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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 26, 2009 12:58:47 GMT
I'd go for Cisse personally. At the start of the season he was on fire and I think a falling out with Sbragia has tailed he form off somewhat. Marseille are looking to sell and Pulis was definitely interested in the summer, so maybe a perm signing for around £6 million I think Cisse would be completely realistic, if we were prepared (and we'll probably have to) alter our wage structure. Furthermore hasn't he publicly expressed a desire to be based in Cheshire (isn't his wife's business here?). If Martins and he did become available in the close season then I think Cisse would be a much more likely prospect, although of course I'd prefer the former.
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Post by PickSCFC on Mar 26, 2009 13:13:09 GMT
there is no chance of signing Martins Paul Spencer
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Post by Danstoke82 on Mar 26, 2009 13:18:42 GMT
I would say if we stayed up and Cardiff dont make an auto spot or playoff promotion then it is very likely that Joe Ledley may come in. TP never gives up on a target.
Whats the calls for Joe Hart? He is a decent young keeper but I think Sorro has been immense so far and wouldnt want to see him replaced just yet.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Mar 26, 2009 13:20:01 GMT
Werent the 'Arse look at Martins early in the season?. If the Toon were to go down, you would imagine there would be a few names in for him, he's a decent player.
I wouldn't mind Cisse at all, think he would fit our system perfectly.
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Post by PickSCFC on Mar 26, 2009 13:20:39 GMT
I would say if we stayed up and Cardiff dont make an auto spot or playoff promotion then it is very likely that Joe Ledley may come in. TP never gives up on a target. Whats the calls for Joe Hart? He is a decent young keeper but I think Sorro has been immense so far and wouldnt want to see him replaced just yet. Exactly, Joe Hart is a YOUNG goalkeeper
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 13:21:40 GMT
I would say if we stayed up and Cardiff dont make an auto spot or playoff promotion then it is very likely that Joe Ledley may come in. TP never gives up on a target. Whats the calls for Joe Hart? He is a decent young keeper but I think Sorro has been immense so far and wouldnt want to see him replaced just yet. Exactly, Joe Hart is a YOUNG goalkeeper So?
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Post by Danstoke82 on Mar 26, 2009 13:24:57 GMT
He is a young keeper, but why replace Sorro at the moment? he's been outstanding so far. I dont think our goalkeeping area needs to be fixed at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 13:25:48 GMT
He is a young keeper, but why replace Sorro at the moment? he's been outstanding so far. I dont think our goalkeeping area needs to be fixed at all. Goalkeepers tend to get better with experience anyway. They don't hit their peak until they're 33/34. I think we're fine in the goalkeeping department.
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Post by lordb on Mar 26, 2009 13:27:16 GMT
I think we DO need a keeper to at least compete with Sorenson even if its the season after before whoever the younger & more mobile guy is takes over.
its not as priority as the other positions we all seem to agree on though.
suspect we will be looking at the Afro-French market again.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Mar 26, 2009 13:29:45 GMT
Definately some wing backs maybe, although then you have the arguement of where to put Higgy. Wilko has been solid enough on the right, but I wouldnt be flustered if we brought in a new right back.
Maybe a centre midfielder, to put a bit of pressure on Salif. Other than that, Im not sure. If we were to flog Kitson, Cresswell oh and Pericard at the end of the season and bearing in mind, Camara heading back, a striker would be a decent shout.
Sorro
NEW PLAYER Abdy Faye Shawcross Higgy / NEW PLAYER?
Lawrence Whelan / NEW PLAYER? NEW PLAYER? Etherington
Beattie Fuller / NEW PLAYER?
Im stuffed because we have strengthened really well this season.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Mar 26, 2009 13:30:14 GMT
I think we DO need a keeper to at least compete with Sorenson even if its the season after before whoever the younger & more mobile guy is takes over. its not as priority as the other positions we all seem to agree on though. suspect we will be looking at the Afro-French market again. But surely Simmo is adequate back-up?
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Post by lordb on Mar 26, 2009 13:36:08 GMT
Simmo is a good champiosnhip keeper imho. Sorro is a keeper who is prem class but is physically on the slide,when keepers start to lose mobility its time to think about a new one.
I dont want to over emphasize this point as Sorro isnt at deaths door or owt & certainly will do a job next year but if we want to 'push on' we will be needing a younger man.
we could do with someone as suggested above 'explosive' to compete with Liam too.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 26, 2009 14:50:14 GMT
Maybe a centre midfielder, to put a bit of pressure on Salif. You meant replace there, didn't you mate?
