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Post by oatcakeeater on Dec 4, 2008 20:18:35 GMT
Bit of a tough one this (or maybe not?) and it's been playing on my mind for a few weeks. I've got a couple of Neanderthals sitting behind me each game, season ticket holders obviously. Now aside from them not actually knowing the name of the player on the ball at any one time which is irritating, they are partial to a couple of derogatory terms regarding our black players each game. So far this season I’ve heard nigger a couple of times, coon once a match and black cun| (addressing Mr Fuller as he stepped up to equalise against Hull last week). That said when they called Kitson a “Ginger tosser” I thought, fair play ;D
Now, the question is, do I shop the idiots to the club, have a word with them next time I hear it or put up with it for the rest of the season?
I do cringe every time I hear the words having a couple of black friends. Saying that it’s just words from the mouths of idiots so should I care? Is it any worse than calling Kitson a “Ginger tosser”? I dunno, I’m in a quandary. Any advice or similar experiences?
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Post by stokie25 on Dec 4, 2008 20:37:49 GMT
i dunno if this helps...but when Shawcross went down with that back injury, i mumbled "come on, son, get up" to have a clown in front of me, say "eff off, he's a big lad"....so when he didn't get up, I retorted with, 'come on son, you're a big lad'.....the bloke apologised at the end of the game and shook my hand! At the Hull game, his own brother (who sits next to him), said what a dick head he'd been, in light of the injury revelations, and both were very friendly~! Therefore, i suggest staying quiet until you can play him at his own game, ie, "that 'black cunt' has just scored and earned us 3 points, you racist dickhead"......which could be mama, ricci, or any number of our our midfielders ;D Failing that, shop the twat! ;D
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Post by kevkj on Dec 4, 2008 20:38:01 GMT
yeah grow up
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 4, 2008 20:50:52 GMT
Why the feck are you seeking the answer here? Any normal person would have the sense to deal with it accordingly.
As if the far-right dicks on here will take your racial concern seriously.
Just Do It EEEEEETTT - as they say!
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Post by oatcakeeater on Dec 4, 2008 20:53:08 GMT
errr, just do what? There are a number of options available and it all depends on your point of view as to what "deal with it accordingly" means doesn't it? I'm simply asking for opinions.
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 4, 2008 20:55:36 GMT
just out of curiosity are you big black and ginger?? thought you could be with it bothering you so much!
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Post by oatcakeeater on Dec 4, 2008 20:59:24 GMT
...No, I'm not Wes Brown if that's what you mean?
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 4, 2008 21:00:29 GMT
id have said useless aswell if i meant wes brown!
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 4, 2008 21:00:46 GMT
...No, I'm not Wes Brown if that's what you mean? Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear
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Post by greyman on Dec 4, 2008 21:05:58 GMT
As far as I know, the guy who sells badges near the ticket office still sells BNP stuff. Hopefully Faye will notice and kick him to death one day.
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Dec 4, 2008 21:09:53 GMT
you just cant believe that can you.... what is wrong with people
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 4, 2008 21:12:24 GMT
For an area that's quite racist anyway we've got better about this but I'd like to see more initiatives from the club. Nothing wrong with a bit of honest abuse but if it's racist, no way.
If it was me I'd try having a word, see if it improves but if that just makes it worse I'd shop them
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 4, 2008 21:15:40 GMT
As far as I know, the guy who sells badges near the ticket office still sells BNP stuff. Hopefully Faye will notice and kick him to death one day. does he deserve kicking to death for selling badges to people who want to support the bnp?? i think not! people vote who they like, after all its a free country, whos worse, the bloke for selling bnp badges or the idiot who wants him kicking to death
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Post by daverichards on Dec 4, 2008 21:19:41 GMT
Both
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Post by GerrysGonnaGetYa on Dec 4, 2008 21:29:26 GMT
Am I the only one who's noticed the token "Interracial Romance" advert banner at the top of this thread...
Topical, humerous and a bit bizarre!!!!!
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Post by turd on Dec 4, 2008 21:30:30 GMT
smack the cunt.
