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Post by hoekofneverland on Oct 9, 2009 22:55:27 GMT
Maggie didn't make the underclass of today. They made themselves surely? We are all in charge of our own lives. They just make the rules and guidelines that we work to. Her rules worked well for me, so why not anyone else? I'll tell you, because there are too many sitting on their arses waiting for hand outs off the workers of the country What do we have now? A government that agree with throwing money at the lazy. Now the lazy wont go work at all because the handouts are better than earning it have ten kids and live like a lord without ever going to work and each one of those kids grow up to think the same way Labour have done some good stuff but, they are far too soft on the plebs They are breeding laziness throughout our society This Country needs firm control whether we like it or not. There's no easy rides, life is hard and the only way you should reap the benefits is when you've earned them. i promised i wouldn't get involved in this, damn you mermaid ;D I no its a bit naive. Like i say i don't know much about politics but, i do know that do gooding the scum of this country is not the answer and there is alot of scum whether you like it or not. Iron Lady forever
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Post by bash62 on Oct 9, 2009 22:58:19 GMT
Mumf and HLF wishing death on somebody else eh? ;D Is that only a banning offence if they are a Stoke player perhaps? In the interests of political balance I would also happily kick Tony Bliar repeatedly in the bollocks ;D you cant do that duck he has screwed you the country and dun a runner with a pocket full of cash but we had it good under labour ,no jobs unless you are not a brit ,drugs out of control and thats just in our childrens schools ,and country ,crime and more crime ,and every day a brit gets shot in afganistan and nobody gives a fuk in the usa and the british goverments oil war .at least maggie sorted the falklands in a quick wam bam why is afganistan taking so long because goverments are making money your money ?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2009 23:04:09 GMT
Maggie didn't make the underclass of today. They made themselves surely? We are all in charge of our own lives. They just make the rules and guidelines that we work to. Her rules worked well for me, so why not anyone else? I'll tell you, because there are too many sitting on their arses waiting for hand outs off the workers of the country What do we have now? A government that agree with throwing money at the lazy. Now the lazy wont go work at all because the handouts are better than earning it have ten kids and live like a lord without ever going to work and each one of those kids grow up to think the same way Labour have done some good stuff but, they are far too soft on the plebs They are breeding laziness throughout our society This Country needs firm control whether we like it or not. There's no easy rides, life is hard and the only way you should reap the benefits is when you've earned them. i promised i wouldn't get involved in this, damn you mermaid ;D I no its a bit naive. Like i say i don't know much about politics but, i do know that do gooding the scum of this country is not the answer and there is alot of scum whether you like it or not. Iron Lady forever No point turning this onto a Tory v Labour, they are quire simply as bad as each other. They are allowed to get away with it because people can't be arsed to vote or get active.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2009 23:07:01 GMT
In the interests of political balance I would also happily kick Tony Bliar repeatedly in the bollocks ;D you cant do that duck he has screwed you the country and dun a runner with a pocket full of cash but we had it good under labour ,no jobs unless you are not a brit ,drugs out of control and thats just in our childrens schools ,and country ,crime and more crime ,and every day a brit gets shot in afganistan and nobody gives a fuk in the usa and the british goverments oil war .at least maggie sorted the falklands in a quick wam bam why is afganistan taking so long because goverments are making money your money ? With respect Duck, that's bollocks
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Post by bash62 on Oct 9, 2009 23:07:25 GMT
she stopt the miners gowin on strike in the bitter winter months thats what she did the miners took the piss she fukt you .the miners were on good money but got greedy . and just for good measure you had a load of scabs . Ok, sorry she didn't stop the Miners going on strike I have no idea what you mean by that. The miners held out through the "bitter winter months while she organised imported coal. Hundreds of Police officers paid off their mortgages during that strike thanks to the overtime they got, thousands of Miners lost theirs. Does that seem right to you? the miners went on strike in 74 ish ? for weeks in a bitter winter no lights , fire , that was fun ?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 9, 2009 23:07:48 GMT
Who do you vote for though?
They're all shite!
