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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 11, 2024 6:55:22 GMT
It’s not all on Schumacher but he has to take some responsibility.
The rot set in at the start of the relegation season and there’s plenty that played there part and yes there is one consistent but who’s responsible this season.
As a percentage I’d say
Neil - 30
Schumacher - 15
Martin - 20
Dublin - 10
The board - 5
The players - 20
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Post by spoton on Apr 11, 2024 7:10:01 GMT
It’s not all on Schumacher but he has to take some responsibility. The rot set in at the start of the relegation season and there’s plenty that played there part and yes there is one consistent but who’s responsible this season. As a percentage I’d say How does Walters not get a mention Neil - 30 Schumacher - 15 Martin - 20 Dublin - 10 The board - 5 The players - 20 |
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Post by southcoaststokie on Apr 11, 2024 7:14:44 GMT
Schumacher should not be that high, did you see our bench last night, the whole squad are crap, but sometimes in this league you can get away with crap as long as you put the work in, unfortunately we have a squad of fannies that can’t play in the rain
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Post by rowleyscfc on Apr 11, 2024 7:22:55 GMT
It’s not all on Schumacher but he has to take some responsibility. The rot set in at the start of the relegation season and there’s plenty that played there part and yes there is one consistent but who’s responsible this season. As a percentage I’d say Neil - 30 Schumacher - 15 Martin - 20 Dublin - 10 The board - 5 The players - 20 Martin- 50%, 5 pillars of shit, commissioned the Tymon transfer knowing we didn't have time to find a suitable replacement Niel- 20%, signed his mates, we looked down and out before he was sacked Players-20%, don't have no shame in the way they preform, never dish out bollockings, standards are on the floor Schumacher-5%, come in turned the tide slightly, probably didn't realise how poor of a squad we had assembled, defo got things wrong but find it hard to criticise a workman who's tools are blunt Board-5%, the only thing they truly got wrong was backing Neil and Martin, so suppose that actually equates to 75% of the blame |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 11, 2024 7:26:21 GMT
Schumacher should not be that high, did you see our bench last night, the whole squad are crap, but sometimes in this league you can get away with crap as long as you put the work in, unfortunately we have a squad of fannies that can’t play in the rain Isn’t part of his job to motivate though? They just didn’t look up for it from the go last night despite it being a huge game. |
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Post by march4 on Apr 11, 2024 7:28:23 GMT
And still the transfer guru remains in post.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Apr 11, 2024 7:29:22 GMT
It’s not all on Schumacher but he has to take some responsibility. The rot set in at the start of the relegation season and there’s plenty that played there part and yes there is one consistent but who’s responsible this season. As a percentage I’d say Neil - 30 Schumacher - 15 Martin - 20 Dublin - 10 The board - 5 The players - 20 How do you put the board at 5%? They are the only consistent in 8 years of absolute nonsense. Even I've had enough of them and that's saying something. That performance last night and seeing Walters sat on Coates' knee was about the final straw,the bloke is a fucking idiot. |
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Post by thornestein on Apr 11, 2024 7:29:24 GMT
It’s not all on Schumacher but he has to take some responsibility. The rot set in at the start of the relegation season and there’s plenty that played there part and yes there is one consistent but who’s responsible this season. As a percentage I’d say Neil - 30 Schumacher - 15 Martin - 20 Dublin - 10 The board - 5 The players - 20 for me Neil 30-% SS 30% JC 40% |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 11, 2024 7:32:15 GMT
John Coates - 100
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Post by southcoaststokie on Apr 11, 2024 7:34:14 GMT
Schumacher should not be that high, did you see our bench last night, the whole squad are crap, but sometimes in this league you can get away with crap as long as you put the work in, unfortunately we have a squad of fannies that can’t play in the rain Isn’t part of his job to motivate though? They just didn’t look up for it from the go last night despite it being a huge game. Of course it is, but when a couple of decisions go against you, you need character, leadership on the pitch, something we don’t have, |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 11, 2024 7:38:23 GMT
Isn’t part of his job to motivate though? They just didn’t look up for it from the go last night despite it being a huge game. Of course it is, but when a couple of decisions go against you, you need character, leadership on the pitch, something we don’t have, Fair point though after seeing Laurent’s interview after last nights game he’s totally the wrong person to be captain (which appears to guarantee him 90 mins every week). We are short of players with passion but I’d put Burger, Stevens and even Thompson ahead of him and of those injured Pearson too. |
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Post by bloodtypered on Apr 11, 2024 7:39:38 GMT
Ricky Martin
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 11, 2024 7:41:36 GMT
John Coates 100
It can't be anything else. It's his club, run his way. None of the employees at the club employ themselves. They are literally hand picked by Coates.
That shot on TV last night of him hanging on Walter's every word was downright embarrassing. A new Technical Director with 6 months experience.
Joke.
