|
Post by Dave the Rave on Feb 18, 2009 23:24:18 GMT
If they are a product of the same society as me, how come i didn't turn out like them?
Perhaps because i realise that making other people's lives miserable is cuntish?
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 18, 2009 23:24:24 GMT
Boxing sessions with Lawton? Jesus wept, let's teach the little thugs how to properly twat someone before they steal their wallet or purse. Great Idea. Ever boxed mate ? Don't think so or else you would realise that there is a lot of discipline required , and a lot of discipline taught...... think about it ????
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 18, 2009 23:27:54 GMT
If they are a product of the same society as me, how come i didn't turn out like them? Perhaps because i realise that making other people's lives miserable is cuntish? Now I may be wrong here but if one of those young kids had made a comment like "c....sh" you would be one of those up in arms about it.
|
|
|
Post by Dave the Rave on Feb 18, 2009 23:29:17 GMT
Erm.... no i wouldn't.
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 18, 2009 23:33:03 GMT
So it would be ok for them to use it then...??? Or is that just because you had to resort to it to make your point, so now it's ok for them ?
|
|
|
Post by swampySCFC on Feb 18, 2009 23:33:26 GMT
If they are a product of the same society as me, how come i didn't turn out like them? Perhaps because i realise that making other people's lives miserable is cuntish? They saved my life in the 80s of that I am sure. For that I will always be grateful
|
|
|
Post by Dave the Rave on Feb 18, 2009 23:34:09 GMT
Are you for real?
|
|
|
Post by swampySCFC on Feb 18, 2009 23:35:27 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Dave the Rave on Feb 18, 2009 23:36:09 GMT
Wasn't aimed at you swampy.
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 18, 2009 23:43:21 GMT
Mate you are a sad idiot who feels that he is superior in every aspect to some of these kids. Have you never made a mistake , never done anything shady ? never stepped out of line ? I guarantee you have.....it's called life mate.... we all make mistakes and we've all pulled strokes , like buying something on the cheap etc. But there is always someone like you who stands tall and upright above it all..... completely misses the point and labels everybody who messes up as scum.... Nighty Night mate....
|
|
|
Post by stokiegav on Feb 19, 2009 3:18:42 GMT
Because Ive worked in this area and whenever you get speakers who are famous - the first session goes perfectly because the kids are in awe of them and their reputation -an effect something that it is fair to say that MC will have (witness the lad on here saying he would def go cos of it) - the next session is always a slighly different ball game as the effect wears off and the kids become more accustomed to the environment and the dominant ones who want to be the next MC will test him (and you if you are a "teacher") - as i said - if he has renounced violence and that is what he is teaching - im interested - from a purely professional point of view - in how he will respond and on the teacher thing - ill hold my hands up lol - I couldnt think of the word - and still cant - is it facilitator? nb - when i said success - i meant the effect it had on the kids - did you mean media and the publics perception etc? I should imagine that the press coverage has been useful to the project in as much as it lets people in the right areas and agencies know that the project is actually out there and attracts support and backing. I agree that the proof must be in the pudding though and that the project should be judged on it's results.....on how it benefits the young people who will be involved. I disagree that the first session was bound to be a success though , first time up in front of young people who are hard to keep focused and could be disruptive , first time delivering in a classroom environment , sounds like putting it on the line to me. I have Read the info they handed out .... they look to have a program , not just a couple of sessions , they have DJ sessions lined up , Creative Writing , Music , Street Dance, training opportunities leading to employment opportunities , boxing sessions with Scott Lawton , and have attracted some celebrity support too from the likes of Simon Pegg and Ricky Hatton. It all sounds very viable and well organised.... they have obviously been well advised so must have people on board with some experience in the area. Like I say....GOOD LUCK LADS dave the rave is either on a wind up or an absolute c*nt mate fair enough- the first is a daunting experience and not easy - tho undoubtedly his rep as one of the hardest in stoke may have helped lol program sounds professional and know of no others that have included boxin - tho not in touch with the projects anymore tbh boxing is def something i think should be brought back into schools - days of where arguments were settled in the boxing ring aresomeway to the answer in my book only thing i would say is the rest of it is standard fare (tho like you say theyve had advice and understandable as its the first go) - the more innovation the better imo - scott lawton could possibly be the icing on the cake serioudly good luck to all - like i say i wish i could be a fly on the wall
|
|
|
Post by RAF on Feb 19, 2009 7:33:58 GMT
I suppose ex addicts shouldn't have a chance to warn people about the effects of drugs either then?
What is the harm in giving this a chance? If it all goes tits up then you can all come on here with 'I told you so'
H
|
|
|
Post by broadwayroundabout on Feb 19, 2009 9:05:25 GMT
I honestly can't believe how anyone can be so negative ??? I'd love to hear what anyone else is doing for these Kids (or little twats as i usually call them !) yes, i'm as guilty as most of us on this board are of just thinking "all they need is a fcukin good hiding" but i've done nothing about it, again, like most of the negative posters. So what if MC, SL, PA and the others involved have been involved in violence in the past, at least they have an understanding of what the young louts are thinking, as for the boxing training it does'nt turn you into a better / stronger thug in 99% of cases, it instills dicipline and a regime that makes for a better person. What it smacks of on here with the negative post's is that you've never been involved in hooliganism, boxing, so therefore you haven't got a fcuking clue how people think or feel therefore the easist option to show how righteous you are is to be negative and post things like " neanderthalls, thick as carrots", etc etc trying to show in some rediculous way that you're not afraid of their past and you'll stand up and state it. Whats this about reserving judgement ?? at least they are trying to do SOMETHING !
