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Post by Glory Hunter on Apr 19, 2024 7:57:52 GMT
Booing your own team or players, is for twats, though. Is it? Even when they look like they don't give a shit and give up the ghost? I’d say it’s more of a choice, I don’t agree with and choose not to do it. Those who do boo, aren’t supporters in my opinion. It’s a weak response to a strained situation. My advise to people who plan to boo if things don’t go well is to stay away in the first place.
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Post by knype on Apr 19, 2024 8:01:40 GMT
Is it? Even when they look like they don't give a shit and give up the ghost? I’d say it’s more of a choice, I don’t agree with and choose not to do it. Those who do boo, aren’t supporters in my opinion. It’s a weak response to a strained situation. My advise to people who plan to boo if things don’t go well is to stay away in the first place.
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 19, 2024 8:01:54 GMT
Is it? Even when they look like they don't give a shit and give up the ghost? I’d say it’s more of a choice, I don’t agree with and choose not to do it. Those who do boo, aren’t supporters in my opinion. It’s a weak response to a strained situation. My advise to people who plan to boo if things don’t go well is to stay away in the first place. N ironically your name is gloryhunter🤦🏼♂️😂 it’s anything but a weak response imo….if they grafted n at least showed a bit of fight there would be no booing at all let’s be honest, it’s the sheer lack of desire n fight what pisses people off, they score n play well they get cheered..when they cower n show no balls they get booed…pretty much the same everywhere 🔴⚪️
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Post by Eggybread on Apr 19, 2024 8:04:39 GMT
Regardless of whether she is correct in her opinion or not isnt the point.The point is she should keep such controversial opinions which may or may not have a detrmental effect to herself.We need all hands on deck at the moment not somone spouted off without any thought of consequences. One more thing the comment "If anyone feels that my comments are wrong so be it" stinks of smugness and arrogance.If I never see or hear from her again I wont be upset.See ya Ange.
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 19, 2024 8:04:42 GMT
Is it? Even when they look like they don't give a shit and give up the ghost? I’d say it’s more of a choice, I don’t agree with and choose not to do it. Those who do boo, aren’t supporters in my opinion. It’s a weak response to a strained situation. My advise to people who plan to boo if things don’t go well is to stay away in the first place. Don't do it as a rule, have done a few times but if people want to it's up to them, they pay their money so they are entitled to an opinion.
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Post by Pricey on Apr 19, 2024 8:06:11 GMT
I’d say it’s more of a choice, I don’t agree with and choose not to do it. Those who do boo, aren’t supporters in my opinion. It’s a weak response to a strained situation. My advise to people who plan to boo if things don’t go well is to stay away in the first place. N ironically your name is gloryhunter🤦🏼♂️😂 it’s anything but a weak response imo….if they grafted n at least showed a bit of fight there would be no booing at all let’s be honest, it’s the sheer lack of desire n fight what pisses people off, they score n play well they get cheered..when they cower n show no balls they get booed…pretty much the same everywhere 🔴⚪️ Part of the problem is Laurent is the best of a bad bunch. I gave up on the guy when I saw him mutually congratulating Johnson in a “well-played mate” sort of way after we lost at home Southampton and both were dire. Half our team think they work harder and are better footballers than they actually are.
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Post by stokecitydom on Apr 19, 2024 8:31:47 GMT
I haven’t listened to the podcast, just seen some quotes & it’s all pretty pathetic from the club, just ignore it.
The captain of Stoke, who has scored & assisted a grand total of 2 whilst playing in an advanced midfield role, whilst we sit on perilously close to relegation, is surely expected to get some criticism.
The club & player should accept it & if they feel that it’s so wrong, do the talking on the pitch.
