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Post by powchirper on Feb 16, 2009 20:17:45 GMT
Ahhh bless you. A little bit peeved because once again someone has exposed you to be the spacktard you really are? Never mind, colouring in tomorrow will calm you down. Have a short word with that Kettle about it's colour. H And then there were two! Wtf are you on tonight, and wtf is a spack, not a childish re-wording of the word spastic by any chance, Half term brings the real tards to the board proved by your presence.
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Post by bassmaster on Feb 16, 2009 20:22:58 GMT
Said with a lovely southern twang you anti-football sack of shit.
There is only one football team to come from Manchester and it is not you, but coming from Surrey you would not know that.
RAF, (Spacky pen-pusher) extraordinaire. No change there then.
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Post by slangking on Feb 16, 2009 20:26:26 GMT
Ahhh bless you. A little bit peeved because once again someone has exposed you to be the spacktard you really are? Never mind, colouring in tomorrow will calm you down. Have a short word with that Kettle about it's colour. H And then there were two! You can just see fcukwit writing his diary. Dear diary, once again it is I Top Gun RAF what has exposed to the world how all other users of the Oatcake are spackers (my word, pisser).
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Post by ivanlodarov on Feb 16, 2009 20:28:22 GMT
We Hate Humans
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Post by powchirper on Feb 16, 2009 20:30:03 GMT
raf calls someone a spacktard and then claims not to speak ****, you could make it up but people would call you a liar, I've also heard a story how you bought an airfix plane and now claim to be a pilot, its just a rumour though.
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Post by leeklad on Feb 16, 2009 20:32:10 GMT
raf calls someone a spacktard and then claims not to speak ****, you could make it up but people would call you a liar, I've also heard a story how you bought an airfix plane and now claim to be a pilot, its just a rumour though. ;DHEARD THAT ONE ASWELL
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Post by RAF on Feb 16, 2009 20:34:50 GMT
That's exactly what I did. You don't have to make it up. As for the Airfix, it's just a hobby, nowt wrong with pretending.
Let's get one thing straight, you arrogantly said that unless you hate Manure more than any other team you are a plastic Stokie. Who the fuck do you think you are deciding that?
Anyone claiming that if you don't hate a certain club you are not a proper fan has to be a bit special.
Not far off there AGSF, good crack at it. Just not all users
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Post by ivanlodarov on Feb 16, 2009 20:35:35 GMT
Been stewing over this comment chirper, i ain't going to call it bullshit because it's your opinion. I hate wolves and derby far more than i will ever hate man utd but i'm no 'plastic stokie' as you put it. I was there as well trudging through the 80's and 90's at the vic and beyond and i love the club just as much as you but i really hate wolves and man utd don't come close. Maybe it's down to the fact that i left the potteries at a young age and formed other hates of my own. You sir are a genuine football supporter. You understand that football's not about hatred, it's about rivalry. We hate Liverpool (North-West rivals), and City (Manchester/Salford rivals) and Leeds (Trans-pennine rivals). All of these rivalries are justified and reciprocal. If I were a stoke fan, I would also be concentrating my 'hatred' on our geographical rivals, as pretty much every other club in the country does. All this 'how much do you hate the Shit?' is irrational nonsense. Before people hit the quote button, just remember that I haven't insulted anyone with this post, just made sensible, valid points. Have a think about what your rivalry as a club, not as an an individual with Manchester United is. As far as I can see there isn't any at all. One thing I will say, I would kill to have half the passion at OT that you lot have at BS. We only get it for the big occasions, Champions League games in the later stages and the Liverpool and City matches. Unfortunately, out of the 76,000 supporters, a large proportion travel from all over the place to watch, in turn killing the atmosphere completely. However, that doesn't mean people in Manchester and Salford don't support United. Salford, population 80,000 is almost exclusively red. The split in Greater Manchester (population 2 million), not taking into account Wanderers and Wigan fans, is probably 50/50 between United and City. I was born in Salford and live in Greater Manchester so I support my local team as much as any of you. The United fans you all love to hate, aren't football supporters, they're plastic fans who follow United from afar. Every club has these, but the numbers vary relative to the size of the club. If Stoke were to gain a foothold in the Premier League and become a Champions League club in years to come, you'll have the same