I voted for Libertas in the local elections - No idea why though!
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Post by hoekofneverland on Oct 9, 2009 23:09:07 GMT
Maggie didn't make the underclass of today. They made themselves surely? We are all in charge of our own lives. They just make the rules and guidelines that we work to. Her rules worked well for me, so why not anyone else? I'll tell you, because there are too many sitting on their arses waiting for hand outs off the workers of the country What do we have now? A government that agree with throwing money at the lazy. Now the lazy wont go work at all because the handouts are better than earning it have ten kids and live like a lord without ever going to work and each one of those kids grow up to think the same way Labour have done some good stuff but, they are far too soft on the plebs They are breeding laziness throughout our society This Country needs firm control whether we like it or not. There's no easy rides, life is hard and the only way you should reap the benefits is when you've earned them. i promised i wouldn't get involved in this, damn you mermaid ;D I no its a bit naive. Like i say i don't know much about politics but, i do know that do gooding the scum of this country is not the answer and there is alot of scum whether you like it or not. Iron Lady forever No point turning this onto a Tory v Labour, they are quire simply as bad as each other. They are allowed to get away with it because people can't be arsed to vote or get active. Im sure you'll spot a few posts already that have done just that. But it wasn't meant in that way so i'm sorry .
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2009 23:10:57 GMT
Ok, sorry she didn't stop the Miners going on strike I have no idea what you mean by that. The miners held out through the "bitter winter months while she organised imported coal. Hundreds of Police officers paid off their mortgages during that strike thanks to the overtime they got, thousands of Miners lost theirs. Does that seem right to you? the miners went on strike in 74 ish ? for weeks in a bitter winter no lights , fire , that was fun ? It was great, I learned how to play whist and rummy...by candlelight ;D FYI Ted heath was PM then not thatcher....
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Post by march4 on Oct 9, 2009 23:11:12 GMT
Thatcher took all investment from schools and hospitals, meaning there has had to be massive spending on new buildings in the last 10 years - money that could have been spent elsewhere. She gave the money to Toffs, just as the Eton trio (Boris, Cameron & Gideon Osborne) will do.
Thatcher made being a doleite and a single mother acceptable. Up until then the shame attached to either condition meant it was frowned upon by society.
What Thatcher did do was remove the cancer known as the Unions from British society. We are much better off without that bunch of cretins.
On balance, Thatcher did some good, but her economic policies were disasterous and brought Britain to its knees. She not only borrowed way more money from the IMF that the previous Labour Government, she also sold off the national housing stock and nationalised industries to pay out as dole money. The country has only just repaid that debt.
A deliberate policy of making more than 3million of your fellow countrymen unemployed is unforgiveable in my book.
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Post by hoekofneverland on Oct 9, 2009 23:12:19 GMT
Who do you vote for though? They're all shite! I voted for Libertas in the local elections - No idea why though! " Libertas " who does she vote for ;D Too be honest since the great Gal herself has gone i've only voted Ukip
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2009 23:12:52 GMT
No point turning this onto a Tory v Labour, they are quire simply as bad as each other. They are allowed to get away with it because people can't be arsed to vote or get active. Im sure you'll spot a few posts already that have done just that. But it wasn't meant in that way so i'm sorry . me too, not aimed at you, apologies
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Post by bash62 on Oct 9, 2009 23:13:45 GMT
you cant do that duck he has screwed you the country and dun a runner with a pocket full of cash but we had it good under labour ,no jobs unless you are not a brit ,drugs out of control and thats just in our childrens schools ,and country ,crime and more crime ,and every day a brit gets shot in afganistan and nobody gives a fuk in the usa and the british goverments oil war .at least maggie sorted the falklands in a quick wam bam why is afganistan taking so long because goverments are making money your money ? With respect Duck, that's bollocks ARE YOU SURE were is tony liar now ,he should be in the same place as my mate 21 year old private cutts from mansfield .
