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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2009 8:11:48 GMT
This is very surprising. He is very close to Steve Holland though so it might have some legs.
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Post by RAF on Jun 23, 2009 8:48:45 GMT
Let's hope those legs are more reliable than Ashton's.
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Post by chellheathpotter on Jun 23, 2009 8:50:33 GMT
I heard dean ashton was close to signing yesterday afternoon, i work with a bloke who's son works for talksport and he had a phone call yesterday afternoon saying ashton was close to signing.
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Post by stan on Jun 23, 2009 9:29:24 GMT
Apologies if this has already been asked, but is it known whether Ashton is fit? Would he be able to participate in pre-season training?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 23, 2009 9:34:36 GMT
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Post by stan on Jun 23, 2009 9:39:18 GMT
Thanks. If he is fit (for however long!), he'd be a tremedous signing, clearly. I can't see it happening, though, to be honest. It's more likely that most of our summer signings will be players not being mentioned (although, given we are linked with so many, that could be difficult ).
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Post by nantwichstokie on Jun 23, 2009 9:40:00 GMT
Speaking to friends of Deans last night and it is claimed tone has spoken to him and assurred him we will match West Hams wage.
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Post by Ursemboy on Jun 23, 2009 9:44:42 GMT
What a tremendous signing if he can stay fit.
England international and talk of £15m bids rejected before!
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Post by RAF on Jun 23, 2009 9:47:46 GMT
Absolutely, would almost be as good a signing as that ex-Juventus star, what was his name now Victor Prescott or something? H
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Post by Platty on Jun 23, 2009 9:49:20 GMT
were all questioning ashtons knees yet at the same time we dnt giv a shit about fullers knees, who by all accounts cnt pass even the simplest of stokes medicals
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Post by Funky on Jun 23, 2009 9:53:48 GMT
were all questioning ashtons knees yet at the same time we dnt giv a shit about fullers knees, who by all accounts cnt pass even the simplest of stokes medicals Didn't Fuller have a few seasons of playing out on loan though before we signed him?
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Jun 23, 2009 9:54:51 GMT
Speaking to friends of Deans last night and it is claimed tone has spoken to him and assurred him we will match West Hams wage. This is what doesn't add up for me - davesviews gave the impression that we're looking at a complicated deal incorporating some sort of pay-as-you-play aspect. As far as I know the wages at west ham are rather high and have been for a few years now (kieron dyer for example is reported to be on £70k a week) and ashton signed for £7.25m only three years ago, so you'd have to think that he's a part of that highly paid group and is on ~£50k? So why would he want to move to stoke? It doesn't seem to make financial sense for him as if he gets injured again at west ham he's still getting paid. He's not exactly frozen out of the team, surely he'll be back in the mix if he gets fit. West ham fans love him, and we're a sideways move at best. What's there to motivate ashton? A fresh scene? Steve Holland?
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Post by RAF on Jun 23, 2009 9:55:06 GMT
We did give a shit at the time TP was signing Fuller though, it was a risk and a fairly cheap risk that came off. Ashton on the other hand is a different ball game altogether especially where cash is concerned.
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Post by Platty on Jun 23, 2009 9:56:42 GMT
im talkin currently dipshit
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Post by RAF on Jun 23, 2009 9:59:44 GMT
When you stop talking text speak you thick little cunt we might understand you better. OK?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 23, 2009 10:00:48 GMT
Speaking to friends of Deans last night and it is claimed tone has spoken to him and assurred him we will match West Hams wage. This is what doesn't add up for me - davesviews gave the impression that we're looking at a complicated deal incorporating some sort of pay-as-you-play aspect. As far as I know the wages at west ham are rather high and have been for a few years now (kieron dyer for example is reported to be on £70k a week) and ashton signed for £7.25m only three years ago, so you'd have to think that he's a part of that highly paid group and is on ~£50k? So why would he want to move to stoke? It doesn't seem to make financial sense for him as if he gets injured again at west ham he's still getting paid. He's not exactly frozen out of the team, surely he'll be back in the mix if he gets fit. West ham fans love him, and we're a sideways move at best. What's there to motivate ashton? A fresh scene? Steve Holland? I think this is a very good point PB, somet I've been thinking about too. I'm pretty sure that Ashton signed a new deal just 12 months ago, and I just can't get my ahead around him being prepared to move unless we match his current money from the off. Stoke offering him a complicated pay as you play/score deal doesn't seem, on the face of it, to make (from Ashton's point of view) any sense to me.
