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Post by tuum on Apr 19, 2024 15:30:52 GMT
Freedom of the press and people having a voice is fine ..but It’s a salutary lesson for all who engage with the Media of the tricks they play , in this case RS ..they’re not your friend , it’s not a light entertainment business it’s an industry based on control and managing news. one built on dark arts to suit their aims.. Click bait to attract views and the increased numbers to the next thrilling instalment is one thing , Arsenal fan TV are the masters , they pick a group of ego chasing individuals and use them for their own financial gain . This being the BBC doesn’t mean you’re safe from such tactics far from it , being the BBC though makes it a little darker than AFTV , it’s been done to create views sure, but also clipped to undermine and cause a split amongst fans and between fans and club at an important time .. you have to ask yourself why would RS do that and if you wish to engage with them in the future They give people a stage , ask on the face of bland ( leading ) questions , set the fuse and stand well back and watch the fireworks Clubs and high profile business ( especially those listed on the FTSE ) arnt adverse to managing news themselves of course , it’s why they have media departments and send their senior employees on expensive media courses not only to learn presentation skills but also defensive interview techniques ..( compare TPs interviews when he first arrived at the club and those later after he’d attended media course ahead of the Prem years ) ..it’s why managers / MPs interviews are bland and any question posed quickly turned around to ensure only the party message of unity is given Its why the media , in this case look elsewhere for their fall guys ..it’s car crash stuff for the individual , bottle of bubbly time for the presenter and the producer Presumably in this case the club saw the clip as damaging and requested its removal at again a presumably fairly high level , no doubt under the valed ( sic ) threat of limiting future access to RS In truth stunts like this don’t help anyone , least of all fans , the individual gets thrown under the bus for a couple of days and in the longer term interviews with the club become even more beige I agree with everything you say and I also believe this is the way the media works, but for a local radio station to pull this stunt for a few clicks( and it is a few we are not Real Madrid) at this time has crossed a line, I hope scfc go out of their way to make an example of them on what will and won’t be tolerated. I disagree with this.RS have not crossed a line and the club should stay out if it. RS have chosen to sensationalise the comments. It doesn't bother me too much but a few on here seem to be quite angry. A simple email to RS letting them know how you feel will probably sort it. Eventually, they will get the message.
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Post by questionable on Apr 19, 2024 17:06:52 GMT
It’s all rainbows and fluttering flags from now on commentary wise, it’s just another way of deflecting from the club and its owners in my opinion.
The club is on its arse yet we’re debating someone stating the obvious
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Post by Rick Grimes on Apr 19, 2024 17:52:15 GMT
I might be in a minority on this but Laurent is clearly aware of the Radio Stoke piece because he’s been tagged in it plenty and and also clearly reacted to the positive Stoke City tweet.
If I’m Josh Laurent the Radio Stoke stuff is fuelling me to put in absolutely everything I’ve got into tomorrow to prove the fuckers wrong.
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Post by jaybee on Apr 19, 2024 17:58:53 GMT
Can anyone explain (please) what everyone is going on about?
I started at page 1 but it says "not found"
Thanks
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 19, 2024 18:45:08 GMT
Chin up Ange. This IS The Oatcake and sniping at a woman when most males have said the same thing is par for the course. But just to add a bit of perspective, Laurent's header off the line in the last game was worth a massive point to us and was as good as a goal.
OS.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 19, 2024 21:03:09 GMT
Angela was only saying what a lot of us have been saying for the past couple of years about how idle Laurent is and not really giving a shit about the club.
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 19, 2024 22:38:23 GMT
Oatcake members “why don’t commentators or reporters ask the scathing questions and question the players?”
Oatcake members when it happens “why would you question the club or players that doesn’t help anyone?”
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Post by tinofspam on Apr 19, 2024 22:43:13 GMT
You just know he’s gonna dedicate that 35 yard screamer to Ange, even if we’re 4-0 down I’d be amazed if Laurent could hit the target from 35 yards, even with no defenders and an empty net. Did you see him in the Broxap challenge with the kids? If he wasn’t a unit he’d be playing non-league. One of the worst footballers I’ve seen play for us and I watched all of the 97-00 period. Although a lower league side and closer than 40 yards, he scored a decent goal in the cup against Stevenage Not contesting your point, just that he’s got the odd good goal in him
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 19, 2024 22:51:05 GMT
Can anyone explain (please) what everyone is going on about? I started at page 1 but it says "not found" Thanks I think… Angela Smith/Radio Stoke have made a video lasting something like 45mins-1hr and during it Angela has criticised Laurent’s performances this season and his captaincy, this being a very small part of the whole video. Radio Stoke have released another video of just this part to make Angela’s comments stand out. Some have argued this is Radio Stoke trying to cause trouble, some have said it’s just clickbait stuff, and some have criticised Angela for her comments, or at least the timing of them. This has lead to accusations of sexism amongst the Oatcake posters, some will have criticised her because she’s a woman, some won’t have criticisms of her because she’s a woman, some just disagree, some just agree, just another day on the Oatcake.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 20, 2024 8:47:30 GMT
At this point in time - totally out of order Twig brained woman should be sacked from Radio Stoke and banned by the club ! awful awful post
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Post by jaybee on Apr 20, 2024 10:44:29 GMT
Can anyone explain (please) what everyone is going on about? I started at page 1 but it says "not found" Thanks I think… Angela Smith/Radio Stoke have made a video lasting something like 45mins-1hr and during it Angela has criticised Laurent’s performances this season and his captaincy, this being a very small part of the whole video. Radio Stoke have released another video of just this part to make Angela’s comments stand out. Some have argued this is Radio Stoke trying to cause trouble, some have said it’s just clickbait stuff, and some have criticised Angela for her comments, or at least the timing of them. This has lead to accusations of sexism amongst the Oatcake posters, some will have criticised her because she’s a woman, some won’t have criticisms of her because she’s a woman, some just disagree, some just agree, just another day on the Oatcake. Thanks for your excellent explanation and also for making me laugh out loud at your last sentence!