problem. Our fans are often accused of being 'obsessed' with clubs like Liverpool and City. I think that's slightly flattering, but as our biggest rivals (with the exception of Leeds), it's only natural to look slightly worriedly over our shoulders before shrugging off the challenge. There's an ongoing theme amongst a lot of United fans at the moment of 'being a top red'. Like a code to being a United supporter, to which if you don't adhere, you'll be frowned upon... ie. no colours at games, hate Ronaldo etc etc... It seems to me that there's a similar thing at Stoke where if you don't hate United you're looked down upon. So in turn, you all naturally hate us because 'Ronaldo's a cunt' (he might well be, but he's our cunt), Fergie's bribed every football official under the sun, and all our fans are Out Of Town, Johnny Cum Lately Glory Supporters. It's all scripted, non-original and devoid of any though or personal opinion. Anyway, good luck to you this season, I genuinely hope you stay up, your home support is second to none and I can't get enough of Delap and his freaky throw in (where the fuck did that come from, never heard of it whilst he was at his previous clubs!) Peace out and Viva John Terry. Easy. Who Are Ya. So you all agree then. Good to know
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Post by eddyclamp on Feb 16, 2009 20:43:39 GMT
;D You sir are a genuine football supporter. You understand that football's not about hatred, it's about rivalry. We hate Liverpool (North-West rivals), and City (Manchester/Salford rivals) and Leeds (Trans-pennine rivals). All of these rivalries are justified and reciprocal. If I were a stoke fan, I would also be concentrating my 'hatred' on our geographical rivals, as pretty much every other club in the country does. All this 'how much do you hate the Shit?' is irrational nonsense. Before people hit the quote button, just remember that I haven't insulted anyone with this post, just made sensible, valid points. Have a think about what your rivalry as a club, not as an an individual with Manchester United is. As far as I can see there isn't any at all. One thing I will say, I would kill to have half the passion at OT that you lot have at BS. We only get it for the big occasions, Champions League games in the later stages and the Liverpool and City matches. Unfortunately, out of the 76,000 supporters, a large proportion travel from all over the place to watch, in turn killing the atmosphere completely. However, that doesn't mean people in Manchester and Salford don't support United. Salford, population 80,000 is almost exclusively red. The split in Greater Manchester (population 2 million), not taking into account Wanderers and Wigan fans, is probably 50/50 between United and City. I was born in Salford and live in Greater Manchester so I support my local team as much as any of you. The United fans you all love to hate, aren't football supporters, they're plastic fans who follow United from afar. Every club has these, but the numbers vary relative to the size of the club. If Stoke were to gain a foothold in the Premier League and become a Champions League club in years to come, you'll have the same problem. Our fans are often accused of being 'obsessed' with clubs like Liverpool and City. I think that's slightly flattering, but as our biggest rivals (with the exception of Leeds), it's only natural to look slightly worriedly over our shoulders before shrugging off the challenge. There's an ongoing theme amongst a lot of United fans at the moment of 'being a top red'. Like a code to being a United supporter, to which if you don't adhere, you'll be frowned upon... ie. no colours at games, hate Ronaldo etc etc... It seems to me that there's a similar thing at Stoke where if you don't hate United you're looked down upon. So in turn, you all naturally hate us because 'Ronaldo's a cunt' (he might well be, but he's our cunt), Fergie's bribed every football official under the sun, and all our fans are Out Of Town, Johnny Cum Lately Glory Supporters. It's all scripted, non-original and devoid of any though or personal opinion. Anyway, good luck to you this season, I genuinely hope you stay up, your home support is second to none and I can't get enough of Delap and his freaky throw in (where the fuck did that come from, never heard of it whilst he was at his previous clubs!) Peace out and Viva John Terry. Easy. Who Are Ya. So you all agree then. Good to know ;D ;D
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Post by bassmaster on Feb 16, 2009 20:47:32 GMT
RAF, pen-pusher, toilet cleaner, I hate Wolves, Johnny come lately, cock sucker, self-aggrandising shit for brains second to none bar Illford **** on the whole of this board (NAIL AND HEAD SON! & PIE EATING MUNTER ©Copyright of RAF. Also the phrase 'Pisser' is mine aswell! Copyright?? You thick big-headed cunt. Keyboard warrior? I'd fucking quite happily kill you you Munich, cock-munching flid.
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Post by ivanlodarov on Feb 16, 2009 20:47:42 GMT
Single handedly quietened the loudest fans in the land.. They call me Carlos Tevez in some circles.
