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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2024 21:23:13 GMT
Clapton? Ozzy? Jimmy Nail? George Michael? Roachford? I think George Michael was absolutely superb. His MTV unplugged thing he did back in the 90’s was brilliant and he was a great song writer
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 31, 2024 21:40:55 GMT
We got to page 2 without Morrissey?? Is it cos he’s a racist now
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2024 21:43:36 GMT
We got to page 2 without Morrissey?? Is it cos he’s a racist now
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Post by richie22 on Mar 31, 2024 21:47:28 GMT
We got to page 2 without Morrissey?? Is it cos he’s a racist now no because he’s an annoying twat
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Post by ChesterStokie on Mar 31, 2024 21:50:40 GMT
Nah. Lennon does not get the top 5. His legacy is based on the Beatles and Imagine. and Imagine, and Imagine? Blimey mate, you make it sound like it was something not actually that important. It has regularly topped polls all over the world as being the greatest song ever written, whereas Tom Jones didn't even write his own hits. In terms of your original criteria ... talent, star power and longevity, Lennon completely blows Tom Jones out of the water, most people outside of the UK wouldn't even know he is. And that's not to say that a solo Lennon only had one song. Happy Christmas War is Over, Instant Karma, Jealous Guy, Woman, Working Class Hero, Whatever Gets You Through the Night etc. etc. are all 24 carat monster songs of the highest caliber.
Yes of course, but if we are to stick to the OP's original criteria, that is SOLO artists, personally I would exclude the likes of Lennon, McCartney, Knopfler etc whose legacies are derived primarily from being part of a group, though with the likes of Clapton, Weller, Ferry, Sting etc it's much more of a grey area. Tom Jones wouldn't be anywhere near my list, but to be fair to the bloke plenty of people in the US know who he is, he had quite a few big hits there from 1965-70 and had a regular gig in Las Vegas for many years
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 31, 2024 21:52:29 GMT
We got to page 2 without Morrissey?? Is it cos he’s a racist now no because he’s an annoying twat We’ve had Cliff Richard and Robbie Williams, I didn’t think that was a disqualifier
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Post by lordb on Mar 31, 2024 21:54:00 GMT
If we are going by record sales, singles anyway, of solo artists I'd imagine Garry Glitter is quite high up the list
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2024 21:56:14 GMT
To be honest it’s quite a shallow pool when you think about it. I’m not keen on solo artists. Peter Gabriel would be up there for me
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Post by lordb on Mar 31, 2024 22:00:20 GMT
There's loads many I don't like such as Mick Hucknall
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Post by richie22 on Mar 31, 2024 22:10:14 GMT
no because he’s an annoying twat We’ve had Cliff Richard and Robbie Williams, I didn’t think that was a disqualifier cliff was a very good entertainer ( not for me I will say) Robbie is a phenomenal performer , that twat from Manchester is depressing suicidal shite
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Post by lordb on Mar 31, 2024 22:14:58 GMT
We’ve had Cliff Richard and Robbie Williams, I didn’t think that was a disqualifier cliff was a very good entertainer ( not for me I will say) Robbie is a phenomenal performer , that twat from Manchester is depressing suicidal shite He's a complete throbber but you can't deny his showmanship, he's just as much as an entertainer as they are just in a different way Wouldn't pay a penny to see any of them myself but I can listen to his records, can't listen to Cliffs
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 31, 2024 22:20:00 GMT
We’ve had Cliff Richard and Robbie Williams, I didn’t think that was a disqualifier cliff was a very good entertainer ( not for me I will say) Robbie is a phenomenal performer , that twat from Manchester is depressing suicidal shite He’s done decades of reliably really good solo albums which have just gone under the radar for the large part. I think he’s great but it’s all subjective I suppose
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2024 22:23:27 GMT
cliff was a very good entertainer ( not for me I will say) Robbie is a phenomenal performer , that twat from Manchester is depressing suicidal shite He’s done decades of reliably really good solo albums which have just gone under the radar for the large part. I think he’s great but it’s all subjective I suppose And his lyrics are mainly far from depressing.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 31, 2024 22:31:24 GMT
He’s done decades of reliably really good solo albums which have just gone under the radar for the large part. I think he’s great but it’s all subjective I suppose And his lyrics are mainly far from depressing. He’s a superb writer.. witty, warm, caustic.. often all at once. He should be more of a national institution really but he’d recoil from it anyway, he’s truly a non-conformist whatever else one might think of him.