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Post by alsagerstoke on Apr 19, 2024 8:38:39 GMT
if i were Stoke i would stop RS from entering press conferences and from giving interviews, the timing is not coincidental and has some one has eluded to on here, there are a number of vale fans at RS and i am sure there will be some kind of internal investigation on why that has been clipped up in the way that it has and dropped a few days before a huge match....RS has thrown Ang under the bus.....shocking journalism from all concerned at RS . Freedom of the press and people having a voice is fine ..but It’s a salutary lesson for all who engage with the Media of the tricks they play , in this case RS ..they’re not your friend , it’s not a light entertainment business it’s an industry based on control and managing news. one built on dark arts to suit their aims.. Click bait to attract views and the increased numbers to the next thrilling instalment is one thing , Arsenal fan TV are the masters , they pick a group of ego chasing individuals and use them for their own financial gain . This being the BBC doesn’t mean you’re safe from such tactics far from it , being the BBC though makes it a little darker than AFTV , it’s been done to create views sure, but also clipped to undermine and cause a split amongst fans and between fans and club at an important time .. you have to ask yourself why would RS do that and if you wish to engage with them in the future They give people a stage , ask on the face of bland ( leading ) questions , set the fuse and stand well back and watch the fireworks Clubs and high profile business ( especially those listed on the FTSE ) arnt adverse to managing news themselves of course , it’s why they have media departments and send their senior employees on expensive media courses not only to learn presentation skills but also defensive interview techniques ..( compare TPs interviews when he first arrived at the club and those later after he’d attended media course ahead of the Prem years ) ..it’s why managers / MPs interviews are bland and any question posed quickly turned around to ensure only the party message of unity is given Its why the media , in this case look elsewhere for their fall guys ..it’s car crash stuff for the individual , bottle of bubbly time for the presenter and the producer Presumably in this case the club saw the clip as damaging and requested its removal at again a presumably fairly high level , no doubt under the valed ( sic ) threat of limiting future access to RS In truth stunts like this don’t help anyone , least of all fans , the individual gets thrown under the bus for a couple of days and in the longer term interviews with the club become even more beige I agree with everything you say and I also believe this is the way the media works, but for a local radio station to pull this stunt for a few clicks( and it is a few we are not Real Madrid) at this time has crossed a line, I hope scfc go out of their way to make an example of them on what will and won’t be tolerated.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 19, 2024 8:43:42 GMT
I’d say it’s more of a choice, I don’t agree with and choose not to do it. Those who do boo, aren’t supporters in my opinion. It’s a weak response to a strained situation. My advise to people who plan to boo if things don’t go well is to stay away in the first place. N ironically your name is gloryhunter🤦🏼♂️😂 it’s anything but a weak response imo….if they grafted n at least showed a bit of fight there would be no booing at all let’s be honest, it’s the sheer lack of desire n fight what pisses people off, they score n play well they get cheered..when they cower n show no balls they get booed…pretty much the same everywhere 🔴⚪️ In my opinion I think gradually since Schumacher has come in that there is more fight in this team. We've definitely developed an ability to not give up on going a goal down. Recent comebacks have shown that. And the crowd have responded positively in my view. Of course we'd have hoped for a quicker revival but I definitely see us becoming more of a force over this last 16 weeks since he came in. That said the goal scoring issue remains a problem. We need someone to step up this last 3 games and find the back of the net. Josh Laurent has the chance to ram some criticism down a few people's throats. And if that happens everyone is a winner 👍
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 19, 2024 8:55:55 GMT
At this point in time - totally out of order Twig brained woman should be sacked from Radio Stoke and banned by the club ! To be fair, it was about 2 minutes of an hour+ audio podcast, released 3 or 4 days ago - which attracted no attention in context. I don't think the views are particularly outrageous and doubt the participants thought it was going to be aired like this, in this format, as a direct attack on him. The strange thing is why somebody has decided to clip it up and dangle it as social media bait like this 2 days before a huge game. Totally agree and Rob Adcock needs to be asked why he thought it was a good idea to do it. I'm not surprised to be fair, Adcock is a tit.
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 19, 2024 10:41:58 GMT
As if this got 5 pages, a throwaway comment which is far tamer than most think of JL.
If this effects his performance for the worst then 1) not sure that possible and 2) he's just backing up the fact hes weak and far from captain material. If it spurs him on and performs well then he needs to look at himself and ask why it took a mild comment for him to actually do something.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 19, 2024 11:24:40 GMT
There has been some really unfair targeting of Ange imo on this board and this is another instance where something has been taken totally out of proportion and context.
