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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 3, 2024 13:44:21 GMT
Thought you’d wasted enough time already.
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Post by biddulphchav on Mar 3, 2024 14:24:51 GMT
Person’s legs have gone, he’s not the same player he was a few years ago. He could probably help himself by getting in better shape to be fair, he looks like a pub footballer. But even if he does, he doesn’t look very athletic and that’s what’s needed in the position he plays, unless the positioning is spot on, but his isn’t. He’ll be an ok squad player for us moving forward
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Post by idle on Mar 3, 2024 15:09:19 GMT
Fuck, even Burger was slated on here in August/September! Most on here slating Pearson don't seem to grasp that it hasn't been the midfield who's been our problem this season, it's been the non-scoring forwards and the once per game mistake at the back. Pearson could have been better, but that goes for the entire team. But hey, those slating him need to find someone to blame in their pathetic little existences. By slating you mean pointing out that he simply hasn't performed but feel free to convince yourself that he has . The manager has seen that and dropped him. I'll take his sad pathetic existence and knowledge over yours, no offence Pointing the blame elsewhere doesn't make Pearson's performances better. We've been trying to sell him for a reason. We were trying to sell 80% of the squad then. There's still a difference between being shit and not playing first fiddle. Pearson has a role to play (and will). Name me one player on here that hasn't been slated as shit in the last 6 years. It's fucking pathetic!
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 3, 2024 15:16:27 GMT
Fuck, even Burger was slated on here in August/September! Most on here slating Pearson don't seem to grasp that it hasn't been the midfield who's been our problem this season, it's been the non-scoring forwards and the once per game mistake at the back. Pearson could have been better, but that goes for the entire team. But hey, those slating him need to find someone to blame in their pathetic little existences. By slating you mean pointing out that he simply hasn't performed but feel free to convince yourself that he has . The manager has seen that and dropped him. I'll take his sad pathetic existence and knowledge over yours, no offence Pointing the blame elsewhere doesn't make Pearson's performances better. We've been trying to sell him for a reason. To be fair, the guy next to me yesterday slated Burger ALL GAME "Can't pass" "Too slow on the ball" "Out of position" "Not strong enough"
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Post by idle on Mar 3, 2024 15:16:49 GMT
Person’s legs have gone, he’s not the same player he was a few years ago. He could probably help himself by getting in better shape to be fair, he looks like a pub footballer. But even if he does, he doesn’t look very athletic and that’s what’s needed in the position he plays, unless the positioning is spot on, but his isn’t. He’ll be an ok squad player for us moving forward His body shape is about the same as Ilias Chair, but at least he only gets yellow cards and not prison sentences.
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Post by jokker on Mar 3, 2024 15:23:26 GMT
Amazed people are letting him off so lightly on this. Some of the posts above 😱 It's fucking disgusting behavior. It's my understanding he's one of, if not the highest paid player in the club, we've just won a huge game in a relegation scrap and you're in front of the best part of 20,000 fans who have watched your unacceptable performances week in week out. Show some respect and at least applaud the fans, if not your teammates. Fingers crossed we can get this guy out the club in the summer. He's been largely dire for us and frankly should count himself lucky he's on the bench. It would require a free transfer and someone to pay one of the highest wages in the division for the length of his current contract which runs three more seasons (four if he has a one year option). It's not going to happen. The only chance of his departure happening is if we pay a club to sign him and pay a portion or all of his wages at any taker's club. Not the smartest thing we did signing him for that long and on those terms. You'd think the club had never encountered the pitfalls of such contracts before, which we of course had.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 3, 2024 15:30:37 GMT
Joe Allen doesn't get in a Baker/Pearson/Burger/Laurent (in any combination) midfield. Swansea are not far off as bad as us, btw. Not at almost 34. None of the players you mentioned gets in a top half Premier League team at any point in their career. Burger will have a decent chance of it
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 3, 2024 16:21:30 GMT
I have a problem with it ( IF that was the reason). The whole point of SJWs brilliant rallying call was that everyone is in this together. He was on the pitch at the end and definitely should have acknowledged the crowd. He should ask the manager and then himself why he's not starting - probably because he hasn't shown last season's form, and possibly because he's also a walking card. On today's showing he will have a challenge taking the shirt off Burger, Laurent or Baker. I disagree. Rallying cries are all well and good but rarely solve anything unless processes, structure and personnel are in place. We won yesterday because we set up as we did under Alex Neil with a back four with traditional full backs and the press we used in the first half of the season. As Potterlytics mentioned this week, we have more solid defensive shape when Pearson is covering in midfield, whatever his limitations as a tackler, and Burger then has more creative licence - a positive as he is a much more aggressive passer than Baker and Laurent. Maybe Pearson feels he hasn’t done enough to share the plaudits, who knows? But we will need him as a player, I would start him at Leeds for sure But part of the rallying cry was that the subs should support those on the field and even those not in the match day squad should be in the stands cheering on. Walters asked for the crowd to raise the noise and support and that the players would respond which they did. He asked for unity. Walking off the pitch ahead of your teammates and not at least standing in the centre circle is not showing unity. I hate to be negative after yesterday but if he walked off as reported it is his fault he is being criticised.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2024 17:03:20 GMT
Person’s legs have gone, he’s not the same player he was a few years ago. He could probably help himself by getting in better shape to be fair, he looks like a pub footballer. But even if he does, he doesn’t look very athletic and that’s what’s needed in the position he plays, unless the positioning is spot on, but his isn’t. He’ll be an ok squad player for us moving forward Hrs exactly.the same player as he's always been in my eyes. An overrated hatchet man.