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 9, 2009 23:14:46 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2009 23:16:32 GMT
With respect Duck, that's bollocks ARE YOU SURE were is tony liar now ,he should be in the same place as my mate 21 year old private cutts from mansfield . Making a fortune form the private speaking circuit and advising industry for silly money. Bit like Thatcher and John Major, so what's your point duck ???
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Post by hoekofneverland on Oct 9, 2009 23:19:05 GMT
Almost the same policies as Cameron. Is that right?
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Post by bash62 on Oct 9, 2009 23:19:10 GMT
Who do you vote for though? They're all shite! I voted for Libertas in the local elections - No idea why though! libs , the rest are liars in it for there own means ,two cars ,two houses expences anything they can get its time for change . we run this country we vote ?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 9, 2009 23:21:49 GMT
Almost the same policies as Cameron. Is that right? I've always thought the tories right wing yes! ;D
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Post by bash62 on Oct 9, 2009 23:22:25 GMT
the miners went on strike in 74 ish ? for weeks in a bitter winter no lights , fire , that was fun ? It was great, I learned how to play whist and rummy...by candlelight ;D FYI Ted heath was PM then not thatcher.... but the fukin miners took the piss and not for the first time or the last until maggs had a go she killed the unions .
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 9, 2009 23:22:40 GMT
Who do you vote for though? They're all shite! I voted for Libertas in the local elections - No idea why though! libs , the rest are liars in it for there own means ,two cars ,two houses expences anything they can get its time for change . we run this country we vote ? As much as I like the Lib Dems I just can't take them seriously.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2009 23:22:58 GMT
Who do you vote for though? They're all shite! I voted for Libertas in the local elections - No idea why though! libs , the rest are liars in it for there own means ,two cars ,two houses expences anything they can get its time for change . we run this country we vote ? Trouble is Debs, we don't. WE vote yes, however not enough do. And voting alone isnt enough anymore. If you want real change you and thousands more need to become active, organise and campaign.
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Post by march4 on Oct 9, 2009 23:25:49 GMT
With respect Duck, that's bollocks ARE YOU SURE were is tony liar now ,he should be in the same place as my mate 21 year old private cutts from mansfield . Blair has his place in history as our greatest peacetime Primeminister since Victorian times. No Primeminister had managed low unemployment and inflation before. He managed to pay off all of the country's debts dating back to the 2nd World War and the IMF. He set aside enough money to rebuild every single school and hospital in the country. He brought about peace in Northern Ireland, a feat that had escaped every previous Primeminister. He presided over Britain's change from an industrial society to a service/finance society without any of the civil unrest associated with previous changes to the structure of society. He also changed the face of modern diplomacy by using force to dislodge immoral regimes in other countroes, thus establishing the UK and USA as the world's policemen ( this will see him venerated for centuries in world politics). His final triumph is just months away when he will become the first President of Europe.
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Post by bash62 on Oct 9, 2009 23:27:56 GMT
ARE YOU SURE were is tony liar now ,he should be in the same place as my mate 21 year old private cutts from mansfield . Making a fortune form the private speaking circuit and advising industry for silly money. Bit like Thatcher and John Major, so what's your point duck ??? i thought blair might be in a tunnel in france .
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Post by bash62 on Oct 9, 2009 23:37:42 GMT
ARE YOU SURE were is tony liar now ,he should be in the same place as my mate 21 year old private cutts from mansfield . Blair has his place in history as our greatest peacetime Primeminister since Victorian times. No Primeminister had managed low unemployment and inflation before. He managed to pay off all of the country's debts dating back to the 2nd World War and the IMF. He set aside enough money to rebuild every single school and hospital in the country. He brought about peace in Northern Ireland, a feat that had escaped every previous Primeminister. He presided over Britain's change from an industrial society to a service/finance society without any of the civil unrest associated with previous changes to the structure of society. He also changed the face of modern diplomacy by using force to dislodge immoral regimes in other countroes, thus establishing the UK and USA as the world's policemen ( this will see him venerated for centuries in world politics). His final triumph is just months away when he will become the first President of Europe. and allowed two IRA men a seat in goverment that takes the piss out of every person that was killed by that scum every person blown up in a pubs ,shopping centres,mums out with there kids ,well done tony liar and what about lady di .
