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Post by OldStokie on Oct 12, 2009 12:33:27 GMT
She was the wrong person at the right time. *My dancing clogs are highly polished for the day she pops hers. OS.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 12, 2009 12:36:00 GMT
She was the wrong person at the right time. *My dancing clogs are highly polished for the day she pops hers. OS. I'm writing to ask them to put a ramp on the grave so I can join you
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 12, 2009 12:43:12 GMT
I hope she lives to be well over 100.
And suffers every fooking second of that time.
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Post by hoekofneverland on Oct 12, 2009 12:54:34 GMT
Quote mumf " Scargill will forever hold more respect than Thatcher will ....without a doubt. " Yeah, to the remaining peasant communists we have hiding under the rocks and still living in the past. ;D
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Post by redstriper on Oct 12, 2009 14:23:40 GMT
I was working for British Coal at their Cannock computer centre at the time of the strike. My job was to write software to analyse the amount of time the cutting equipment actually spent cutting coal during a shift. I installed this software at many pits in the uk during the early eighties.
The truth (however hard mumf may wish to ignore it) is that there were less than a dozen pits at the time which had any viability whatsoever. This was not the fault of any one group, government or otherwise, it was mainly down to geology, out-dated work practices, under investment, and the fact that in some countries open cast coal was costing a tenth of the amount to extract.
The miners were misled by their own unions, who, by refusing to have ballot, lost public support (and the support of some of the regions). The closures were accellerated by the unions actions.
It's bizarre to see it happening again with the postal workers union, who also seem to be refusing to live in the real world.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 12, 2009 14:44:15 GMT
two key phrases ther kiler - mumf and real world
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Post by mumf14 on Oct 12, 2009 18:28:53 GMT
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2009 18:36:48 GMT
She was the wrong person at the right time. *My dancing clogs are highly polished for the day she pops hers. OS. So who else had the balls (no pun intended) to face the jackboot unions and the argies, not Jim and Dennis and co surely?
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Post by mumf14 on Oct 12, 2009 18:42:46 GMT
You obviously either don't appreciate or accept the reasons why unions were set up in the first place.
I could explain each one, but I not in the mood for history lessons.Read the above and get back to me.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 12, 2009 19:58:07 GMT
mumf in sep 2002 i came from from 6 months tour of bosnia, i was looking forward to a nice well earned holiday with my family that had been paid for 6 months in advance i had to cancel it because of this cunt unions my arse
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Post by mumf14 on Oct 12, 2009 20:07:51 GMT
mumf in sep 2002 i came from from 6 months tour of bosnia, i was looking forward to a nice well earned holiday with my family that had been paid for 6 months in advance This would not have been possible if I'd have had to negotiate my own pay rise. I think your're absolutely spot on for once...Mumf Your're right. You were right about Tony Pulis....and your're right about the Tories...Basstuurds the lot of them.They've brainwashed us squaddies like they'll do to the rest of the British public. Thanks Salop for those kind words.It takes a big man to admit that he's wrong. mumf
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2009 20:16:35 GMT
You obviously either don't appreciate or accept the reasons why unions were set up in the first place. I could explain each one, but I not in the mood for history lessons.Read the above and get back to me. I understand the reasons why mumf and accept they can do some good for the workers, but what they were getting up to in the 70's and early 80' had gone beyond reasonable practice. I work with union members, some very reasonable and some very unreasonable, these are the ones who hide behind some little bit of power and try and quote H&S and try to frighten people, every one who's tried to do that I've managed to point them into the error of their ways. Even now within our company as we try to save money and 1,200 people looking to lose their jobs, these people are moaning about the change of vending suppliers, all our drinks vending machines are free drinks, and they still fooking moan that they weren't "consulted" as the FM's found cheaper suppliers.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 12, 2009 20:16:58 GMT
mumf in sep 2002 i came from from 6 months tour of bosnia, i was looking forward to a nice well earned holiday with my family that had been paid for 6 months in advance This would not have been possible if I'd have had to negotiate my own pay rise. I think your're absolutely spot on for once...Mumf Your're right. You were right about Tony Pulis....and your're right about the Tories...Basstuurds the lot of them.They've brainwashed us squaddies like they'll do to the rest of the British public. Thanks Salop for those kind words.It takes a big man to admit that he's wrong. mumf god loves a comedian there is negotiating your own pay deal and there is holding the country to ransom, good job there we were there to step in again i bet you were taking woodbines and flasks down the picket line you really are the salt of the earth
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2009 20:20:29 GMT
She was the wrong person at the right time. *My dancing clogs are highly polished for the day she pops hers. OS. So who else had the balls (no pun intended) to face the jackboot unions and the argies, not Jim and Dennis and co surely? "Jackboot Unions" WTF? ??? Incidentally, history has proven that Thatcher went against the advice of the majority of her cabinet and military advice and opted to send the forces to the South Atlantic, despite their being non aggressive solutions available. This she did as her popularity was at rock bottom, safe in the knowledge that her gung ho actions would gain majority support with the daily mail and sun reading gullible British public. I bet she's still laughing about that one now.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2009 20:21:20 GMT
She was the wrong person at the right time. *My dancing clogs are highly polished for the day she pops hers. OS. I'm writing to ask them to put a ramp on the grave so I can join you Oi....join the queue you two....
