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Post by ange1 on Apr 19, 2024 3:32:58 GMT
I was asked a question and gave my honest answer. Not one person on this or any other social media platform will be 100% pro any player every game. People may not have liked what I said, (they have omitted the fact that I said that Josh is clearly a popular figure around the club for example.) I hope that he has the game of his life on Saturday along with all the other Stoke players. If anyone feels that my comments are wrong so be it. I'll be 100% behind the team on Saturday and unlike some whatever the result will not stand booing the players off the pitch if the unthinkable happens and we lose. No issues with you expressing your opinion. And it’s a widely held one I think. But I do think it’s not really beneficial to the immediate aim which is get three points against Plymouth anyway and anyhow. There’s plenty of time if we avoid relegation to address the shortcomings of players and management. Right now we need to do everything we can to create some unity ahead of a huge game. And to be clear I don’t doubt you want the exact same outcome on Saturday as any Stoke supporter. I guess I just feel the comments could have been better timed. That's the whole point, these comments weren't made yesterday. This timing is nothing to do with me
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Post by questionable on Apr 19, 2024 5:15:23 GMT
I was asked a question and gave my honest answer. Not one person on this or any other social media platform will be 100% pro any player every game. People may not have liked what I said, (they have omitted the fact that I said that Josh is clearly a popular figure around the club for example.) I hope that he has the game of his life on Saturday along with all the other Stoke players. If anyone feels that my comments are wrong so be it. I'll be 100% behind the team on Saturday and unlike some whatever the result will not stand booing the players off the pitch if the unthinkable happens and we lose. You shouldn’t have to defend yourself by saying what you think, he’s a terrible player IMO and insanely made captain. It’s embarrassing on Twitter that people actually refer to him as Captain Fantastic
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Post by tuum on Apr 19, 2024 5:16:07 GMT
I don't get the anger at all. I think it is an over reaction to a very trivial issue.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 19, 2024 5:22:20 GMT
Glenn Whelan was far more scathing in his commentary, basically thinks he's shite and isn't switched on during games.
He needs dropping
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Post by pretzel on Apr 19, 2024 5:31:00 GMT
The state of this thread?
Reading some of the personal bile spouted on here by people I thought better of is quite depressing.
Having listened to the pod before reading this thread I thought nothing of it. It's a pod for heaven's sake! Someone gave an opinion.. its what podcasts are about.
The times presenters on Radio Stoke have been vilified for not having the balls to call the club/manager/players out for not giving their all to the cause, and now we're giving one of our own shit for giving what I thought to be a measured reply to a question during a live discussion?
I despair
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Post by Pricey on Apr 19, 2024 5:32:14 GMT
You just know he’s gonna dedicate that 35 yard screamer to Ange, even if we’re 4-0 down I’d be amazed if Laurent could hit the target from 35 yards, even with no defenders and an empty net. Did you see him in the Broxap challenge with the kids? If he wasn’t a unit he’d be playing non-league. One of the worst footballers I’ve seen play for us and I watched all of the 97-00 period.
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Post by knype on Apr 19, 2024 5:39:25 GMT
At this point in time - totally out of order Twig brained woman should be sacked from Radio Stoke and banned by the club ! To be fair, it was about 2 minutes of an hour+ audio podcast, released 3 or 4 days ago - which attracted no attention in context. I don't think the views are particularly outrageous and doubt the participants thought it was going to be aired like this, in this format, as a direct attack on him. The strange thing is why somebody has decided to clip it up and dangle it as social media bait like this 2 days before a huge game. There are a number of Vale fans at RS?
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 19, 2024 6:00:07 GMT
No issues with you expressing your opinion. And it’s a widely held one I think. But I do think it’s not really beneficial to the immediate aim which is get three points against Plymouth anyway and anyhow. There’s plenty of time if we avoid relegation to address the shortcomings of players and management. Right now we need to do everything we can to create some unity ahead of a huge game. And to be clear I don’t doubt you want the exact same outcome on Saturday as any Stoke supporter. I guess I just feel the comments could have been better timed. That's the whole point, these comments weren't made yesterday. This timing is nothing to do with me Ah ok. I didn’t realise that. Apologies. That’s on Radio Stoke then. What exactly are they trying to achieve!!??
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Post by frasier37 on Apr 19, 2024 6:25:54 GMT
Can't belive that anyone thinks this is a good idea just before one of our biggest matches for a good while. I'm no big fan of Laurent, but this just doesn't help matters. Strange isn't it?.....maybe a smoke screen was needed to cover up some recent bad PR building on twitter
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Post by alsagerstoke on Apr 19, 2024 6:33:14 GMT
if i were Stoke i would stop RS from entering press conferences and from giving interviews, the timing is not coincidental and has some one has eluded to on here, there are a number of vale fans at RS and i am sure there will be some kind of internal investigation on why that has been clipped up in the way that it has and dropped a few days before a huge match....RS has thrown Ang under the bus.....shocking journalism from all concerned at RS .