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Post by stantheman on Mar 3, 2024 18:26:59 GMT
Fairly sure he didn't warm up yesterday before coming on?
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Post by Gods on Mar 3, 2024 18:39:45 GMT
I don't think whatever he does he does he will look like some great athlete.
He's physically squat, and that ridiculous thatch of a fringe and minge of a beard don't help much.
I think we have to take him as he is.
Having said that he needs to stop getting booked within the first 5 minutes of every appearance, that's just plain stupidity.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 3, 2024 18:50:51 GMT
He's physically squat, and that crazy thatch of a fringe and minge of a beard don't help much. Is that a line from a rap battle
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Post by borat on Mar 3, 2024 19:13:30 GMT
How times change, remember when he was on loan and we were all desperate for him sign permanent, now he can't get a start and rightly so.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 3, 2024 19:19:19 GMT
I don’t think he’s long for this club tbh. He’s not played well all season, not sure what’s gone on but he’s deservedly on the bench. As for walking off at the end, well I don’t have too much of an issue with that, some players just aren’t that way inclined for whatever reason🤷🏻♂️
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 3, 2024 19:21:41 GMT
Needs to take up Hockey and become an enforcer.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Mar 3, 2024 19:27:33 GMT
Person’s legs have gone, he’s not the same player he was a few years ago. He could probably help himself by getting in better shape to be fair, he looks like a pub footballer. But even if he does, he doesn’t look very athletic and that’s what’s needed in the position he plays, unless the positioning is spot on, but his isn’t. He’ll be an ok squad player for us moving forward Sell him in the summer.
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Post by Gods on Mar 3, 2024 19:34:07 GMT
I don’t think he’s long for this club tbh. He’s not played well all season, not sure what’s gone on but he’s deservedly on the bench. As for walking off at the end, well I don’t have too much of an issue with that, some players just aren’t that way inclined for whatever reason🤷🏻♂️ Yep, I'm fine with him just walking walking off at the end of the match, not every player is up for the post-match histrionics, I'm not mad keen on it myself.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 3, 2024 19:48:20 GMT
I disagree. Rallying cries are all well and good but rarely solve anything unless processes, structure and personnel are in place. We won yesterday because we set up as we did under Alex Neil with a back four with traditional full backs and the press we used in the first half of the season. As Potterlytics mentioned this week, we have more solid defensive shape when Pearson is covering in midfield, whatever his limitations as a tackler, and Burger then has more creative licence - a positive as he is a much more aggressive passer than Baker and Laurent. Maybe Pearson feels he hasn’t done enough to share the plaudits, who knows? But we will need him as a player, I would start him at Leeds for sure But part of the rallying cry was that the subs should support those on the field and even those not in the match day squad should be in the stands cheering on. Walters asked for the crowd to raise the noise and support and that the players would respond which they did. He asked for unity. Walking off the pitch ahead of your teammates and not at least standing in the centre circle is not showing unity. I hate to be negative after yesterday but if he walked off as reported it is his fault he is being criticised. And as I said, maybe he felt he didn’t deserve the credit. The unity stuff is overdone. We have players way bette Ethan their league position, we need to pick the right ones in the correct positions not go all Kevin Keegan. I honestly don’t care whether the players clap the fans or not. If they win games they can do what they like.
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Post by Praetorian on Mar 4, 2024 1:33:42 GMT
I don't think whatever he does he does he will look like some great athlete. He's physically squat, and that ridiculous thatch of a fringe and minge of a beard don't help much. I think we have to take him as he is. Having said that he needs to stop getting booked within the first 5 minutes of every appearance, that's just plain stupidity. This has me dying, I've a friend who's ex shagged him!! Ahahaha
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Post by jokker on Mar 4, 2024 7:50:07 GMT
How times change, remember when he was on loan and we were all desperate for him sign permanent, now he can't get a start and rightly so. Speak for yourself! I never really liked him. He was always trouble when we played against him, and now that he's playing for us, he's trouble of a different kind. I never wanted us to sign him permanently, and I said so more than once, but was told to shut it. Can he return to better playing ways? Yes by the time his contract is running down, he will turn it on. But that's a long, long wait further down the line.