I've been there, done that, got the t shirt but remain fairly anonymous when it comes to what i've done in my past but you'd never believe it if you met me, but i'm embarrased to say i've done nothing but complain about the "youth" of today, i for one don't give a flying fcuk about their past either, at least they are trying to do something for the better.
Why don't the negative posters get off their backsides and help or start something themselves ?? i have'nt got time, they don't deserve it, i'm too busy, i can't be bothered...yeh yeh yeh...got time to post on here have'nt you ?
|
|
|
Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 19, 2009 9:07:54 GMT
So if you havnt got a halo above your head your a twat who shouldnt try to make it right? Behave dave your either a wind up merchant of you have got your tackle box and rod out waiting for a bite.
|
|
|
Post by guernseydave on Feb 19, 2009 9:16:19 GMT
Oi Trolly Dolly. Nah fuck em . Come the revolution they would be the first up against the wall and shot. Or if you're the executioner fellated to death St GD
|
|
|
Post by RAF on Feb 19, 2009 9:47:01 GMT
Fair one Dave, never thought about that.
H
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 19, 2009 10:53:15 GMT
I honestly can't believe how anyone can be so negative ??? I'd love to hear what anyone else is doing for these Kids (or little twats as i usually call them !) yes, i'm as guilty as most of us on this board are of just thinking "all they need is a fcukin good hiding" but i've done nothing about it, again, like most of the negative posters. So what if MC, SL, PA and the others involved have been involved in violence in the past, at least they have an understanding of what the young louts are thinking, as for the boxing training it does'nt turn you into a better / stronger thug in 99% of cases, it instills dicipline and a regime that makes for a better person. What it smacks of on here with the negative post's is that you've never been involved in hooliganism, boxing, so therefore you haven't got a fcuking clue how people think or feel therefore the easist option to show how righteous you are is to be negative and post things like " neanderthalls, thick as carrots", etc etc trying to show in some rediculous way that you're not afraid of their past and you'll stand up and state it. Whats this about reserving judgement ?? at least they are trying to do SOMETHING ! I've been there, done that, got the t shirt but remain fairly anonymous when it comes to what i've done in my past but you'd never believe it if you met me, but i'm embarrased to say i've done nothing but complain about the "youth" of today, i for one don't give a flying fcuk about their past either, at least they are trying to do something for the better. Why don't the negative posters get off their backsides and help or start something themselves ?? i have'nt got time, they don't deserve it, i'm too busy, i can't be bothered...yeh yeh yeh...got time to post on here have'nt you ? Spot on
|
|
|
Post by Dave the Rave on Feb 19, 2009 13:20:26 GMT
Sorry but i don't have time for people who think it's ok to mess with other peoples lives in an adverse way.
I don't want these halfwits living anywhere near me or my family.
If they do something, like the stabbing which happened in my street not long ago, i don't want them to even have a chance at rehabilitation. I want them fucking off as far as possible, thank you very much.
I want to come home to my wife and kids every night, without the fear of being attacked by one of these little scumbags, who would think nothing of knifing someone for fun.
Sorry to sound pedantic, but my life and the life of my family are quite important to me, and as such i don't have any time for these people.
Making mistakes is one thing, knowingly ruining peoples lives is another!
|
|
|
Post by guernseydave on Feb 19, 2009 13:41:50 GMT
How on earth do you manage with an elected government then ?
GD
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 19, 2009 15:43:26 GMT
Sorry but i don't have time for people who think it's ok to mess with other peoples lives in an adverse way. I don't want these halfwits living anywhere near me or my family. If they do something, like the stabbing which happened in my street not long ago, i don't want them to even have a chance at rehabilitation. I want them fucking off as far as possible, thank you very much. I want to come home to my wife and kids every night, without the fear of being attacked by one of these little scumbags, who would think nothing of knifing someone for fun. Sorry to sound pedantic, but my life and the life of my family are quite important to me, and as such i don't have any time for these people. Making mistakes is one thing, knowingly ruining peoples lives is another! Try spending more time with your wife n kids instead of on here then.....
|
|
|
Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 19, 2009 15:51:00 GMT
Sorry but i don't have time for people who think it's ok to mess with other peoples lives in an adverse way. I don't want these halfwits living anywhere near me or my family. If they do something, like the stabbing which happened in my street not long ago, i don't want them to even have a chance at rehabilitation. I want them fucking off as far as possible, thank you very much. I want to come home to my wife and kids every night, without the fear of being attacked by one of these little scumbags, who would think nothing of knifing someone for fun. Sorry to sound pedantic, but my life and the life of my family are quite important to me, and as such i don't have any time for these people. Making mistakes is one thing, knowingly ruining peoples lives is another! Who says they went around stabbing people? Grow up you pleb
|
|
|
Post by myleftboot on Feb 19, 2009 16:01:37 GMT
Such a sweeping generalisation after reading the last bit of this thread it is both untrie and unbeleivable.
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 19, 2009 16:04:14 GMT
Such a sweeping generalisation after reading the last bit of this thread it is both untrie and unbeleivable. The last comments ? Or the way the thread has gone in general..?
|
|
|
Post by meirsquare on Feb 20, 2009 10:54:39 GMT
Just heard that the lads will be speaking about the project at 4.15pm today on Cross Rythms Radio 101.8FM
|
|