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Apr 20, 2024 10:46:40 GMT
and where are admin on this post? surely some poster accounts need looking at. I thought personal abuse was a line that should not be crossed?
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Post by kustokie on Apr 20, 2024 12:31:44 GMT
At this point in time - totally out of order Twig brained woman should be sacked from Radio Stoke and banned by the club ! I don't post on here very often anymore because it always end up in a pissing match ("it's never a good idea to enage in a pissing match with skunks"). However, Radio Stoke is not (or least it should not be) a propaganda instrument of the club. They are perfectly capable of doing that for themselves. It would be the end of the free press (and I am afraid we are heading in that direction), if every journalist is banned for speaking their mind. The oatcake is the place for healthy debate, such as is Ange right, but it is not the place for misogynistic insults. As Magaret Thatcher (I am not a fan) famously said "if my opponents resort to insults, I know their arugments are weak or non-existent".
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Post by kustokie on Apr 20, 2024 12:38:16 GMT
and where are admin on this post? surely some poster accounts need looking at. I thought personal abuse was a line that should not be crossed? well said
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Post by frasier37 on Apr 20, 2024 12:45:26 GMT
Angela was only saying what a lot of us have been saying for the past couple of years about how idle Laurent is and not really giving a shit about the club. To be fair to Ange she never said he was idle or didnt give a shit as that's complete bollocks anyway
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Post by kustokie on Apr 20, 2024 12:53:22 GMT
I’d be amazed if Laurent could hit the target from 35 yards, even with no defenders and an empty net. Did you see him in the Broxap challenge with the kids? If he wasn’t a unit he’d be playing non-league. One of the worst footballers I’ve seen play for us and I watched all of the 97-00 period. Although a lower league side and closer than 40 yards, he scored a decent goal in the cup against Stevenage Not contesting your point, just that he’s got the odd good goal in him blind squirrel, acorn
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Post by owdgrandadstokie on Apr 20, 2024 12:55:27 GMT
Absolutely nothing controversial saying Laurent is a wank captain. It's about an controversial as saying water is wet. I say it every week....
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Post by Sfance on Apr 20, 2024 13:09:11 GMT
Laurent to score today, plus one assist
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Post by tinofspam on Apr 20, 2024 13:09:18 GMT
Although a lower league side and closer than 40 yards, he scored a decent goal in the cup against Stevenage Not contesting your point, just that he’s got the odd good goal in him blind squirrel, acorn True, I guess Wilmot is a good example
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 20, 2024 15:04:59 GMT
I was very critical of him last week.
First half he’s a man possessed.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 20, 2024 16:02:54 GMT
I was very critical of him last week. First half he’s a man possessed. He was excellent today....Thanks to Ange
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 20, 2024 16:20:17 GMT
Very good performance today from Laurent
In fact the whole midfield was superb
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Post by thepottypotter on Apr 20, 2024 16:21:34 GMT
Best performance of the season from Laurent .
Silenced a few critics with that
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Post by whatsashig on Apr 20, 2024 16:23:07 GMT
No idea what was said but was great today, defensively and going forward, I’ll leave the headers out though. Great game👍
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 20, 2024 16:25:57 GMT
It’s no surprise our best performance came when we had a midfield had control.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 20, 2024 16:33:16 GMT
He was ok like 6/10.
Shirked some tackles like the one that to their free kick first half and messed some good attacking areas up I thought.
Great ball for Campbell though in the second half.
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Post by Discovery Stoke on Apr 20, 2024 16:36:01 GMT
He was ok like 6/10. Shirked some tackles like the one that to their free kick first half and messed some good attacking areas up I thought. Great ball for Campbell though in the second half. Nobody. Absolutely nobody was a 6/10 today mate
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 20, 2024 16:37:16 GMT
He was ok like 6/10. Shirked some tackles like the one that to their free kick first half and messed some good attacking areas up I thought. Great ball for Campbell though in the second half. Nobody. Absolutely nobody was a 6/10 today mate You’re right, Campbell was 5/10 🤣
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Apr 20, 2024 16:42:11 GMT
He was ok like 6/10. Shirked some tackles like the one that to their free kick first half and messed some good attacking areas up I thought. Great ball for Campbell though in the second half. He was much better at 2-0 which in a way says a lot. Crap first half. Happy anyway, though!
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Post by biddulphchav on Apr 20, 2024 16:43:16 GMT
Did well today. Has a hell of an engine on him, shame he’s so inconsistent. In fact, I’d go as far to say the he has the physical attributes to play in the Prem but on footballing ability alone he’s League 2 standard.
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