really don’t think he brings anything to the side.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 29, 2020 14:18:50 GMT
I know the source, and still stand by my point. Where did I call 80 million Trump supporters simple-minded fools? Again, you are looking for things that are not there, and that’s part of the problem. I don’t need to refute anything - there is nothing in any of that shit- drivel that is anything more than conspiracy theory. There’s zero evidence being presented on any of the claims. None. The first section that references the swing in vote totals is pathetic. It’s clearly aimed at people who have no intention of fact-checking any of the garbage they are spewing, and a few minutes of research on your part would make that clear. Go spend a few minutes researching that piece alone, and if you can come back and admit it’s utter garbage, I’ll at least know you are open to an intelligent conversation and not just somebody that’s a brainwashed you cultist with no interest in facts that don’t fit your desired narrative. Who are the simple minded you referred to ? . Fact checking? You cannot be serious. The fact checkers, who the hell are they other then a group of folk employed to dispute m, deny and block everything that does not fit the Democrat narrative. Again Nothing has been refuted. You know you can fact-check it yourself, right? You do t ha e to rely on anyone to do it for you. Like I said, simple-minded fools. If the red cap fits....
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 29, 2020 13:16:58 GMT
The Bannon War Room? Well this is off to a good start in terms of credible, reliable sources. I can’t believe I just wasted twenty minutes of my live reading that. It hasn’t been refuted because it isn’t evidence. It’s wild conspiracy theory with zero evidence to support it. If you understand the mechanics of the election (which you clearly don’t), much of this can be debunked with a few minutes of basic research, but I’m assuming you have no interest in actually doing that. It might also help you to try and understand basic legal process, but again - I do t think you have any interest in understanding why this shit hasn’t been given the time of day, even by the most conservative, Trump-appointed judiciary’s. This is pure propaganda for simple minded fools. Nothing to do with Bannon, it Pete Navarro"s report. Ignoring at and say it has got no merit is not refuting it. I think it is very immature of you to call 80 million Trump supporters simple minded fools. I know the source, and still stand by my point. Where did I call 80 million Trump supporters simple-minded fools? Again, you are looking for things that are not there, and that’s part of the problem. I don’t need to refute anything - there is nothing in any of that shit- drivel that is anything more than conspiracy theory. There’s zero evidence being presented on any of the claims. None. The first section that references the swing in vote totals is pathetic. It’s clearly aimed at people who have no intention of fact-checking any of the garbage they are spewing, and a few minutes of research on your part would make that clear. Go spend a few minutes researching that piece alone, and if you can come back and admit it’s utter garbage, I’ll at least know you are open to an intelligent conversation and not just somebody that’s a brainwashed you cultist with no interest in facts that don’t fit your desired narrative.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 29, 2020 13:00:25 GMT
The Bannon War Room? Well this is off to a good start in terms of credible, reliable sources. I can’t believe I just wasted twenty minutes of my life reading that. It hasn’t been refuted because it isn’t evidence. It’s wild conspiracy theory with zero evidence to support it. Much of it doesn’t need to be refuted, because it’s just factually incorrect. If you understand the mechanics of the election (which you clearly don’t), much of this can be debunked with a few minutes of basic research, but I’m assuming you have no interest in actually doing that. It might also help you to try and understand basic legal process, but again - I do t think you have any interest in understanding why this shit hasn’t been given the time of day, even by the most conservative, Trump-appointed judiciary’s. This is pure propaganda for simple minded fools.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 28, 2020 18:58:43 GMT
So nothing then? That clip is fucking hilarious. Imagine thinking that every major law firm in America is turning down hundreds of millions of dollars for a slam-dunk case because they’re concerned about lefty-liberal cancel culture. You’ve got to be kidding me, right? lol. If it was the other way around you along with all liberal democrats would be all over anything that would suggest voter fraud believing all the lies MSM are putting out there. Mate, there is no evidence. Nothing. I’ve asked you several times to show me just one piece of evidence, and you’ve shown nothing. I don’t rely on the mainstream media as a single source for news, but even if I did - what lies are you referring to? Out of interest; do you think that OANN, NewsMax, Breitbart etc. are telling you the truth?