If Ange would have been more complementary about the player, some folk would be throwing their arms up in the air about that too. Whatever she said was her honest opinion, was courteous, and expressed in a constructive way. That is clear.
Too much over-reaction to critical debate going on here which is bordering on the personal.
Having an opinion is one thing but there is a fine line here with comments that are too focused on individuals, especially someone whose loyalty to this club should not be questioned. Folk should think a bit more before diving in. For myself, I know I have dived in in the past with one or two posters but I would like to think I have learned something from that and I don't think that was the right approach on reflection .
Its also encouraging to see some of the support Ange is getting here from the majority of fans. We all want us to win tomorrow, I have no doubts about that.
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 19, 2024 11:54:19 GMT
There has been some really unfair targeting of Ange imo on this board and this is another instance where something has been taken totally out of proportion and context. If Ange would have been more complementary about the player, some folk would be throwing their arms up in the air about that too. Whatever she said was her honest opinion, was courteous, and expressed in a constructive way. That is clear. Too much over-reaction to critical debate going on here which is bordering on the personal. Having an opinion is one thing but there is a fine line here with comments that are too focused on individuals, especially someone whose loyalty to this club should not be questioned. Folk should think a bit more before diving in. For myself, I know I have dived in in the past with one or two posters but I would like to think I have learned something from that and I don't think that was the right approach on reflection . Its also encouraging to see some of the support Ange is getting here from the majority of fans. We all want us to win tomorrow, I have no doubts about that. Woman has an opinion on football.... arghhh time to lose my head over it! Sad thing is some of them will have daughters, wonderful example to set.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 19, 2024 11:56:53 GMT
Regardless of whether she is correct in her opinion or not isnt the point.The point is she should keep such controversial opinions which may or may not have a detrmental effect to herself.We need all hands on deck at the moment not somone spouted off without any thought of consequences. One more thing the comment "If anyone feels that my comments are wrong so be it" stinks of smugness and arrogance.If I never see or hear from her again I wont be upset.See ya Ange. Utter bollocks, I'm afraid. It was from something released last Sunday in a segment on a podcast. Someone hasn't just Skyped her yesterday asking for her opinion on Josh Laurent and she's slated him (which she hasn't anyway, really). The problem isn't with the comment/s made on the podcast at all (on reflection, some are quite harsh and I'm surprised they passed the editing if much is needed for a generally tame/jokey fan podcast), it's the fact that someone at RS has decided to release it days later in an apparently inflammatory manner. The comments, given the amount of people who actually probably listen to the podcast, would have disappeared into obscurity had someone not decided to dig them up last night.
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 19, 2024 12:01:22 GMT
Absolutely nothing controversial saying Laurent is a wank captain. It's about an controversial as saying water is wet.
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Post by canadianmoose on Apr 19, 2024 12:14:18 GMT
He is a mountain of a man who does not use any of his physicality in a meaningful way on the football pitch.
I think the frustration comes from the fact that he could clearly be one hell of a midfielder but does not show enough desire or intent on a regular basis.
Nothing wrong with what Ange said about him. Its the same thing that gets said by many people week after week. He HAS been disappointing. No way of glossing over that fact. Better he knows this than walking around with the Beats headphones on thinking he is a Stoke City version of Zidane.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 19, 2024 12:48:33 GMT
Regardless of whether she is correct in her opinion or not isnt the point.The point is she should keep such controversial opinions which may or may not have a detrmental effect to herself.We need all hands on deck at the moment not somone spouted off without any thought of consequences. One more thing the comment "If anyone feels that my comments are wrong so be it" stinks of smugness and arrogance.If I never see or hear from her again I wont be upset.See ya Ange. The absolute state of this post. Firstly - “such controversial opinions” 😂😂😂 Secondly - so if somebody on a podcast has a “correct” opinion on Stoke but it may have a “detrimental effect”, they should……? Not speak? Lie? Not go on the podcast at all? What about in general, can they speak to people in the pub? On here, are “detrimental” opinions allowed? Shall we have a look through your posting history? Thirdly - do you know what the words smugness and arrogance mean? She’s saying she accepts it if people disagree with her comments, it’s literally the opposite of arrogance Finally - “If I never see or hear from her again I wont be upset”. You do know there are actions you can take to realise this dream of yours? E.g. not clicking on threads with her name in or listening to podcasts on which she appears?