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2009 20:24:17 GMT
So who else had the balls (no pun intended) to face the jackboot unions and the argies, not Jim and Dennis and co surely? "Jackboot Unions" WTF? ??? Incidentally, history has proven that Thatcher went against the advice of the majority of her cabinet and military advice and opted to send the forces to the South Atlantic, despite their being non aggressive solutions available. This she did as her popularity was at rock bottom, safe in the knowledge that her gung ho actions would gain majority support with the daily mail and sun reading gullible British public. I bat she's still laughing about that one now. Glad she did, there were a few thousand british people who were enslaved and being held hostage by an invading aggressor, what would you have done, flown supplies into the argies? The junta were never going to back down
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Post by mumf14 on Oct 12, 2009 20:28:01 GMT
So who else had the balls (no pun intended) to face the jackboot unions and the argies, not Jim and Dennis and co surely? "Jackboot Unions" WTF? ??? Incidentally, history has proven that Thatcher went against the advice of the majority of her cabinet and military advice and opted to send the forces to the South Atlantic, despite their being non aggressive solutions available. This she did as her popularity was at rock bottom, safe in the knowledge that her gung ho actions would gain majority support with the daily mail and sun reading gullible British public. I bet she's still laughing about that one now. Spot on mate, and Thatcher was also warned 12 months previously about Argetina's plans to invade from our own intelligence service.She chose to ignore ....thus 'creating' the right circumstances for Argentinas 'invasion'. It was more of a good public relations exercise with her low rating in the polls. She won the next election...Quelle surprise..!
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2009 20:31:14 GMT
"Jackboot Unions" WTF? ??? Incidentally, history has proven that Thatcher went against the advice of the majority of her cabinet and military advice and opted to send the forces to the South Atlantic, despite their being non aggressive solutions available. This she did as her popularity was at rock bottom, safe in the knowledge that her gung ho actions would gain majority support with the daily mail and sun reading gullible British public. I bet she's still laughing about that one now. Spot on mate, and Thatcher was also warned 12 months previously about Argetina's plans to invade from our own intelligence service.She chose to ignore ....thus 'creating' the right circumstances for Argentinas 'invasion'. It was more of a good public relations exercise with her low rating in the polls. She won the next election...Quelle surprise..! bullshit, the argies had been saying that for 150 years, and are still saying it now, selective thinking again
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Post by scfcrmagic on Oct 12, 2009 20:32:54 GMT
Agree with Northwich on this one ...The unions were set up for the right reasons...but then the power went to the head of a few...as it often does....the unions started to try to control the country by holding us to ransom...like the posties who always manage to go on strike at christmas every bleeding year.....bit predictable now.....Maggie Thatcher had the bottle to stand up to the unions ....somebody had to..
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Post by mumf14 on Oct 12, 2009 20:35:57 GMT
Northwich....Well you'd better believe it because it's true.!
Mr Knott admitted this a few months after the war finished along with several admissions in the press regarding what information MI5 passed on.
There was a Panorama program on this subject too.
