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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 22:12:23 GMT
I might be wrong but the “coward callers” seem to be a relatively new phenomenon? There’s also plenty of: “Out of his depth” deep sea diver merchants making a return after the last couple of games too. They are bold, know their depths and they’ll be getting a group together… It won’t be long before the “New Amigos” are donning snorkelling gear and Kenny Rogers masks…. As they sit behind the dug out to serenade SS in Spanish… I take it you didn't see the message board after the 0-5 defeat at home to Leicester then? Many have rightly been highlighting he's out his depth for pretty much the entirety of his time at Stoke. Results, signings, team selections, tactics and performances prove that. I don't know how it can be denied. Doesn't make him a coward.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 22:11:07 GMT
Yes, brilliant. Everything in his favour to make a success of the job. How did he do at Sheff Utd? How long does he stay in jobs? I'm not backing anyone and I'm all for change if it makes us better. Nobody has yet to come up with a viable alternative. So he's had some shitters. Big deal? What good experienced championship managers haven't had a few bad jobs along the way? At least you're giving the situation a chance by appointing someone who has succeeded at this level as opposed to handing out to someone who has both not proven himself capable at this level while progressively on a week by week basis proving his incompetence. The old "there's no one better out there" rubbish makes no sense. Why do you think the likes of West Brom and Norwich are so much better than us? They've both got managers we could have had if we wanted. So you think we just could have gone out and got those managers if we wanted? Didn't we approach Jokanovic a few years ago and he turned us down? Obviously there are good managers out there, Are they viable for Stoke City and the clueless John Coates?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:56:52 GMT
I like him but I'm not sure tbh. I think he's a decent manager but at stoke we need someone high calibre who will inspire some real commitment from everyone around the playing squad. Someone who will help players improve. For all his faults Pulis did that. We need someone who will command respect and get players to buy in to a clear plan. We have no idea if schumacher could be this kind of person. If we are to keep him for next season, a lot of hard work needs to be done to get rid of 10-12 of the current squad and back him to get the type of player he wants Which is exactly what Pulis did. Struggled, chopped and changed, scraped staying up. Then shaped his squad when given the chance.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:52:18 GMT
Is that the best you can come up with? A bloke who failed miserably in his last job in this league three years ago and hasn't worked for a year. A bloke who got Watford promoted and got Fulham promoted playing arguably the best football the league has ever seen. You make it sound like he did this 20 years ago. But you think it's more sensible to back a guy who has zero Championship experience, barely any management experience and has somehow made an already shit Stoke side, even shitter? Yes, brilliant. Everything in his favour to make a success of the job. How did he do at Sheff Utd? How long does he stay in jobs? I'm not backing anyone and I'm all for change if it makes us better. Nobody has yet to come up with a viable alternative.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:43:28 GMT
A proven Championship manager that isn't British? Who? Someone who has a track record of championship success. Jokanovic? Is that the best you can come up with? A bloke who failed miserably in his last job in this league three years ago and hasn't worked for a year.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:37:00 GMT
Win and we’ll be safe. No messing around let’s just play our best side. With a weeks rest he can’t come up with this excuse around fitness. Iverson Stevens Mcnally Rose Hoever Thompson Burger Laurent (one day he might have a good game) Manhoef Campbell Bae Best side? We haven't got one. People are losing their minds.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:33:10 GMT
He's painfully out of his depth and I'm not sure what else he needs to do to confirm he isn't the one to take a forward. We'll probably scrape it but why the fuck should he keep his job come May 4th? It's been absolutely turgid stuff under Schumacher. He's got no idea what his best team is, two appalling signings that were never going to improve us and tactics/substitutes that make Nathan Jones look sane. It's now got that bad that we've got some celebrating a point (despite being played off the park) at a side 23rd in the championship. We should stay up but he's so obviously not the answer. Get through this horrible season, get him out and invest heavily in a proven Championship manager. Dare I say it, one that isn't British for a change. A proven Championship manager that isn't British? Who?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:14:05 GMT
More of the 'coward' stuff. Pathetic shite, honestly. I'm all for criticism where it's due and a lot of it is, but coward? Get to fuck.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 12, 2024 10:02:10 GMT
ppl say this every year , the managers needs his own players , it’s bollocks , come december he will be sacked and we start the whole process again Yes, it's a big part of the problem. Manager's are given far too much leeway when they inherit another manager's squad. Look at Danny Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday. His first proper managers job, even less experienced than Schumacher, never managed in this country before yet he's turned a squad of failing League One players around at a club run by a mentalist. They will be relegated. I do agree Managers are given too much leeway. You have to agree though that the players we signed over the summer by Neil and his chronies have been awful, bar 2.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2024 9:31:38 GMT
The owners.