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Post by pretzel on Mar 31, 2024 22:37:40 GMT
Off the top of my head, some that haven't been mentioned..
Seal Richard Thompson Martin Joseph John Smith Luke Jackson
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 31, 2024 22:54:05 GMT
and Imagine, and Imagine? Blimey mate, you make it sound like it was something not actually that important. It has regularly topped polls all over the world as being the greatest song ever written, whereas Tom Jones didn't even write his own hits. In terms of your original criteria ... talent, star power and longevity, Lennon completely blows Tom Jones out of the water, most people outside of the UK wouldn't even know he is. And that's not to say that a solo Lennon only had one song. Happy Christmas War is Over, Instant Karma, Jealous Guy, Woman, Working Class Hero, Whatever Gets You Through the Night etc. etc. are all 24 carat monster songs of the highest caliber.
Yes of course, but if we are to stick to the OP's original criteria, that is SOLO artists, personally I would exclude the likes of Lennon, McCartney, Knopfler etc whose legacies are derived primarily from being part of a group, though with the likes of Clapton, Weller, Ferry, Sting etc it's much more of a grey area. Tom Jones wouldn't be anywhere near my list, but to be fair to the bloke plenty of people in the US know who he is, he had quite a few big hits there from 1965-70 and had a regular gig in Las Vegas for many years But Lennon was a massive SOLO artist. If he had never even been in the Beatles and the world didn’t first become aware of him until 1970, then he would have still been a massive solo artist in his own right. I don't think he's been mentioned previously (he's not my cup of tea) but we can't discount Rod Stewart either, simply because he was in a successful band before going solo.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 31, 2024 22:56:41 GMT
Elvis Costello
Joe Jackson
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Post by professorplump on Apr 1, 2024 3:18:23 GMT
I would think Rod Stewart is worthy of a mention. Fixes potholes as well!
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 1, 2024 4:10:47 GMT
Nah. Lennon does not get the top 5. His legacy is based on the Beatles and imagine. and Imagine, and Imagine? Blimey mate, you make it sound like it was something not actually that important. It has regularly topped polls all over the world as being the greatest song ever written, whereas Tom Jones didn't even write his own hits. In terms of your original criteria ... talent, star power and longevity, Lennon completely blows Tom Jones out of the water, most people outside of the UK wouldn't even know he is. And that's not to say that a solo Lennon only had one song. Happy Christmas War is Over, Instant Karma, Jealous Guy, Woman, Working Class Hero, Whatever Gets You Through the Night etc. etc. are all 24 carat monster songs of the highest caliber.
Mother is a really great song. Freed from the band he was increasingly able to use the listener as therapist. His early solo albums had a real density of sound. In recent years I've cone round to realising how good much of Double Fantasy is. Beautiful Boy is heartbreaking for obvious reasons.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 1, 2024 4:35:15 GMT
Phil Collins carved out a decent career for himself.
Notice Chris deBurgh hasn't been mentioned🤔🙂
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Post by foster on Apr 1, 2024 5:00:14 GMT
Shout out for Rick Astley He played in Koln a few weeks back. Now that's Longevity.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 1, 2024 5:00:58 GMT
Ed Sheeran. Whether you like him or not, he’s spent over a decade writing and singing songs that top the charts + selling out huge international concerts.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 1, 2024 9:07:01 GMT
and Imagine, and Imagine? Blimey mate, you make it sound like it was something not actually that important. It has regularly topped polls all over the world as being the greatest song ever written, whereas Tom Jones didn't even write his own hits. In terms of your original criteria ... talent, star power and longevity, Lennon completely blows Tom Jones out of the water, most people outside of the UK wouldn't even know he is. And that's not to say that a solo Lennon only had one song. Happy Christmas War is Over, Instant Karma, Jealous Guy, Woman, Working Class Hero, Whatever Gets You Through the Night etc. etc. are all 24 carat monster songs of the highest caliber.