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2009 20:44:46 GMT
Northwich....Well you'd better believe it because it's true.! Mr Knott admitted this a few months after the war finished along with several admissions in the press regarding what information MI5 passed on. There was a Panorama program on this subject too. I may have missed it, there wasn't a TV signal in the south atlantic never mind, you were cosy in good old blighty behind your blinkers
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2009 20:50:01 GMT
"Jackboot Unions" WTF? ??? Incidentally, history has proven that Thatcher went against the advice of the majority of her cabinet and military advice and opted to send the forces to the South Atlantic, despite their being non aggressive solutions available. This she did as her popularity was at rock bottom, safe in the knowledge that her gung ho actions would gain majority support with the daily mail and sun reading gullible British public. I bat she's still laughing about that one now. Glad she did, there were a few thousand british people who were enslaved and being held hostage by an invading aggressor, what would you have done, flown supplies into the argies? The junta were never going to back down Ah yes, fuuny how they were completely ignored by the Witch until it suited her needs, eh?
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2009 20:56:39 GMT
Glad she did, there were a few thousand british people who were enslaved and being held hostage by an invading aggressor, what would you have done, flown supplies into the argies? The junta were never going to back down Ah yes, fuuny how they were completely ignored by the Witch until it suited her needs, eh? and the spineless wonders who went before her eh? However the argies hadn't invaded our territory before had they, a slight fact you seem to have forgotten that was the needs of the british citizens who had been invaded, not Maggie, labour lefties at their best, confused with the hard facts but like talking about it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2009 21:16:27 GMT
Ah yes, fuuny how they were completely ignored by the Witch until it suited her needs, eh? and the spineless wonders who went before her eh? However the argies hadn't invaded our territory before had they, a slight fact you seem to have forgotten that was the needs of the british citizens who had been invaded, not Maggie, labour lefties at their best, confused with the hard facts but like talking about it. Hard facts? How about the fact that there was a diplomatic solution that she chose to ignore? How about the fact that she ordered the sinking of a ship that was PROVEN to be no threat and was sailing away from the exclusion zone? How about the fact that no one knew or gave a flying fcuk about the Falklands until the Witch decided to use it to her political advantage? You can't argue with history mate, shame she covered it up under the 20 year rule.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 12, 2009 21:25:57 GMT
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that not only did Thatcher have some intel on Argentinian intentions in the year before the Falklands invasion, but she also withdrew some ships from that area prior to the invasion. Atlas of the world design for all you Tories
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2009 21:32:16 GMT
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that not only did Thatcher have some intel on Argentinian intentions in the year before the Falklands invasion, but she also withdrew some ships from that area prior to the invasion. Atlas of the world design for all you Tories True but never let the facts get in the way of a good old rant ;D
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Post by salopstick on Oct 12, 2009 21:35:24 GMT
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that not only did Thatcher have some intel on Argentinian intentions in the year before the Falklands invasion, but she also withdrew some ships from that area prior to the invasion. Atlas of the world design for all you Tories ;D ;D ;D
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Post by salopstick on Oct 12, 2009 21:37:24 GMT
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that not only did Thatcher have some intel on Argentinian intentions in the year before the Falklands invasion, but she also withdrew some ships from that area prior to the invasion. Atlas of the world design for all you Tories ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tassiepotter on Oct 12, 2009 23:24:00 GMT
Wtf? news to us down here, where interest rates have gone up because of the strength of the dollar and public spending. This on top of both major parties saying we are not in recession... Nice to hear it from the horse's mouth tassie ;D and I don't mean your a Van Nistleroy Well March4? Was that pure lies just to try and discredit the woman who dragged this country from the nadir of union jackboots and the 3 day week? Just to clarify though, I was commenting on the state of things down here, not on the bitch... As a lad from a mining family, I will not bat an eye when she finally departs this planet, really can't be bothered to debate it either as it has been done to death and its all about personal opinions, but just for my 2 cents worth, I would not have voted for Brown, I would be even less likely to vote for Cameron. Also, we have got some good trade unions down here as well. which is right up my street ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 13, 2009 2:46:53 GMT
I hate Unions and I hate Thatcher ;D
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