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Post by knype on Apr 19, 2024 6:37:44 GMT
Can't belive that anyone thinks this is a good idea just before one of our biggest matches for a good while. I'm no big fan of Laurent, but this just doesn't help matters. Strange isn't it?.....maybe a smoke screen was needed to cover up some recent bad PR building on twitter And the bad PR wasn't worthy of the attention either
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Post by frasier37 on Apr 19, 2024 6:46:02 GMT
Strange isn't it?.....maybe a smoke screen was needed to cover up some recent bad PR building on twitter And the bad PR wasn't worthy of the attention either oh right . But enough for them to U turn
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2024 7:05:57 GMT
We could win the next 6 and I’d stil want him sacked. Come all you want (ooh err) 🤣 And when we're top of the championship March 25 heading back to the Premier league?....... 😆 You will wake up from your dream.
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Post by knype on Apr 19, 2024 7:10:10 GMT
And the bad PR wasn't worthy of the attention either oh right . But enough for them to U turn Forced into it? How many women players at Stoke's level get their ops paid for by their clubs? I would imagine very, very little!
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Post by ange1 on Apr 19, 2024 7:14:14 GMT
That's the whole point, these comments weren't made yesterday. This timing is nothing to do with me Ah ok. I didn’t realise that. Apologies. That’s on Radio Stoke then. What exactly are they trying to achieve!!?? No idea, I was answering a question as politely as I could and trying to be balanced whilst doing so. The response to my comment has been baffling . Firstly why is this thread labelled with my name? There were 3 others, for what it's worth one 6ft 3 inches who probably said more, but I guess it might be easier to single me out with abuse for several reasons. I'll leave that to others to debate.
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Post by sticky on Apr 19, 2024 7:16:37 GMT
What’s all the fuss about👀 Ange has said what most think anyway and it’s RS who’ve droppped the tweet in. I’d imagine Josh Laurent feels more hurt when the fans boo and give him abuse after the games than somebody answering a question with a bit of criticism (all of which is warranted)
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 19, 2024 7:18:54 GMT
Ah ok. I didn’t realise that. Apologies. That’s on Radio Stoke then. What exactly are they trying to achieve!!?? No idea, I was answering a question as politely as I could and trying to be balanced whilst doing so. The response to my comment has been baffling . Firstly why is this thread labelled with my name? There were 3 others, for what it's worth one 6ft 3 inches who probably said more, but I guess it might be easier to single me out with abuse for several reasons. I'll leave that to others to debate. Not easy to single you out at all ange…can you explain the reasons as to why you think you’ve been singled out please?🔴⚪️
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Post by wilcopotter on Apr 19, 2024 7:21:25 GMT
Think this has been taken out of context and imo she’s in general correct in what she said. The podcast (that isn’t a podcast) is an hour long and Angela Smith wasn’t the only one critical of Laurent or other players for that matter. The podcast in its entirety is quite interesting (on BBC Sounds). In contrast, what are panel members supposed to say the players are great, the team are great when they quite clearly aren’t. I also agree with members of the panel, in that, we got lucky at Wednesday. Also, all panel members said we should stick with SS.
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Post by brutus on Apr 19, 2024 7:22:37 GMT
This has nothing to do with angela smith more to do with radio fucking stoke! But who cares anyway hopefully it gives him a kick up the arse tomorrow and he has a belter!
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Post by wilcopotter on Apr 19, 2024 7:23:22 GMT
Also, don’t boo the team myself, but can understand why some may. In short, we’ve been fucking abysmal this season.
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 19, 2024 7:28:41 GMT
I have no problem with anyone giving it Laurent, he's too weak to be captain, he isn't angry enough for me when we perform poorly. It's like he just shrugs his shoulders, plays it down and then move on to the next game. He needs an absolute rocket up his arse and he's the guy who should be doing it to the other players. I don't normally say much about players but he is the one player that really riles me up, he shouldn't be captain and shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. If he wants to be respected he needs to do a hell of a lot more because he just doesn't fill me with much confidence he has anything about him.
I think the fact he looks like he could be a beast of a player but seems more like a pussycat says it all about him. He needs to earn the fans respect because so far there's not 1 fan that wants him here. Could you imagine this guy in the 80/90's Wimbledon team? He wouldn't have lasted a day in that dressing room
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Post by wilcopotter on Apr 19, 2024 7:30:01 GMT
What’s all the fuss about👀 Ange has said what most think anyway and it’s RS who’ve droppped the tweet in. I’d imagine Josh Laurent feels more hurt when the fans boo and give him abuse after the games than somebody answering a question with a bit of criticism (all of which is warranted) Might help himself if he didn’t sound so half arsed in his post match interviews after we have just lost (again).