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Post by crimesy on Feb 16, 2009 20:49:02 GMT
.. and as their "fans" say, we are "just stoke". Really gets on my tits, they dont understand what supporting a team is, or at least, supporting a Proper-team. I hate bardiff, fail, pool, Citeh, wolves etc.but i at least have a little respect for them. With Manure, i have no respect and hate them with pure passion, even more than you trebor
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Post by RAF on Feb 16, 2009 20:51:08 GMT
I know you are a fair bit retarded so I'll repeat what I have already said in the hope that even a brainless div like you can understand. I don't like Manure, I just happen to hate Wolves. If 1975 for my first match is Johnny come lately then fair enough that's me. The smiley after the copyright gives it away to normal people. And if you'd happily kill me, then come and find me any time you chicken shit , and I'll rip your fucking throat out.
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Post by crimesy on Feb 16, 2009 20:54:22 GMT
You sir are a genuine football supporter. You understand that football's not about hatred, it's about rivalry. We hate Liverpool (North-West rivals), and City (Manchester/Salford rivals) and Leeds (Trans-pennine rivals). All of these rivalries are justified and reciprocal. If I were a stoke fan, I would also be concentrating my 'hatred' on our geographical rivals, as pretty much every other club in the country does. All this 'how much do you hate the Shit?' is irrational nonsense. Before people hit the quote button, just remember that I haven't insulted anyone with this post, just made sensible, valid points. Have a think about what your rivalry as a club, not as an an individual with Manchester United is. As far as I can see there isn't any at all. One thing I will say, I would kill to have half the passion at OT that you lot have at BS. We only get it for the big occasions, Champions League games in the later stages and the Liverpool and City matches. Unfortunately, out of the 76,000 supporters, a large proportion travel from all over the place to watch, in turn killing the atmosphere completely. However, that doesn't mean people in Manchester and Salford don't support United. Salford, population 80,000 is almost exclusively red. The split in Greater Manchester (population 2 million), not taking into account Wanderers and Wigan fans, is probably 50/50 between United and City. I was born in Salford and live in Greater Manchester so I support my local team as much as any of you. The United fans you all love to hate, aren't football supporters, they're plastic fans who follow United from afar. Every club has these, but the numbers vary relative to the size of the club. If Stoke were to gain a foothold in the Premier League and become a Champions League club in years to come, you'll have the same problem. Our fans are often accused of being 'obsessed' with clubs like Liverpool and City. I think that's slightly flattering, but as our biggest rivals (with the exception of Leeds), it's only natural to look slightly worriedly over our shoulders before shrugging off the challenge. There's an ongoing theme amongst a lot of United fans at the moment of 'being a top red'. Like a code to being a United supporter, to which if you don't adhere, you'll be frowned upon... ie. no colours at games, hate Ronaldo etc etc... It seems to me that there's a similar thing at Stoke where if you don't hate United you're looked down upon. So in turn, you all naturally hate us because 'Ronaldo's a cunt' (he might well be, but he's our cunt), Fergie's bribed every football official under the sun, and all our fans are Out Of Town, Johnny Cum Lately Glory Supporters. It's all scripted, non-original and devoid of any though or personal opinion. Anyway, good luck to you this season, I genuinely hope you stay up, your home support is second to none and I can't get enough of Delap and his freaky throw in (where the fuck did that come from, never heard of it whilst he was at his previous clubs!) Peace out and Viva John Terry. Easy. Who Are Ya. So you all agree then. Good to know Germany is on the other side of Europe, doesnt stop me hating Hitler does it? ???
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Post by bassmaster on Feb 16, 2009 20:54:58 GMT
You fucking wouldn't you arrogant turd, you just wouldn't.
1975, And you still don't know your history you wanky self-important ****?
I beat you by 7 years, I know we hate Munichs, your cognitive 'ability' shines.
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Post by crimesy on Feb 16, 2009 20:55:30 GMT
BTW RAF, at the moment, you are looking more like a child than Chirper.
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 16, 2009 20:58:52 GMT
Good post ivanlodarov!
My dislike stems purely from the preferential treatment that Man U get in this league. I was indifferent prior to us obtaining Prem status but each game i watch, i see further injustice because Man U are percieved to be 'the elite'. I feel the same about people in society who achieve through perceived status and inherited financial security rather than hard earned merit and deserved financial acquisition.
I will always want the under dog to prosper and succeed, so i will always be a stokie ;D
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Post by RAF on Feb 16, 2009 20:59:12 GMT
Yeah Garfield I know, sometimes can't help myself when I'm bored.
Excuse me , what bit of history are you enlightening me with? I'm not arguing that we dislike Manure. I'm arguing the case that you don't have to hate Manure more than any team to be a proper Stokie.