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 26, 2009 15:25:55 GMT
Maybe a centre midfielder, to put a bit of pressure on Salif. You meant replace there, didn't you mate? Salif will be replaced by Guiriame N`Daw from nantes in the summer
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 26, 2009 17:50:45 GMT
I'd put Whelan very much in the "competition" bracket as well. Invaluable squad player, but still question his consistency - not sure long-term he's the answer. I have, and always have had a feeling that Whelan may well turn out to be a real star. He's gradually improved as he's settled into the team and with a Prem class player alongside him, just as Shawcross has Ab, he might just surprise a few people, esspecially those that wrote him off as 'not good enough' just weeks into his Stoke career.
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Post by jarhead on Mar 26, 2009 18:01:12 GMT
Huddlestone Hyphia Foster-season loan? Cisse Nolan or Butt
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Mar 26, 2009 18:15:25 GMT
gifton noel williams lewis neal karl henry russel hoult paul williams
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 18:17:48 GMT
I'd put Whelan very much in the "competition" bracket as well. Invaluable squad player, but still question his consistency - not sure long-term he's the answer. I have, and always have had a feeling that Whelan may well turn out to be a real star. He's gradually improved as he's settled into the team and with a Prem class player alongside him, just as Shawcross has Ab, he might just surprise a few people, esspecially those that wrote him off as 'not good enough' just weeks into his Stoke career. I don't quite get how you can put Fuller in competition and yet have Whelan as an undroppable cornerstone of the team though. We've seen far more from Fuller (and arguably even from Wilko) in their respective positions to suggest they're Prem class than we have from Whelan in his to show he's consistently up to it. As I say I like Whelan and at his best, like at Villa and against Bolton he's an excellent midfielder. He has his share of poor games where he gives it away and attacks shudder to a halt though. He was guilty of this a fair few times against Boro most recently.
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Post by Irish Stokie on Mar 26, 2009 18:22:17 GMT
I'd go for Cisse personally. At the start of the season he was on fire and I think a falling out with Sbragia has tailed he form off somewhat. Marseille are looking to sell and Pulis was definitely interested in the summer, so maybe a perm signing for around £6 million I think Cisse would be completely realistic, if we were prepared (and we'll probably have to) alter our wage structure. Well TP has staed in an interview around xmas that the Cisse deal was done and dusted in the summer. Said he meet all of Cisse's family and had it pretty much completed, then woke up the next morning and heard he had signed for Sunderland so i would say we could easily sign him in the summer. Unfortunately i think we will sign Ledley who is utter shite IMO and only an average champ player. Zigic anyone
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 26, 2009 19:00:12 GMT
I have, and always have had a feeling that Whelan may well turn out to be a real star. He's gradually improved as he's settled into the team and with a Prem class player alongside him, just as Shawcross has Ab, he might just surprise a few people, esspecially those that wrote him off as 'not good enough' just weeks into his Stoke career. I don't quite get how you can put Fuller in competition and yet have Whelan as an undroppable cornerstone of the team though. We've seen far more from Fuller (and arguably even from Wilko) in their respective positions to suggest they're Prem class than we have from Whelan in his to show he's consistently up to it. As I say I like Whelan and at his best, like at Villa and against Bolton he's an excellent midfielder. He has his share of poor games where he gives it away and attacks shudder to a halt though. He was guilty of this a fair few times against Boro most recently. Because I think that Whelan is a better player than Fuller. That simple. He is also younger, less fragile and less temperemental. You may well think that Fuller has shown more quality this season, and I dont mind you having your own opinion, but we have yet to see Whelan with a suitable partner in the middle, someone that will be there for him if there isn't a ball on, instead of Glenn trying to force the play and losing possesion. I also think that the amount of times that Whelan is overlooked (mainly by Higginbotham) after finding space goes unoticed aswell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 20:02:45 GMT
I don't quite get how you can put Fuller in competition and yet have Whelan as an undroppable cornerstone of the team though. We've seen far more from Fuller (and arguably even from Wilko) in their respective positions to suggest they're Prem class than we have from Whelan in his to show he's consistently up to it. As I say I like Whelan and at his best, like at Villa and against Bolton he's an excellent midfielder. He has his share of poor games where he gives it away and attacks shudder to a halt though. He was guilty of this a fair few times against Boro most recently. Because I think that Whelan is a better player than Fuller. That simple. He is also younger, less fragile and less temperemental. You may well think that Fuller has shown more quality this season, and I dont mind you having your own opinion, but we have yet to see Whelan with a suitable partner in the middle, someone that will be there for him if there isn't a ball on, instead of Glenn trying to force the play and losing possesion. I also think that the amount of times that Whelan is overlooked (mainly by Higginbotham) after finding space goes unoticed aswell. Do you not think Whelan gives the ball away quite a bit though? On Saturday on a few occasions he played a ball to nobody without even looking. Compare that with the game O'Neill had. I don't dislike Whelan but his performances in a Stoke shirt haven't screamed "undroppable" by any stretch. Certainly no more than Higgy, Wilko or Fuller.