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 19, 2024 7:30:47 GMT
Ah ok. I didn’t realise that. Apologies. That’s on Radio Stoke then. What exactly are they trying to achieve!!?? No idea, I was answering a question as politely as I could and trying to be balanced whilst doing so. The response to my comment has been baffling . Firstly why is this thread labelled with my name? There were 3 others, for what it's worth one 6ft 3 inches who probably said more, but I guess it might be easier to single me out with abuse for several reasons. I'll leave that to others to debate. I agree. Not sure why you were singled out other than your higher profile which still doesn’t justify it. And some of the personal comments are bang out of order. As you know the personal stuff is not reflective of the majority of Stoke supporters who respect your opinions and know you’re as passionate about the club as anyone. For what it’s worth I’m pretty much in agreement with your comments about Josh Laurent. My only issue was the timing which clearly was nothing to do with you.
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Post by sticky on Apr 19, 2024 7:31:16 GMT
Also, don’t boo the team myself, but can understand why some may. In short, we’ve been fucking abysmal this season. Absymal for the vast majority of the last 6 years…Now I get this is a new team now, and shouldn’t be judged by the past but that’s just human nature.. Fans are frustrated (putting it mildly) and rightly so. Lets hope they put in a performance to keep us safe tomorrow or a tweet will be the least of there worries
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 19, 2024 7:35:11 GMT
Also, don’t boo the team myself, but can understand why some may. In short, we’ve been fucking abysmal this season. Absymal for the vast majority of the last 6 years…Now I get this is a new team now, and shouldn’t be judged by the past but that’s just human nature.. Fans are frustrated (putting it mildly) and rightly so. Lets hope they put in a performance to keep us safe tomorrow or a tweet will be the least of there worries Booing your own team or players, is for twats, though.
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Post by frasier37 on Apr 19, 2024 7:38:37 GMT
oh right . But enough for them to U turn Forced into it? How many women players at Stoke's level get their ops paid for by their clubs? I would imagine very, very little! Hmm, Billionaire football club owners [forced] into taking care of their probably, minimum wage players after serious career destroying injury playing for the good of red and white stripes Nah, fuckem eh? Every club shouldn't need shaming into looking after everyone of their players, never mind just one. Anyway Wrong thread for this shit
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Post by Scouse on Apr 19, 2024 7:38:55 GMT
if i were Stoke i would stop RS from entering press conferences and from giving interviews, the timing is not coincidental and has some one has eluded to on here, there are a number of vale fans at RS and i am sure there will be some kind of internal investigation on why that has been clipped up in the way that it has and dropped a few days before a huge match....RS has thrown Ang under the bus.....shocking journalism from all concerned at RS . Freedom of the press and people having a voice is fine ..but It’s a salutary lesson for all who engage with the Media of the tricks they play , in this case RS ..they’re not your friend , it’s not a light entertainment business it’s an industry based on control and managing news. one built on dark arts to suit their aims.. Click bait to attract views and the increased numbers to the next thrilling instalment is one thing , Arsenal fan TV are the masters , they pick a group of ego chasing individuals and use them for their own financial gain . This being the BBC doesn’t mean you’re safe from such tactics far from it , being the BBC though makes it a little darker than AFTV , it’s been done to create views sure, but also clipped to undermine and cause a split amongst fans and between fans and club at an important time .. you have to ask yourself why would RS do that and if you wish to engage with them in the future They give people a stage , ask on the face of bland ( leading ) questions , set the fuse and stand well back and watch the fireworks Clubs and high profile business ( especially those listed on the FTSE ) arnt adverse to managing news themselves of course , it’s why they have media departments and send their senior employees on expensive media courses not only to learn presentation skills but also defensive interview techniques ..( compare TPs interviews when he first arrived at the club and those later after he’d attended media course ahead of the Prem years ) ..it’s why managers / MPs interviews are bland and any question posed quickly turned around to ensure only the party message of unity is given Its why the media , in this case look elsewhere for their fall guys ..it’s car crash stuff for the individual , bottle of bubbly time for the presenter and the producer Presumably in this case the club saw the clip as damaging and requested its removal at again a presumably fairly high level , no doubt under the valed ( sic ) threat of limiting future access to RS In truth stunts like this don’t help anyone , least of all fans , the individual gets thrown under the bus for a couple of days and in the longer term interviews with the club become even more beige
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Post by knype on Apr 19, 2024 7:39:12 GMT
Absymal for the vast majority of the last 6 years…Now I get this is a new team now, and shouldn’t be judged by the past but that’s just human nature.. Fans are frustrated (putting it mildly) and rightly so. Lets hope they put in a performance to keep us safe tomorrow or a tweet will be the least of there worries Booing your own team or players, is for twats, though. Is it? Even when they look like they don't give a shit and give up the ghost?
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Post by barcaontrent on Apr 19, 2024 7:40:02 GMT
Her job is to commentate and report the games, which for the majority Laurent has been poor to say the least. I'd much rather that than her pretending he is captain fantastic now he's realised he might be in league 1 next year.
If Laurent downs tools or is impacted by Angela Smith criticising him, then he is an even weaker captain than I thought.
Should we all pretend they are 10/10 because they are now finally trying ( which is the bare minimum by the way) ?
I do think it is odd for Radio Stoke to put that out, but it isn't the fault of Angela Smith
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 19, 2024 7:43:04 GMT
Are you sure your not lauding ange cos she posts on here🤷🏼🔴⚪️
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