And there is no way anyone over the age of 20 would call himself Bassmaster so don't give me that 7 year bollox.
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Post by ivanlodarov on Feb 16, 2009 21:01:02 GMT
So you all agree then. Good to know Germany is on the other side of Europe, doesnt stop me hating Hitler does it? ??? True. United are pure evil, on a par with the orchestrator of the holocaust and mass murder of millions of people.
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Post by leeklad on Feb 16, 2009 21:02:31 GMT
I know you are a fair bit retarded so I'll repeat what I have already said in the hope that even a brainless div like you can understand. I don't like Manure, I just happen to hate Wolves. If 1975 for my first match is Johnny come lately then fair enough that's me. The smiley after the copyright gives it away to normal people. And if you'd happily kill me, then come and find me any time you chicken shit , and I'll rip your fucking throat out. H THREAT !!!BAN,BAN,BAN,FIGHT,FIGHT
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Post by crimesy on Feb 16, 2009 21:09:51 GMT
Germany is on the other side of Europe, doesnt stop me hating Hitler does it? ??? True. United are pure evil, on a par with the orchestrator of the holocaust and mass murder of millions of people. It is called an 'Exaggerated Metaphor" my ode. However, i agree with stokie25. Good first post and you speak a little sense, i still despise Manure and their 'fans' though
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Post by powchirper on Feb 16, 2009 21:13:03 GMT
To be honest i've fogotten who's arguing with who on this thread, Airfix boy is for tearing throats out now, think its getting out of hand, Where's ilfordgrasss when you need him, and as for Crimesey calling posters children, where the fuck did that one come from, Ladderedge by any chance
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Post by ivanlodarov on Feb 16, 2009 21:13:11 GMT
Good post ivanlodarov! My dislike stems purely from the preferential treatment that Man U get in this league. I was indifferent prior to us obtaining Prem status but each game i watch, i see further injustice because Man U are percieved to be 'the elite'. I feel the same about people in society who achieve through perceived status and inherited financial security rather than hard earned merit and deserved financial acquisition. I will always want the under dog to prosper and succeed, so i will always be a stokie ;D Its difficult to see from the perspective of other clubs. Do you think the general hatred has been magnified by being in the Premier League? The thing is, from my point of view, the modern Manchester United is the brainchild of Alex Ferguson's life work along with a few helping hands in terms of club staff, boards and owners. You'll be hard pushed to find a genuine United fan who doesn't think the whole concept of being owned by an American isn't the root of all evil. It is. We're hundreds of millions of pounds in debt and as committed supporters getting royally screwed by ever increasing ticket prices and the shackles of the Automatic Cup Scheme. However, the soul of the club is in its history, something that existed before these owners and will exist beyond these owners. I wasn't born until 1985 so I didn't necessarily experience the 26 trophyless years and division 2. I haven't felt much of (well any of) the pain really and have been fortunate to see nothing but success. Obviously, I will never appreciate it as much as people in their 50s who had to deal with the torture of City and Liverpool being more dominant than us. I think when people say they feel sorry for us, that's probably where they're coming from. What's a high without a low? At the end of the day though, you support the club that your dad supports and the club that his dad supported. That's how it works. With Sky coming onto the scene though, a lot of kids seem to be missing the point. There's two kids living in the house next to me under the age of 10, one supports Liverpool and the other Arsenal. What's wrong with United of City FFS!? Anyway, it's good to be properly hated again, a lot of people seemed to be warming to us when we were the lesser of two evils between in 2006 by stopping Chelski win the league for the third season in a row.
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Post by RAF on Feb 16, 2009 21:14:29 GMT
I would like to apologise to anyone who has taken offence at my posts on here. I just refuse to suffer fools and I won't be told that hating a certain club more than another make you a 'proper fan' As for my throat ripping remark, that was in direct response to someone who said they would gladly kill me . I do however retract my spack remarks as they are stupid.
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Post by ivanlodarov on Feb 16, 2009 21:15:28 GMT
True. United are pure evil, on a par with the orchestrator of the holocaust and mass murder of millions of people. It is called an 'Exaggerated Metaphor" my ode. However, i agree with stokie25. Good first post and you speak a little sense, i still despise Manure and their 'fans' though The 'na na na na Possebon one?' ;D We hate the 'fans' just as much as you do.. it's the supporters who over the years have spent their hard earned on following their team who really count, whoever that team may be.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Feb 16, 2009 21:18:07 GMT
Not at all really.