A series of bad decisions nigh on a decade.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2024 8:09:16 GMT
The reason he can't pick his best side is because we don't have one,too many players who are just not up to the job,if he picked our best 11 players to start,8 or 9 of them would be playing out of position. That’s what January was for A decade of bad recruitment, a summer of complete overhaul yet you want StS to completely transform the team and squad in one window after being here for 10 minutes. OK.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 10, 2024 21:30:08 GMT
Inevitable knicker wetting from people who haven't the first clue. We'll stay up and kick on next season. StS is here for the long run, pipe down and get used to it. I hope he’s sacked immediately after Bristol City. If he’s here for the long run we’re in for a long stint in lower leagues. So if it’s ok I’ll continue to agitate and worry that we look like relegation fodder. Cundle & Ennis deary me Hope away. It isn't happening.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 10, 2024 21:27:57 GMT
Not tonight Albert. Miles off mate. We got what we deserved. No doubt in the end BUT we were denied a clear goal. Goals change games and mindsets.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 10, 2024 21:24:53 GMT
Inevitable knicker wetting from people who haven't the first clue.
We'll stay up and kick on next season.
StS is here for the long run, pipe down and get used to it.
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Mmaee
Apr 9, 2024 14:12:16 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Apr 9, 2024 14:12:16 GMT
Has he broke a finger nail?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 9, 2024 11:40:36 GMT
I love Walters and he speaks very well but taking my rose tinted glasses off he's massively inexperienced. It may well work out but on paper this is another poor decision by Jon Coates. On the positive side nobody will work harder than Walters and he's always been an over achiever so it's not like there is no hope. I still think we should have gone for someone like MON who has been a manager and would be more equipped to deal with another manager/Coaches needs. Having someone like Walters to work with someone like MON would have been the best way in my opinion. How can it be a poor decision if it works out?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 8, 2024 11:13:53 GMT
Videgal scoring the rebound after penno saved initially when is the last time we did that? Can't remember, could be decades Ask Charlie Adam
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 8, 2024 9:42:37 GMT
Stevens needs moving on, he's fit for a quarter of the season. Thompson i'd keep as he offers decent cover.