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Post by Platty on Jun 23, 2009 10:01:47 GMT
i think u maybe the thick cunt considering u cnt understand some txt tht misses a few letters, its nt tht difficuly tbf
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Post by Beardy200 on Jun 23, 2009 10:03:35 GMT
i think you maybe the thick cunt considering you cnt understand some txt tht misses a few letters, its nt tht difficuly tbf More difficult than it is for you to just put them in
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Post by Platty on Jun 23, 2009 10:05:23 GMT
only if ur slow on the fuckin uptake
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 23, 2009 10:06:55 GMT
This is what doesn't add up for me - davesviews gave the impression that we're looking at a complicated deal incorporating some sort of pay-as-you-play aspect. As far as I know the wages at west ham are rather high and have been for a few years now (kieron dyer for example is reported to be on £70k a week) and ashton signed for £7.25m only three years ago, so you'd have to think that he's a part of that highly paid group and is on ~£50k? So why would he want to move to stoke? It doesn't seem to make financial sense for him as if he gets injured again at west ham he's still getting paid. He's not exactly frozen out of the team, surely he'll be back in the mix if he gets fit. West ham fans love him, and we're a sideways move at best. What's there to motivate ashton? A fresh scene? Steve Holland? I think this is a very good point PB, somet I've been thinking about too. I'm pretty sure that Ashton signed a new deal just 12 months ago, and I just can't get my ahead around him being prepared to move unless we match his current money from the off. Stoke offering him a complicated pay as you play/score deal doesn't seem, on the face of it, to make (from Ashton's point of view) any sense to me. There's loads of things about West Ham being willing to sell, the fee they're apparently willing to accept, Stoke being able to attract him, Ashton being willing to come and no bigger clubs being in the hunt that wouldn't appear to make any sense at all on the face of it. But no doubt it'll all come out in the wash. Let's just hope, from our point of view, they don't involve a huge financial gamble on his ankle.
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Post by RAF on Jun 23, 2009 10:08:04 GMT
What is that text speak for?
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You see as I don't really do text speak I thought your 'dnt' could have meant 'didn't' for a start
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Post by Platty on Jun 23, 2009 10:09:52 GMT
wuldnt kno tbh, maybe difficulty
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Post by RAF on Jun 23, 2009 10:11:49 GMT
So to recap, and stop me if I'm not learning this correctly.
Means,' it's not that difficulty tbf?'
Makes perfect sense!
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Post by serpico on Jun 23, 2009 10:13:07 GMT
If he's just got married perhaps he wants to start a family close to his roots ? Stoke is a ideal club for him, we're in the premier league and on the up, close to his family, will be able to pay him a decent wage and offer him first team football (pending his fitness), and it's world cup year, he no doubt still harbors some hope of playing for England, if he signs for us and starts banging the goals in he'll get on Capellos radar . He might just want a fresh start at a new club, and it looks like west ham have to sell him.
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Post by stokie25 on Jun 23, 2009 10:13:16 GMT
Clean your keyboard, platty, then the vowels might work
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Post by RAF on Jun 23, 2009 10:15:18 GMT
If only! Beattie didn't even get a sniff!
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Post by nantwichstokie on Jun 23, 2009 10:16:57 GMT
This is what doesn't add up for me - davesviews gave the impression that we're looking at a complicated deal incorporating some sort of pay-as-you-play aspect. As far as I know the wages at west ham are rather high and have been for a few years now (kieron dyer for example is reported to be on £70k a week) and ashton signed for £7.25m only three years ago, so you'd have to think that he's a part of that highly paid group and is on ~£50k? So why would he want to move to stoke? It doesn't seem to make financial sense for him as if he gets injured again at west ham he's still getting paid. He's not exactly frozen out of the team, surely he'll be back in the mix if he gets fit. West ham fans love him, and we're a sideways move at best. What's there to motivate ashton? A fresh scene? Steve Holland? I think this is a very good point PB, somet I've been thinking about too. I'm pretty sure that Ashton signed a new deal just 12 months ago, and I just can't get my ahead around him being prepared to move unless we match his current money from the off. Stoke offering him a complicated pay as you play/score deal doesn't seem, on the face of it, to make (from Ashton's point of view) any sense to me. I agree with your posts to a point. Having said that it is impossible for us to ever know the full ins and outs of Deans situation and what Stoke would be prepared to offer so debate is based on very little. All I can offer is what I have been told from reliable sources. Personally if Stoke were to attract a player of Deans quality we would have to gamble and match what he is on now. In Stokes favour would be the fact that Dean is from Holmes Chap with family and friends all based locally. He has just got married and had his first kiddie. If ever he wanted to settle back towards home, would playing for Stoke in the Premier after his career has gone stale represent this chance?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 23, 2009 10:17:55 GMT
If he's just got married perhaps he wants to start a family close to his roots ? Stoke is a ideal club for him, we're in the premier league and on the up, close to his family, will be able to pay him a decent wage and offer him first team football (pending his fitness), and it's world cup year, he no doubt still harbors some hope of playing for England, if he signs for us and starts banging the goals in he'll get on Capellos radar . I'm not saying that he hasn't, but where has all this 'he's just got married' stuff come from? If you type Dean Ashton wedding, Dean Ashton bride, Dean Ashton honeymoon, Dean Ashton wife etc. into Google, it's comes up with nothing. Indeed anything that has come up seems to be people suggesting he's gay! ???
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Post by Ursemboy on Jun 23, 2009 10:18:22 GMT
Platty You'd be good on Countdown, 9 consonants please Rachel.
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Post by henry on Jun 23, 2009 10:20:59 GMT
If he's just got married perhaps he wants to start a family close to his roots ? Stoke is a ideal club for him, we're in the premier league and on the up, close to his family, will be able to pay him a decent wage and offer him first team football (pending his fitness), and it's world cup year, he no doubt still harbors some hope of playing for England, if he signs for us and starts banging the goals in he'll get on Capellos radar . I'm not saying that he hasn't, but where has all this 'he's just got married' stuff come from? If you type Dean Ashton wedding, Dean Ashton bride, Dean Ashton honeymoon, Dean Ashton wife etc. into Google, it's comes up with nothing. Indeed anything that has come up seems to be people suggesting he's gay! ??? have you tried googling dean ashton civil ceremony ;D
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