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 19, 2024 13:08:31 GMT
I’d say it’s more of a choice, I don’t agree with and choose not to do it. Those who do boo, aren’t supporters in my opinion. It’s a weak response to a strained situation. My advise to people who plan to boo if things don’t go well is to stay away in the first place. N ironically your name is gloryhunter🤦🏼♂️😂 it’s anything but a weak response imo….if they grafted n at least showed a bit of fight there would be no booing at all let’s be honest, it’s the sheer lack of desire n fight what pisses people off, they score n play well they get cheered..when they cower n show no balls they get booed…pretty much the same everywhere 🔴⚪️ Exactly. If all the players left the pitch like Bae does (I.e., absolutely knackered after giving everything to the cause), fans would at least appreciate that we are just shit. It’s one thing being shit, it’s another being shit and disinterested.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Apr 19, 2024 13:08:37 GMT
I get the anger, I get the post from whoever was ill timed. I get that fans are unhappy with that. The problem for me is not the anger, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but why is my name used in the title of this thread? That in itself is inflammatory in my opinion. It's almost as if no one has monitored the thread nor considered what other comments were made when answering the same question? I hope Josh plays out of his skin at the weekend and if he wants to celebrate in front of me, great. I want us to win. I always want us to win. People can criticise me for expressing an honest opinion when asked a question, take it out of context, whatever, but referring to my age, sex and family is a little low, and sadly seems to be the norm for some. I suggest people might listen to my words and if you disagree, fine, but posting Ill informed comments (at best) based on what someone THINKS that I said might be questionable, maybe worse. Surely I shouldn't be held responsible for someone's ill timed clickbait or have other peoples words attributed to me? Finally for the ill educated who have suggested that I'm a Vale fan, wow! In the greater picture of the podcast I have no issue with anything that was said. Personally Ange, I think you've been let down by Radio Stoke in the way they clipped it and the timing of the release.
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Post by Eggybread on Apr 19, 2024 13:36:14 GMT
Regardless of whether she is correct in her opinion or not isnt the point.The point is she should keep such controversial opinions which may or may not have a detrmental effect to herself.We need all hands on deck at the moment not somone spouted off without any thought of consequences. One more thing the comment "If anyone feels that my comments are wrong so be it" stinks of smugness and arrogance.If I never see or hear from her again I wont be upset.See ya Ange. The absolute state of this post. Firstly - “such controversial opinions” 😂😂😂 Secondly - so if somebody on a podcast has a “correct” opinion on Stoke but it may have a “detrimental effect”, they should……? Not speak? Lie? Not go on the podcast at all? What about in general, can they speak to people in the pub? On here, are “detrimental” opinions allowed? Shall we have a look through your posting history? Thirdly - do you know what the words smugness and arrogance mean? She’s saying she accepts it if people disagree with her comments, it’s literally the opposite of arrogance Finally - “If I never see or hear from her again I wont be upset”. You do know there are actions you can take to realise this dream of yours? E.g. not clicking on threads with her name in or listening to podcasts on which she appears? And guess what I dont agree with your passsive agreessive post either pal. The quotes were published on the BBC website for all and sundry to see and comment on,which I have.She should have kept her gob shut end of.I totally stand by my post. Happy days.x
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Post by Eggybread on Apr 19, 2024 13:39:27 GMT