We need better first team quality in most areas to get us challenging nearer the top of the table.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 8, 2024 8:33:47 GMT
Nothing wrong with thrashing arms about in frustration at the match. A bit of full-on passion is what we have desperately needed. Fergi and Klopp don't seem to have suffered from expressing passion. He's got passion, the club at heart, apparently he has the qualifications, and he's a communicator. Very best wishes and good hunting JW. I think with our owners there is a lot wrong with it. John is clearly a passionate Stoke fan and he clearly needs a cool, calm head around him just like Peter was. This 'pashun' thing is really overrated in football. What works, and certainly works upstairs is cold and calculated decision making, and not some young buck out to make a name for himself by running around hitting the proles on the shop floor and shouting at the fans like a crazed seal. Schumacher himself is only very young still. Clearly has talent as a coach and manager but this is a huge job, and as has been admitted by many more experienced managers a very strange and tough job. I think the clever move and play here by the owners would be a very experienced man (a Hodgson, Allardyce or even a Warnock or Pulis) as a consultant type sat between Walters and Schumacher in and around the boardroom to advise and coach both people, and even John too. Both of our key people clearly have talent, qualifications and in Walter's a knowledge of the club and the area but neither have the experience to ride out difficult times, and for me that is never overrated in football. Walters doesn't strike me as a bloke who goes OTT. He always appears calm and measured. He also seems hungry for the job which can only be a good thing. It's clear that him and StS have struck up a good working relationship really quickly and the experience they are going through now i.e. riding out a difficult time will only stand them in good stead. To me he's the man for the job. Bringing in any of the names above would be a retrograde step in my opinion.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 5, 2024 11:15:28 GMT
Why we can't afford to take Rashford ... What a waste of talent. Pointing to his team mates as well.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 5, 2024 11:14:27 GMT
So if you were a manager who was told to fuck off every day and not participate in training like the rest of the squad (extreme example obviously). You would say that player is playing because I believe he’s better than the rest of you? That wouldn’t go down very well would it and the rest of the squad will think fuck you. Like I said, you’d lose the dressing room pretty quick over favouring one player that didn’t pull their weight We literally did it with one of my favourite players. If they were that good then yes I would do it. And I’d like to think if I was one of the others who wasn’t as good then I’d totally understand why. It happened every now and again and he was cut some slack, probably like a lot of well performing players under any good manager. Just don't hear about it. It wasn't happening 'literally' every day.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2024 13:01:02 GMT
Easier for an ex pro to deal with young players as at least he can back up what he's saying as the young players will be aware of the managers career. Can't see a spotty FIFA nerd commanding the same respect when the tough words need saying. But again that’s a terrible mindset imo. And shows my point. Break the mould. Go and earn yourself tens of millions. But you can't be arsed. You've no idea what it takes to make a career in professional football. Zero.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2024 12:52:29 GMT
Why don't you break the mould then lad? Because I can’t be arsed to deal with close minded wankers. ??? K
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2024 12:50:20 GMT
It’s not though is it. It’s what football management is. There’s absolutely no reason why it has to be an ex pro. Bar that’s what the ex pros say and everyone believes them. Why don't you break the mould then lad?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2024 12:46:40 GMT
Some real keyboard footballers on here who know more than Schumacher .......or not!! It still amazes me that people actually put football managers on a pedestal. The more I see of them, the more I’m convinced it’s just a racket contrived to keep former players in the game and they convince everyone that no one can do better and it’s this self perpetuating myth that no one ever tries to break or if they do, the players who know they won’t have a career after they’re 35 don’t work with anyone because they’re not from a football background. And the cycle continues of really mediocre to poor people on the merry go round that is football management. A real closed book. Lol, what bollocks.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2024 10:39:19 GMT
Right man for the job
Walters spent the entirety of his Stoke playing career proving people, including yours truly, wrong. I'm sure he'll do the same in this new role and do an excellent job.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 3, 2024 20:47:42 GMT
What a footballer.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 3, 2024 20:42:11 GMT
Foden again demonstrating this evening, that his best position is by far and away as a number 10. He's absolute quality. World class.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 3, 2024 20:38:43 GMT
No Alex Neil or Ben Pearson on the list?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 3, 2024 14:46:33 GMT
Lack of goals at home really needs addressing, and his starting line-up against Huddersfield was more for an away game. We need to dominate at home, expect more possession of the ball against a deeper defence. We just dont have enough creativity in the team apart from attempting to get it out wide for a cross into the box. I would try Bae as a 10 at home with Manhoef and Haks/Vidigal on the wings with Mmae or Campbell through the middle. Laurent playing as the number 10 is simply never going to create enough. I doubt we will see that kind of line-up in the remaining games at home though. I agree that we should be more attacking at home but expecting to dominate is fanciful. We're in a relegation battle because we're a bit shit.
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