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Post by visunitafortior on Dec 4, 2008 21:41:47 GMT
Tell him to watch his racism next time he does it if it offends you that much. To be honest I think that the victims of racism are often the racists themselves as other people think that they are just ignorant, backward and uneducated knuckle draggers.
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Post by edinburghstokie on Dec 4, 2008 21:51:39 GMT
To be honest I think that the victims of racism are often the racists themselves as other people think that they are just ignorant, backward and uneducated knuckle draggers. They do say that the truth hurts hardest. As to the OP question, you should really confront them (in a non-inflammatory manner), say you don't feel it is appropriate, and ask them to abate. If they repeat again next match ask again, and if it happens a third time tell the club. If we don't stand up to racism, it won't ever go away.
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Post by oatcakeeater on Dec 4, 2008 22:12:55 GMT
To be honest I think that the victims of racism are often the racists themselves as other people think that they are just ignorant, backward and uneducated knuckle draggers. They do say that the truth hurts hardest. As to the OP question, you should really confront them (in a non-inflammatory manner), say you don't feel it is appropriate, and ask them to abate. If they repeat again next match ask again, and if it happens a third time tell the club. If we don't stand up to racism, it won't ever go away. True enough, I'm suprised nobody else has said anything to be honest. That said I don't go down the match to confront a group of blokes, I go to support Stoke. It's not that it offends me that much, I'm white so why would it.I just feel there's no need for it.
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Post by mistersausage on Dec 4, 2008 22:33:56 GMT
If we don't stand up to racism, it won't ever go away. If you think racism will EVER go away you're deluded. Whilst I tend not to use racist remarks myself a great many of the yoghurt gobblers and liberate' who scream to the heavens about racism can often be heard referring to the Welsh as 'sheepshaggers', the scousers as 'pickpockets and scallys', and the Scots as 'tight arses' Strange thing racism .... And then you've got fat bastards .... chavs, gippo's .... Don't you just love stereotypes.
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Post by lew86 on Dec 4, 2008 22:34:33 GMT
I'd have words personally mate, theres no roomforshit like that this day in age. Im not a P.C conformist but I think racism is brainless caveman shite.
Isnt this the kind of thing kick racism out of football is all about?
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Post by LH_SCFC on Dec 4, 2008 22:37:16 GMT
Did you know that at one of our recent home games (I forget which), the team came out of the tunnel lined up with all the white players, followed by all the black players?
Fact.
Andrew Griffin is running a racist changing room I'm afraid lads, and until we tackle our captain's discrepancies, the crowd problems will not be solved.
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Post by edinburghstokie on Dec 4, 2008 23:03:05 GMT
If you think racism will EVER go away you're deluded. NO I don't believe racism will ever disappear. However, that is no excuse to turn a blind eye to it.
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Post by Jug Bank Stokie on Dec 4, 2008 23:49:31 GMT
LH_SCFC, the fact that Griffin is a neo-nazi seems to surprise you. Did you not know of his eastern European roots? From Wigan my arse!
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Post by macmozzer on Dec 5, 2008 0:22:39 GMT
thanks for sticking up for the poor helpless black people.racism, thats so 1980's!!!!!
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Post by macmozzer on Dec 5, 2008 0:35:39 GMT
we're living on a ball in the middle of infinity,one day!!!!
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Post by tampon on Dec 5, 2008 1:16:12 GMT
I'd keep schtum, people like that aren't going to see the error of their ways because some do-gooder tells them off, it will almost certainly just cause you alot of aggro. Inform the club if it really bothers you... either that or smuggle a knife into the ground and stab the slags.
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Post by macmozzer on Dec 5, 2008 1:30:31 GMT
don't stab them,just realise they know nothing about the human race,laugh at them and move on...they may learn one day!!!!
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Post by tampon on Dec 5, 2008 1:37:05 GMT
macmozzer could be right. Take a knife to the ground and flip a coin while you are there, heads you stab them & tails you don't. You can't get in trouble if the coin told you to do it.
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Post by macmozzer on Dec 5, 2008 1:41:41 GMT
uncle , i'm a piro too,i'll burn anything,i haven't tried ice yet though!!!
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