Regardless of whether she is correct in her opinion or not isnt the point.The point is she should keep such controversial opinions which may or may not have a detrmental effect to herself.We need all hands on deck at the moment not somone spouted off without any thought of consequences. One more thing the comment "If anyone feels that my comments are wrong so be it" stinks of smugness and arrogance.If I never see or hear from her again I wont be upset.See ya Ange. Utter bollocks, I'm afraid. It was from something released last Sunday in a segment on a podcast. Someone hasn't just Skyped her yesterday asking for her opinion on Josh Laurent and she's slated him (which she hasn't anyway, really). The problem isn't with the comment/s made on the podcast at all (on reflection, some are quite harsh and I'm surprised they passed the editing if much is needed for a generally tame/jokey fan podcast), it's the fact that someone at RS has decided to release it days later in an apparently inflammatory manner. The comments, given the amount of people who actually probably listen to the podcast, would have disappeared into obscurity had someone not decided to dig them up last night. They were not dug up they were posted on the BBC for all to see and reply to. As to whether she said them last week or yesterday isnt important she said what she said at a critical time for our club.You may be happy with influencial broadcasters and pundits to slate/slag off the club at such a time but Im not.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 19, 2024 13:48:10 GMT
Can't wait for those who have given Angela dogs abuse (again) for having a very tame opinion on a player, to go completely fucking apeshit when Plymouth go 1-0 up tomorrow or Tyrese makes a mistake.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 19, 2024 13:51:08 GMT
Utter bollocks, I'm afraid. It was from something released last Sunday in a segment on a podcast. Someone hasn't just Skyped her yesterday asking for her opinion on Josh Laurent and she's slated him (which she hasn't anyway, really). The problem isn't with the comment/s made on the podcast at all (on reflection, some are quite harsh and I'm surprised they passed the editing if much is needed for a generally tame/jokey fan podcast), it's the fact that someone at RS has decided to release it days later in an apparently inflammatory manner. The comments, given the amount of people who actually probably listen to the podcast, would have disappeared into obscurity had someone not decided to dig them up last night. They were not dug up they were posted on the BBC for all to see and reply to. As to whether she said them last week or yesterday isnt important she said what she said at a critical time for our club.You may be happy with influencial broadcasters and pundits to slate/slag off the club at such a time but Im not. You are right. She should have said that Stoke are in a “false position” and that under the supreme leadership of Josh Laurent, who will one day join the likes of Ronaldo and Messi in the G.O.A.T discussion, we will thrash Plymouth and survive easily.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 19, 2024 13:52:07 GMT
Utter bollocks, I'm afraid. It was from something released last Sunday in a segment on a podcast. Someone hasn't just Skyped her yesterday asking for her opinion on Josh Laurent and she's slated him (which she hasn't anyway, really). The problem isn't with the comment/s made on the podcast at all (on reflection, some are quite harsh and I'm surprised they passed the editing if much is needed for a generally tame/jokey fan podcast), it's the fact that someone at RS has decided to release it days later in an apparently inflammatory manner. The comments, given the amount of people who actually probably listen to the podcast, would have disappeared into obscurity had someone not decided to dig them up last night. They were not dug up they were posted on the BBC for all to see and reply to. As to whether she said them last week or yesterday isnt important she said what she said at a critical time for our club.You may be happy with influencial broadcasters and pundits to slate/slag off the club at such a time but Im not. The podcast in this form has been going on for weeks. Have a listen to the post Norwich and Swansea ones if you want to hear slating. I have no idea who clipped this and released it, or why they did it.
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Post by Eggybread on Apr 19, 2024 13:55:31 GMT
They were not dug up they were posted on the BBC for all to see and reply to. As to whether she said them last week or yesterday isnt important she said what she said at a critical time for our club.You may be happy with influencial broadcasters and pundits to slate/slag off the club at such a time but Im not. You are right. She should have said that Stoke are in a “false position” and that under the supreme leadership of Josh Laurent, who will one day join the likes of Ronaldo and Messi in the G.O.A.T discussion, we will thrash Plymouth and survive easily. Whatever you unfunny clown.