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 11, 2024 7:48:18 GMT
John Coates 100 It can't be anything else. It's his club, run his way. Non of the employees at the club employ themselves. They are literally hand picked by Coates. That shot on TV last night of him hanging on Walter's every word was downright embarrassing. A new Technical Director with 6 months experience. Joke. His look of bewilderment last night pissed me off a fair bit….it’s all on him🔴⚪️ |
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Post by southcoaststokie on Apr 11, 2024 7:53:45 GMT
Of course it is, but when a couple of decisions go against you, you need character, leadership on the pitch, something we don’t have, Fair point though after seeing Laurent’s interview after last nights game he’s totally the wrong person to be captain (which appears to guarantee him 90 mins every week). We are short of players with passion but I’d put Burger, Stevens and even Thompson ahead of him and of those injured Pearson too. I totally agree, he has everything to be a good player, size, skill, but doesn’t want to use any of it, we need a leader, was actually pleased that Thompson looked like he was giving Vidigal a roasting last night, we are just a bunch of fannies, when Hoever got badly fouled, it could of been a red, why were not all our players in the other players and the referee’s face, why did not one player complain about the penalty, as it was obviously outside the box, because they are gutless |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2024 7:57:21 GMT
The owners 100%
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 11, 2024 7:58:34 GMT
I was labouring under the impression that it was the fans fault?
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Post by bagnallboothen on Apr 11, 2024 8:02:21 GMT
I was labouring under the impression that it was the fans fault? It partially is for accepting the bollocks that's going on. The call to arms from Walters and whatever other shit he's come out it. We've been utterly pathetic for as long as I can remember, he should be coming out and saying I can't believe anyone turns up at all nevermind you need to sing more. |
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 11, 2024 8:07:24 GMT
I was labouring under the impression that it was the fans fault? It partially is for accepting the bollocks that's going on. The call to arms from Walters and whatever other shit he's come out it. We've been utterly pathetic for as long as I can remember, he should be coming out and saying I can't believe anyone turns up at all nevermind you need to sing more. I can't believe fans sucked all of that shite up to be honest. Proper chest beating bullshit that just wasn't needed. Talk about reading the room incorrectly, then leaving yourselves with nowhere else to go. What do they do now after a performance like last night? Come back begging for more? "Please sir, can we have some more claps for the weak one's?" Pathetic. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 11, 2024 8:13:20 GMT
Fair point though after seeing Laurent’s interview after last nights game he’s totally the wrong person to be captain (which appears to guarantee him 90 mins every week). We are short of players with passion but I’d put Burger, Stevens and even Thompson ahead of him and of those injured Pearson too. I totally agree, he has everything to be a good player, size, skill, but doesn’t want to use any of it, we need a leader, was actually pleased that Thompson looked like he was giving Vidigal a roasting last night, we are just a bunch of fannies, when Hoever got badly fouled, it could of been a red, why were not all our players in the other players and the referee’s face, why did not one player complain about the penalty, as it was obviously outside the box, because they are gutless This. Patterson should have seen red there even if the second foul on Burger wasn’t deemed a red he blatantly wasted time when we were trying to get the ball back quickly so should have had a yellow for that and a second for the foul. The sticking out of the tongue summed it up perfectly he was a walking red card so we should have been trying to wind him up to get a second yellow yet he was taking the piss and we just didn’t seem to care. Of course it doesn’t help when you have a totally incompetent ref. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 11, 2024 8:14:09 GMT
Most recently? Ricky Martin and Alex Neil
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Apr 11, 2024 8:25:34 GMT
Coates.
How anyone can say any different during our time in this shit league is beyond me.
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Apr 11, 2024 8:46:06 GMT
Yep as others have said the board are 100% to blame. Shit rolls downhill after all
Ask yourself this - if you owned a business and continually employed incompetent staff and numpties who’s fault would that be??
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 11, 2024 8:48:19 GMT
The buck stops with the owners, end of story.
But if you had to pick one other person it would still be Gary Rowett, his pathetic attempts at spending £50m set us back 4/5 years........
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Post by pavel on Apr 11, 2024 9:06:45 GMT
The board 100%, they are the constant factor in all these years of decline. They tinker with the processes but no real change really happens because they basically don't have a workable plan or the football nous to get to the root of the problem even when it's staring them in the face.
The appointment of John Walters (whether he turns out to be the right or wrong man for the job) epitomises the lazy arsed, clueless and sticking plaster approach to running the club, nothing is joined up from top to bottom, it's just a patchwork quilt of individuals with no overall strategy or cohesion, just like the team.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 11, 2024 9:18:45 GMT
Most recently? Ricky Martin and Alex Neil Neil left an absolute mess and hopefully be put right by August with a new look team He was a F- earthquake of a manager |
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 11, 2024 9:24:08 GMT
The owners 100% as it should be in any business, if you consistently recruit poorly from the top down then expect the results to be poor.
People seem to praise how much the owners “invest” in the club. It’s nothing to be praise worthy about, it’s just money in one bad investment after another.
Ironically they run the club like a gambling addict, keep chucking money at the problem hoping it will eventually pay off.
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 11, 2024 9:26:48 GMT
Every managerial and behind the scenes appointment since we were relegated have either been massively overrated and dull or completely under qualified and lack experience.
But hey JC likes his staff the same way I like my beer. British born.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2024 9:31:38 GMT
The owners.
A series of bad decisions nigh on a decade.
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Post by Gods on Apr 11, 2024 9:32:39 GMT
We've never been quite the same since the storm which took down the corner of the Butler Street stand roof.
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