Yes of course, but if we are to stick to the OP's original criteria, that is SOLO artists, personally I would exclude the likes of Lennon, McCartney, Knopfler etc whose legacies are derived primarily from being part of a group, though with the likes of Clapton, Weller, Ferry, Sting etc it's much more of a grey area. Tom Jones wouldn't be anywhere near my list, but to be fair to the bloke plenty of people in the US know who he is, he had quite a few big hits there from 1965-70 and had a regular gig in Las Vegas for many years My point really was star power not necessarily talent. Robbie with swift at Wembley is easy to pull off he’s a massive star here. The likes of Lennon and McCartney were bigger stars in the band rather than solo artists. You could argue that George Michael is much bigger than wham And Tom Jones was a massive star
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Post by salopstick on Apr 1, 2024 9:07:32 GMT
Yes of course, but if we are to stick to the OP's original criteria, that is SOLO artists, personally I would exclude the likes of Lennon, McCartney, Knopfler etc whose legacies are derived primarily from being part of a group, though with the likes of Clapton, Weller, Ferry, Sting etc it's much more of a grey area. Tom Jones wouldn't be anywhere near my list, but to be fair to the bloke plenty of people in the US know who he is, he had quite a few big hits there from 1965-70 and had a regular gig in Las Vegas for many years But Lennon was a massive SOLO artist. If he had never even been in the Beatles and the world didn’t first become aware of him until 1970, then he would have still been a massive solo artist in his own right. I don't think he's been mentioned previously (he's not my cup of tea) but we can't discount Rod Stewart either, simply because he was in a successful band before going solo. Totally agree rod stewart. Super star
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 1, 2024 9:15:47 GMT
Bowie. Fat Reg. Phil Collins. Robbie Williams TJ.
You could also throw in John Lennon, and Paul McCartney, but more associated with the Beatles.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 1, 2024 9:18:28 GMT
Yes of course, but if we are to stick to the OP's original criteria, that is SOLO artists, personally I would exclude the likes of Lennon, McCartney, Knopfler etc whose legacies are derived primarily from being part of a group, though with the likes of Clapton, Weller, Ferry, Sting etc it's much more of a grey area. Tom Jones wouldn't be anywhere near my list, but to be fair to the bloke plenty of people in the US know who he is, he had quite a few big hits there from 1965-70 and had a regular gig in Las Vegas for many years But Lennon was a massive SOLO artist. If he had never even been in the Beatles and the world didn’t first become aware of him until 1970, then he would have still been a massive solo artist in his own right. I don't think he's been mentioned previously (he's not my cup of tea) but we can't discount Rod Stewart either, simply because he was in a successful band before going solo. Lennon wasn’t really a massive solo artist. He had a few hits all built on the Beatles legacy. I wouldn’t say McCartney had the greatest of solo careers after wings either All built on the Beatles. I would argue that none of the Beatles deserve the rock and roll hall of fame based on their solo work alone www.thepostathens.com/article/2023/04/solo-work-of-the-beatles#:~:text=Paul%20McCartney%20arguably%20found%20the,solo%20artist%20outside%20The%20Beatles.
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Post by lordb on Apr 1, 2024 9:21:24 GMT
But Lennon was a massive SOLO artist. If he had never even been in the Beatles and the world didn’t first become aware of him until 1970, then he would have still been a massive solo artist in his own right. I don't think he's been mentioned previously (he's not my cup of tea) but we can't discount Rod Stewart either, simply because he was in a successful band before going solo. Lennon wasn’t really a massive solo artist. He had a few hits all built on the Beatles legacy. I wouldn’t say McCartney had the greatest of solo careers after wings either All built on the Beatles. I would argue that none of the Beatles deserve the rock and roll hall of fame based on their solo work alone www.thepostathens.com/article/2023/04/solo-work-of-the-beatles#:~:text=Paul%20McCartney%20arguably%20found%20the,solo%20artist%20outside%20The%20Beatles. They both sold a hell of a lot of records If not using actual success as criteria then yes you can make that argument
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Post by crowey on Apr 1, 2024 9:25:16 GMT
….. don’t think anyone’s mentioned Thom Yorke.
Never been a huge Radiohead fan, but have a couple of their albums.
Thom Yorke’s The Eraser from 2006 is still one of my favourite albums. Black Swan being an awesome track.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 1, 2024 10:03:02 GMT
Chris Rea.
He did a short cameo on Mortimer and Whitehouse recently and you can tell he's put some miles in. He explained how few internal organs he's functioning on. Letters from Amsterdam, how he hit some of those notes!. Incredible.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 1, 2024 10:31:02 GMT
So I just watched this. And it led to a bit of discussion I don’t really start music threads but who are our best male solo artists? I was struggling to remember who should be in it Top 5 in (taking into account talent, star power, longevity etc ) Bowie Elton George Micheal Tom Jones? Robbie? Who is missing? That is fookin awesome, thanks for sharing. Love this guy to bits, and am proud to have him associated with our wonderful city
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