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 26, 2009 20:40:02 GMT
If Portsmouth go down i'd go and fetch Belhadj myself as he's quality. Then again Traore from Arsenal (at Pompey) is also well worth considering. Either would be a great signing for us as if Ethers gets injured they both have more than enough class to play in midfield and then bring Higgy in at LB.
Not world beaters i know but 2 'realistic' midfielders i'd be happy with would be Koumas & O'Neil. As for another striker well Benjani's been mentioned who's a good shout, could be at the right price and just up the road or perhaps Tuncay if, sorry when Boro go down?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 26, 2009 20:45:40 GMT
If Portsmouth go down i'd go and fetch Belhadj myself as he's quality. Is Belhadj actually a Pompey player, or is he just there on loan?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 21:06:49 GMT
If Portsmouth go down i'd go and fetch Belhadj myself as he's quality. Is Belhadj actually a Pompey player, or is he just there on loan? I'm pretty sure they made the deal permanent in January?
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 26, 2009 22:52:07 GMT
Do you not think Whelan gives the ball away quite a bit though? On Saturday on a few occasions he played a ball to nobody without even looking. Compare that with the game O'Neill had. I don't dislike Whelan but his performances in a Stoke shirt haven't screamed "undroppable" by any stretch. Certainly no more than Higgy, Wilko or Fuller. Mate, I think Fabregas would have given the ball away just as much, without creating any more than Whelan did and does. Thats just down to the way we play. I also think that Whelan would have done just as good a job, if not better, than O'Niel for Boro' on Satdee. He was given time and space, something that Whelan has found very little of this year, and lets be honest, as good as he was, O'Niel didnt really do anything special did he. It may just be me that feels this way, but Glenn Whelan looks a lot like a star in the making.
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on Mar 26, 2009 23:21:51 GMT
GK- lewis(1m) LB-jose enrique(4m) (if castle go down) RB-kelly(1m) Dm- m'bami(3m) CM-ledley(6m) RM-lualua or dia (for the future) (2m) ST-matt derbyshire (5m)
£22m + a few add-ons
plenty left for zigic!
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Post by crimesy on Mar 26, 2009 23:40:59 GMT
I don't think Man City would let Hart go,he is a huge prospect. I would love to have him though. Benjani or Ebanks-Blake for a striker, Murphy CM and a version of Diao/Faye who could pass the ball (a poor mans Viera) .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2009 8:10:50 GMT
Do you not think Whelan gives the ball away quite a bit though? On Saturday on a few occasions he played a ball to nobody without even looking. Compare that with the game O'Neill had. I don't dislike Whelan but his performances in a Stoke shirt haven't screamed "undroppable" by any stretch. Certainly no more than Higgy, Wilko or Fuller. Mate, I think Fabregas would have given the ball away just as much, without creating any more than Whelan did and does. Thats just down to the way we play. I also think that Whelan would have done just as good a job, if not better, than O'Niel for Boro' on Satdee. He was given time and space, something that Whelan has found very little of this year, and lets be honest, as good as he was, O'Niel didnt really do anything special did he. It may just be me that feels this way, but Glenn Whelan looks a lot like a star in the making. O' Neill controlled the game I thought. Constantly available, constantly had time on the ball, rarely gave it away, excellent vision? I'm just curious as to which games/what evidence you have for this opinion that Whelan is a "star" in the making because he's only been intermittently good for us and Ireland fans don't seem hugely convinced by him either.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 27, 2009 8:27:18 GMT
Wow there are some pretty scary names on some of the lists.....still its a matter of opinions I suppose. One name missing which hasn't been mentioned is............... Jimmy Bullard = we sign him = we stay up
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Post by 606Stokie on Mar 27, 2009 9:30:02 GMT
Whatever happens i can see alot comming and going end of the season...
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