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Post by march4 on Oct 9, 2009 23:40:31 GMT
Making a fortune form the private speaking circuit and advising industry for silly money. Bit like Thatcher and John Major, so what's your point duck ??? i thought blair might be in a tunnel in france . Debs, I think you are missing the point of joining the army. You fight for your country whether that is in Ireland, the Falklands, the Balkans, the Middle East or Central Africa. If the Queen tells you to fight, thats what you do. Should the world stand by and allow despotic regimes to subject its own people to genocide and threaten its neighbours. No it shouldn't, but unfortunately there are only 2 countries with the military muscle to do anything about it us and the USA. It isn't a pleasant job, but it has to be done. We will invade Iran as soon as all of the troops have left Iraq, we have no choice or do you want another dangerous regime to become strong enough to really threaten us? We all feel the difficulties of our soldiers keenly, but my great grandfather was not looked after when he fought in India and my grandfather was very bitter about his treatment by the authorities in the 1st World War. Our soldiers rightly complained about poor equipment in Ireland and the Falklands. A soldier's lot is a very difficult one - they have never been paid enough, equiped sufficiently or valued by politicians. It is wrong, but it has never been any different.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 9, 2009 23:45:14 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2009 23:46:04 GMT
Blair has his place in history as our greatest peacetime Primeminister since Victorian times. No Primeminister had managed low unemployment and inflation before. He managed to pay off all of the country's debts dating back to the 2nd World War and the IMF. He set aside enough money to rebuild every single school and hospital in the country. He brought about peace in Northern Ireland, a feat that had escaped every previous Primeminister. He presided over Britain's change from an industrial society to a service/finance society without any of the civil unrest associated with previous changes to the structure of society. He also changed the face of modern diplomacy by using force to dislodge immoral regimes in other countroes, thus establishing the UK and USA as the world's policemen ( this will see him venerated for centuries in world politics). His final triumph is just months away when he will become the first President of Europe. and allowed two IRA men a seat in goverment that takes the piss out of every person that was killed by that scum every person blown up in a pubs ,shopping centres,mums out with there kids ,well done tony liar and what about lady di . Not forgetting the Unionist terrorists who murdered innocent Catholics either Debs ok?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 9, 2009 23:46:39 GMT
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Post by march4 on Oct 9, 2009 23:52:10 GMT
Blair made peace with the IRA - a lasting peace. Most of the world's great leaders of the 20th Century were once classed as terrorists and imprisoned by the British. A negotiated peace requires negotiations and concessions from both sides. They give up their arms and stop killing people and we let terrorists out of prison and allow the people of Northern Ireland free elections to choose their MPs. Sounds like a fantastic deal for the people of Britain to me and ensures Blair's greatness for many centuries.
Blair made running the country look easy. If it was so easy, why can't Major or Brown do it?
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Post by salopstick on Oct 10, 2009 6:27:42 GMT
Blair made peace with the IRA - a lasting peace. Most of the world's great leaders of the 20th Century were once classed as terrorists and imprisoned by the British. A negotiated peace requires negotiations and concessions from both sides. They give up their arms and stop killing people and we let terrorists out of prison and allow the people of Northern Ireland free elections to choose their MPs. Sounds like a fantastic deal for the people of Britain to me and ensures Blair's greatness for many centuries. Blair made running the country look easy. If it was so easy, why can't Major or Brown do it? although the negotiatons were taking place before 2001 it was 9-11 that finally brought peace in northern ireland how could britain with the yanks wage war on terror and terrorists if they did not practice what they preached on their door step sinnfein and the other groups realised this and got he best deal they could
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Post by truckerged on Oct 10, 2009 10:51:16 GMT
100% agree sal i believe that evil bitch did irreparable damage to our fine nation, it is a result of her policies that we find ourselves in the shit were in today. and when the tories get in next year which they surely will given the media campaign i truthfully fear for myself and other working class families from our area!!
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