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 28, 2020 3:49:01 GMT
Again - prove one single example of credible evidence. When you are up against this it is not easy. So nothing then? That clip is fucking hilarious. Imagine thinking that every major law firm in America is turning down hundreds of millions of dollars for a slam-dunk case because they’re concerned about lefty-liberal cancel culture. You’ve got to be kidding me, right?
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 24, 2020 0:58:02 GMT
If Jesus Christ appeared with a note from his dad that said the election was 100% fair, Trump fans would scream "Fake news". Some of them probably would. They would ha e the fucker in Gitmo as soon as they they saw his middle eastern complexion 😂
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 23, 2020 22:25:11 GMT
8.
Gave it a decent crack considering the circumstances. We were well beaten in the end, but certainly not embarrassed by a very strong side that could well be challenging for the title this year.
Good experience for the youngsters. Would have loved to see that game with a full house and a full strength side, but it is what it is.
Now it’s back to the main business of battling for points on Satdee.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 23, 2020 19:36:15 GMT
People went to jail because there was evidence. That’s the difference. And people should go to jail for election fraud. And we know at the very least "some" election fraud has taken place. But if it isn't going to be properly investigated then we will never know the true extent of it. That is the problem. A nothing to see here attitude doesn't resolve this issue. It makes it worse. What election fraud has taken place exactly?
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 23, 2020 17:33:26 GMT
I believe most of the court cases have been kicked out for procedural matters and therefore the validity of the actual claims have not even made it to court for their consideration. Its well known fact that courts do not like being dragged into election issues so it serves their interests to not try the cases in the first place. The one area that causes me most concern however is the fact that the percentages of discounted votes in 2016 was massively higher than in 2020. To the extent of 6 or7% in 2016 to less than 1% in 2020 in certain states/cities. That to me is an anomaly that simply has to be investigated. You haven't addressed that point in your response. As I say I have no real agenda here. Trump was obviously a divisive force in America. But having watched 4 years of total anti trump rhetoric coming from 95% of the world wide mainstream media it did make me start questioning what was really going on. Can this man really be as bad as they say he is. I'm not so sure now to be honest and I really don't think Biden is the squeaky clean caring grandad type figure that the media are trying to portray. I mean imagine if Trump had said to a black US citizen "if you don't know if you're voting for me or not then you ain't black" You got to admit it would have been a media feeding frenzy. And there are plenty more Biden quotes I could use that if Trump had said them they would have gone world wide. After 4 years of an attempted impeachment for Russian collusion against Trump for the 2016 election it seems rather odd that with the current irregularities that people are supposed to just let this slide, nothing to see here. I think there is enough to warrant a proper investigation because I think it will damage their democratic process if it doesn't occur. And if the result is trump is full of shyte then great, at least we know. To not do it will leave reasonable doubt and ultimately that is bad for democrats. Edit: You also didn't address the fact that Pennsylvania weeks before the election shoehorned amended legislation through to allow post election date votes to be counted. Seems a bit suspicious to me. Maybe there is a reasonable explanation for it but as yet I haven't heard one. I've also just read somewhere that 46% of Americans think the election was fraudulent and 16% of democratic voters think the same. This compared to 32% of American voters thinking that the 2016 election was interfered with. That alone should say it warrants an investigation considering there has been 4 years and tens of millions spent looking into the 2016 election. They’ve been thrown out for lack of evidence. This. The “evidence” has been reviewed and what little they presented had absolutely no legal standing. They’ve got nothing. Zero. It’s all complete bullshit. I’ve yet to see anyone post a single shred of evidence in here beyond conspiracy theories and vague questions on various things can can be squarely debunked with a quick Google search. The game is up, but the brainwashed cult followers will keep screaming into the void because that’s what cult followers do. I don’t have the time, patience or will to try and have this conversation any more. It’s a pointless exercise to try and debate people who don’t believe in facts, and don’t understand the concept of evidence or legal standing. Some folks are lost in a parallel universe, and they’ve lost all connection with reality. I’m out.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 23, 2020 4:40:40 GMT