You see, i'm a grown up, so i can control my emotions over something as trivial as football.
Reading some of the stuff on here, some of you seriously need to get a life, and chill the fuck out.
They are just a football team.
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Post by kingdeano on Feb 16, 2009 21:23:35 GMT
i dont hate them at all, their are times when they play some great football and as football fans we should feel privelidged to watch them. the same as arsenal when they turn it on, its great to watch. yes united have a fair percentage of glory hunting twats but i think people are forgetting our crowds before we got promoted!!! to hear people say i hope they get dicked in europe really grates on my tits! they are an english club representing england in europe and people want an italian side beat them!! ffs get a life
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Post by ivanlodarov on Feb 16, 2009 21:25:34 GMT
i dont hate them at all, their are times when they play some great football and as football fans we should feel privelidged to watch them. the same as arsenal when they turn it on, its great to watch. yes united have a fair percentage of glory hunting twats but i think people are forgetting our crowds before we got promoted!!! to hear people say i hope they get dicked in europe really grates on my tits! they are an english club representing england in europe and people want an italian side beat them!! ffs get a life Put your tin hat on.. incommmiiiiiiing
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Post by powchirper on Feb 16, 2009 21:30:43 GMT
no matter how much you want them to win in europe kd, and nothing you say will make me change my mind, i want inter to beat them and beat them big style. i would honestly sooner fuckin die than cheer the shit on in any comp.
Put it this way, you cheer them to glory in europe, they pocket all the cash that goes with this glory, they then buy even bigger cheats than they have now, the bigger cheat the bought scores the goal that beats Stoke..................shit thats already happened.
COME ON INTER STICK IT UP THESE ARGIE LOVING TWATS.
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 16, 2009 21:34:03 GMT
Good post ivanlodarov! My dislike stems purely from the preferential treatment that Man U get in this league. I was indifferent prior to us obtaining Prem status but each game i watch, i see further injustice because Man U are percieved to be 'the elite'. I feel the same about people in society who achieve through perceived status and inherited financial security rather than hard earned merit and deserved financial acquisition. I will always want the under dog to prosper and succeed, so i will always be a stokie ;D Its difficult to see from the perspective of other clubs. Do you think the general hatred has been magnified by being in the Premier League? The thing is, from my point of view, the modern Manchester United is the brainchild of Alex Ferguson's life work along with a few helping hands in terms of club staff, boards and owners. You'll be hard pushed to find a genuine United fan who doesn't think the whole concept of being owned by an American isn't the root of all evil. It is. We're hundreds of millions of pounds in debt and as committed supporters getting royally screwed by ever increasing ticket prices and the shackles of the Automatic Cup Scheme. However, the soul of the club is in its history, something that existed before these owners and will exist beyond these owners. I wasn't born until 1985 so I didn't necessarily experience the 26 trophyless years and division 2. I haven't felt much of (well any of) the pain really and have been fortunate to see nothing but success. Obviously, I will never appreciate it as much as people in their 50s who had to deal with the torture of City and Liverpool being more dominant than us. I think when people say they feel sorry for us, that's probably where they're coming from. What's a high without a low? At the end of the day though, you support the club that your dad supports and the club that his dad supported. That's how it works. With Sky coming onto the scene though, a lot of kids seem to be missing the point. There's two kids living in the house next to me under the age of 10, one supports Liverpool and the other Arsenal. What's wrong with United of City FFS!? Anyway, it's good to be properly hated again, a lot of people seemed to be warming to us when we were the lesser of two evils between in 2006 by stopping Chelski win the league for the third season in a row. I appreciate your perspective on this, as a balanced argument allows for a more reasoned judgment. I accept, ourselves included, that luck in decisions has some part to play, but that works to the contrary at times. To my frustration, Pulis has, in my opinion, allowed outrageous decisions against us to slip, but then the following week we have been a bit lucky on a few ref/officials calls...so it paid to keep quiet. How many occasions has SAF appealed or brought media attention to his perceived poor refereeing decisions such that now they seem almost untouchable? Club ownership, i agree, has a major part to play. Unfortunately for Man Utd, our owner is a lifelong Stoke supporter who has contibuted far more than just passion and business acumen to our club. For that reason, I doubt Man U fans will ever have that 'family' feel to it's club. I think this is why it is so hard to justify that Man U have fans more committed and more passionate and dedicated than us. They clearly do have a couple though, ivan
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