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Post by questionable on Apr 19, 2024 14:01:28 GMT
He is a mountain of a man who does not use any of his physicality in a meaningful way on the football pitch. I think the frustration comes from the fact that he could clearly be one hell of a midfielder but does not show enough desire or intent on a regular basis. Nothing wrong with what Ange said about him. Its the same thing that gets said by many people week after week. He HAS been disappointing. No way of glossing over that fact. Better he knows this than walking around with the Beats headphones on thinking he is a Stoke City version of Zidane. The lady is only stating what’s clearly on the pitch in front of her, for years we’ve craved this type of commentary and when the obvious is mentioned it’s ooohhh you can’t say that about our Josh, why?? Honestly twitter is a complete jizz fest supporting him, embarrassing seeing he’s probably had 3-4 good games since he’s been here. Will this kind of attention spur him on tomorrow I very much doubt it, he’ll go hiding yet again probably alongside Baker, let’s not forget when we were getting dicked under AN this bloke couldn’t even stand up in front of the cameras.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 19, 2024 14:04:39 GMT
He is a mountain of a man who does not use any of his physicality in a meaningful way on the football pitch. I think the frustration comes from the fact that he could clearly be one hell of a midfielder but does not show enough desire or intent on a regular basis. Nothing wrong with what Ange said about him. Its the same thing that gets said by many people week after week. He HAS been disappointing. No way of glossing over that fact. Better he knows this than walking around with the Beats headphones on thinking he is a Stoke City version of Zidane. The lady is only stating what’s clearly on the pitch in front of her, for years we’ve craved this type of commentary and when the obvious is mentioned it’s ooohhh you can’t say that about our Josh, why?? Honestly twitter is a complete jizz fest supporting him, embarrassing seeing he’s probably had 3-4 good games since he’s been here. Will this kind of attention spur him on tomorrow I very much doubt it, he’ll go hiding yet again probably alongside Baker, let’s not forget when we were getting dicked under AN this bloke couldn’t even stand up in front of the cameras. This. It seems that all the shit we've seen for 7 years is ok, but when Angela Smith says something that many actually think, all hell is let loose. The abuse she has got in the last 24 hours is utterly pathetic and says more about them than her. As a fanbase, we've asked Radio Stoke for years to be more upfront and speak their mind.....she does and gets pelters. But in all this, the true villains are the radio station that cropped and published this, knowing full well what she would get. I wonder if some would be more accepting if her name was Andrew Smith?
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Post by spitshaw on Apr 19, 2024 14:08:33 GMT
Ange is Stoke through and through and very knowledgeable and she hasn't done anything wrong here. Let's be honest she mostly only gets singled out because she's a woman. Radio stoke probably shouldn't have clipped and shared it on the eve of such a big game but I have a feeling Laurent will have a monster game tomorrow now. Either way I hope all the drama doesn't affect the podcast that's not a podcast as it's always an enjoyable listen
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 19, 2024 14:16:14 GMT
My personal view is Angela always has th best intent faultless in that aspect
I actually think Laurent gets a bit f hard time personally , the wort run of fome of the season was whn he’s as injured , he saved our bacon at Wednesday and we have a lot of issues with players and he s far form top of the list .
I think he starts tomorrow on merit and hope as Angela will he does well .
He is one for very long line of people saying sod hi off without any thought of his value to the team or how to replace see Brown , Tymon , Allen , Fox , etc etc etc
Radio stoke looking for a angle though is just plain unhelpful and never mid the manager you’d like to think thr owners might be having a quiet word
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 19, 2024 14:22:16 GMT
Utter bollocks, I'm afraid. It was from something released last Sunday in a segment on a podcast. Someone hasn't just Skyped her yesterday asking for her opinion on Josh Laurent and she's slated him (which she hasn't anyway, really). The problem isn't with the comment/s made on the podcast at all (on reflection, some are quite harsh and I'm surprised they passed the editing if much is needed for a generally tame/jokey fan podcast), it's the fact that someone at RS has decided to release it days later in an apparently inflammatory manner. The comments, given the amount of people who actually probably listen to the podcast, would have disappeared into obscurity had someone not decided to dig them up last night. They were not dug up they were posted on the BBC for all to see and reply to. As to whether she said them last week or yesterday isnt important she said what she said at a critical time for our club.You may be happy with influencial broadcasters and pundits to slate/slag off the club at such a time but Im not. Yet on other threads right now you're slagging off the club on a public forum for all and sundry to see and reply to, talking about the club being "shamed into" into paying for a player's medical bills. So it's ok for you but apparently not for Ange, who should be "keeping her gob shut". At what level of influential-ness is criticism of the club ok, and at what point should it start to be silenced? Or does it just depend on where the criticism is coming from?
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