Everything in your first two paragraphs has already been litigated in court, or flat out debunked. The big shift in voting overnight on the night of the election was almost all by design. In several of the States where this happened, they are not allowed to count mail-in ballots until all in-person votes have been counted. Democrats attempted to change this process knowing that a huge percentage of the electorate were likely to vote by mail due to COVID concerns, but those efforts were mostly blocked be Republican legislators. Trump spent months telling his base COVID was a massive hoax and pushing everyone to vote in person on the day of the election, which many did. Those votes had to be counted before any mail-in ballots could be worked through, hence the huge early leads in many States. Many Democrats voted by mail (because, you know, science and stuff!) - and once those mail in ballots started to rack up, there was a huge and entirely predictable swing. Nothing remotely suspicious - just basic common sense as to why the early Trump lead was wiped out. The Republicans knew this was going to happen, and milked it as some kind of conspiracy. The nonsense about poll watchers has also been debunked time and time again. If you do a quick Google search for some of the court transcripts from the court hearings regarding this, they are fucking hilarious. One Trump lawyer evaded the question multiple times when asked by the judge if there were poll watchers present during the count, and then finally answered that there were a “non-zero number” of poll watchers present - at which point the judge all but laughed him out of the court. www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/11/trump-lawyers-suffer-embarrassing-rebukes-judges-over-voter-fraud-claims/%3foutputType=ampAs for a thorough review - if there was any credible evidence at all, I would agree with you, but there is fuck all. They’ve got nothing. There have been recounts in several States, most of which resulted in Biden gaining even more votes after the recount. Why the fuck should there be a review of an entire election if there is zero evidence that anything was amiss? It’s not on Biden to prove anything - he won by a decent margin - he doesn’t have to prove anything. . That’s not how litigation works. it’s on Republicans to bring a case if they believe there was some kind of fraud and they’ve got fuck all. This whole circus was pre-planned and was always going to happen when they lost. They don’t want democracy, they want power - and they’re using this whole manufactures shot show to try and delegitimize the incoming administration. They know full well that their Party is finished without Trump, and they’re willing to try anything to slow the collapse.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 23, 2020 4:25:04 GMT
I'm neutral on this. But from the outside looking in I can't help but feel something is amiss. I actually sat up and watched various channels on election night and gave up at about 4.30 am GMT thinking it looks like a bit of a shoe in for Trump and a second term. Waking up the next day to a major turn around was surprising to say the least. Then you look at the various and numerous affidavits regarding irregularities. Poll watchers being removed from voting stations or denied access. State laws being changed late in the day to allow post election day mail in votes for up to 3 days I believe. Pennsylvania I think. Windows being covered at polling stations. Plenty of cases of out of state votes etc. Bizarrely low levels of discounted ballots. I heard in one state the declined ballot percentage went down from 6% in 2016 to less than 1% in 2020. You have to admit that sounds fishy if it is indeed true. All this coupled with what seems to be an attitude of nothing to see here please move on. And a seemingly unwillingness to have a clear and thorough review of what is being claimed does make me feel slightly uneasy about it all. I mean if there really is nothing or not much to see and all that has occurred is the usual odd bit of voter fraud then why not take the opportunity to clear the slate? As I say I have no real skin in the game but I definitely can't conclude that I am satisfied nothing has gone on. Trump is a bit of an ass but I am not certain Biden is any less of one to be fair. Bit of a Sophie's Choice if yoos ask me. Everything in your first two paragraphs has already been litigated in court, or flat out debunked. The big shift in voting overnight on the night of the election was almost all by design. In several of the States where this happened, they are not allowed to count mail-in ballots until all in-person votes have been counted. Democrats attempted to change this process knowing that a huge percentage of the electorate were likely to vote by mail due to COVID concerns, but those efforts were mostly blocked be Republican legislators. Trump spent months telling his base COVID was a massive hoax and pushing everyone to vote in person on the day of the election, which many did. Those votes had to be counted before any mail-in ballots could be worked through, hence the huge early leads in many States. Many Democrats voted by mail (because, you know, science and stuff!) - and once those mail in ballots started to rack up, there was a huge and entirely predictable swing. Nothing remotely suspicious - just basic common sense as to why the early Trump lead was wiped out. The Republicans knew this was going to happen, and milked it as some kind of conspiracy. The nonsense about poll watchers has also been debunked time and time again. If you do a quick Google search for some of the court transcripts from the court hearings regarding this, they are fucking hilarious. One Trump lawyer evaded the question multiple times when asked by the judge if there were poll watchers present during the count, and then finally answered that there were a “non-zero number” of poll watchers present - at which point the judge all but laughed him out of the court. As for a thorough review - if there was any credible evidence at all, I would agree with you, but there is fuck all. They’ve got nothing. There have been recounts in several States, most of which resulted in Biden gaining even more votes after the recount. Why the fuck should there be a review of an entire election if there is zero evidence that anything was amiss? It’s not on Biden to prove anything - he won by a decent margin - he doesn’t have to prove anything. . That’s not how litigation works. it’s on Republicans to bring a case if they believe there was some kind of fraud and they’ve got fuck all. This whole circus was pre-planned and was always going to happen when they lost. They don’t want democracy, they want power - and they’re using this whole manufactures shot show to try and delegitimize the incoming administration. They know full well that their Party is finished without Trump, and they’re willing to try anything to slow the collapse.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 23, 2020 3:53:02 GMT
Again - prove one single example of credible evidence. You have your head in the sand if you are denying voter fraud and voting irregularities never happened. The extent of it is just not clear. Barr admitted that it happened but in his opinion it was not enough to change the outcome of the election. The simple fact they will not allow an audit of the Dominion voting machines in the battleground states is a huge red flag to me, what is there to hide? Allowing the machines to be audited only to discover there was no voter fraud would absolutely destroy Trump, and to think that is not what any Trump hating Democrat would want, then you are out of touch with what is going on. Nancy Pelosi who epitomizes the spirit of all who suffer from TDS, said today that she would drag him out of the WH by his hair, little hands and feet, so no evidence in the Dominion voting machines would be like Trump being crucified to her and all who suffer from TDS. The same Dominion that just filed a defamation suit against the Trump campaign, Rudy Guilliani, Sydney Powell and a slew of the conservative media platforms who have been peddling the baseless conspiracies, causing several of them to issue retractions? That Dominion? www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/fox-news-newsmax-air-statements-debunking-voter-fraud-claims-they-pushed-on-air-01608595049I’ll ask you again - show me one piece of credible evidence. You’ve got nothing but conspiracy theories, fella.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 22, 2020 12:59:05 GMT
Just because Trump tweeted it, or OAN said it, does not means it’s true. Seriously mate, you are being fed absolute garbage and chowing down on every word of it. As for voter fraud, you one single example of credible evidence? They’ve been laughed out of just about every court in the land because there is zero evidence. In most cases, they have even admitted as much. The spout all of these ludicrous theories at every opportunity the media gives them, but as soon as they’re in a court of law and under threat of perjury, they don’t bring any of them to the floor - because they know it’s all complete bullshit. Wrong, nothing has been refuted, just ignored. You can't argue your stand with @all your sources are wrong and mine are right". Again - prove one single example of credible evidence.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 21, 2020 12:44:02 GMT
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 21, 2020 12:31:13 GMT
Clearly I had misread the situation. My apologies. So what do you make about Trump's effort to make voting harder in areas that were typical Democrat-leaning areas? To be honest with you that is the first I've heard of it, do you have some link that I could take a look at ? That’s not strictly a Trump tactic - Republicans have been doing this for decades, but this administration ramped it up with some fun new ways of trying to suppress the vote. If course, you won’t hear anything about that on OAN or Newsmax. news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/29/stacking-the-deck-how-the-gop-works-to-suppress-minority-voting/
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