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Post by premieraj on Mar 4, 2024 8:28:18 GMT
Crikey his form hadn’t been good but we may need him if we pick up injuries cut him a bit of slack. He’s probably unhappy hopefully to not be playing and he’d only been on a few mins so let the main lads get the credit.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 4, 2024 9:22:04 GMT
I don’t think he’s long for this club tbh. He’s not played well all season, not sure what’s gone on but he’s deservedly on the bench. As for walking off at the end, well I don’t have too much of an issue with that, some players just aren’t that way inclined for whatever reason🤷🏻♂️ Yep, I'm fine with him just walking walking off at the end of the match, not every player is up for the post-match histrionics, I'm not mad keen on it myself. Doesn't have to be histrionics, Godfrey, just following his teammates in showing some appreciation to the crowd who gave the team excellent backing throughout the game. [
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Post by nott1 on Mar 4, 2024 9:32:56 GMT
Yep, I'm fine with him just walking walking off at the end of the match, not every player is up for the post-match histrionics, I'm not mad keen on it myself. Doesn't have to be histrionics, Godfrey, just showing following his teammates in showing some appreciation to the crowd who gave the team excellent backing throughout the game. [ He was probably exhausted with all that effort he made in his 10 minute cameo!
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 4, 2024 9:42:01 GMT
Looks like we got us a new Joe Allen! We don’t like grafters in dees partz. The bloke that 95% of our fanbase couldn’t wait to return and now he’s the new scapegoat🤷♂️Pathetic He's garbage and alongside Johnson never should have been brought to the club.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 4, 2024 9:49:38 GMT
The bloke that 95% of our fanbase couldn’t wait to return and now he’s the new scapegoat🤷♂️Pathetic He's garbage and alongside Johnson never should have been brought to the club. You said that at the time did you🤔
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 4, 2024 10:03:02 GMT
Amazed people are letting him off so lightly on this. Some of the posts above 😱 It's fucking disgusting behavior. It's my understanding he's one of, if not the highest paid player in the club, we've just won a huge game in a relegation scrap and you're in front of the best part of 20,000 fans who have watched your unacceptable performances week in week out. Show some respect and at least applaud the fans, if not your teammates. Fingers crossed we can get this guy out the club in the summer. He's been largely dire for us and frankly should count himself lucky he's on the bench. It would require a free transfer and someone to pay one of the highest wages in the division for the length of his current contract which runs three more seasons (four if he has a one year option). It's not going to happen. The only chance of his departure happening is if we pay a club to sign him and pay a portion or all of his wages at any taker's club. Not the smartest thing we did signing him for that long and on those terms. You'd think the club had never encountered the pitfalls of such contracts before, which we of course had. He'd just turned 28 when we signed him on loan in January last year, in the prime of his career and with a reputation for being one of the best DMs in this division over several seasons. He proved that quality for us last season, giving us the bite and steel in midfield we had been craving, and no one can argue his performances were a large part of why our form picked up. It made perfect sense to sign him on a 3-year deal and we were all delighted. For whatever reason, he just hasn't been on it. He's only 29 now, so the excuse his legs have gone don't cut it for me.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 4, 2024 10:04:11 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 4, 2024 10:05:18 GMT
I have a problem with it ( IF that was the reason). The whole point of SJWs brilliant rallying call was that everyone is in this together. He was on the pitch at the end and definitely should have acknowledged the crowd. He should ask the manager and then himself why he's not starting - probably because he hasn't shown last season's form, and possibly because he's also a walking card. On today's showing he will have a challenge taking the shirt off Burger, Laurent or Baker. I disagree. Rallying cries are all well and good but rarely solve anything unless processes, structure and personnel are in place. We won yesterday because we set up as we did under Alex Neil with a back four with traditional full backs and the press we used in the first half of the season. As Potterlytics mentioned this week, we have more solid defensive shape when Pearson is covering in midfield, whatever his limitations as a tackler, and Burger then has more creative licence - a positive as he is a much more aggressive passer than Baker and Laurent. Maybe Pearson feels he hasn’t done enough to share the plaudits, who knows? But we will need him as a player, I would start him at Leeds for sure I disagree that we disagree, Mark ! I certainly don't see a call for unity and strong support from the crowd as being an alternative to getting the correct processes, structure and personnel in place - very far from it. The Club have recently made a change in the personnel of the off-field football side of the business. Like the rest of us, I don't really know the nature of the problems that was designed to solve, but obviously hope that things will improve as a result. That gave a new role for SJW and I think it was clear that his rallying call had a really positive effect on the crowd, which must have helped the team on the pitch. The atmosphere was like chalk and cheese compared to many home games this season. On Pearson specifically, I was only disagreeing with the poster's view that he didn't have a problem with BP walking off if he was pissed off at not being in the starting 11 (IF that was the reason). I'm not asking that he rips his shirt off and does a jig in front of the Boothen End, only that he joins with his teammates in showing appreciation to the crowd. Not too much to ask surely ? I merely speculated on why two managers haven't been starting him, but of course I might be wrong. I think most fans would agree that this season he hasn't shown the form he did last season. It's a conversation he has no doubt had with the manager. I'm no football tactician, but I agree with you that the formation and tactics probably also had a lot to do with the win. Credit to the manager for that. But I also think that the three central midfielders all had very good games ( as indeed did the whole team, really) which, as I said, I think makes it more difficult for BP to get the shirt back. We all have our views on individual players and formations (no Stoke City team which I have selected and prepared for a game has ever lost ). If the manager agrees with you and decides for tomorrow's away game at one of the best teams in the division that Ben should start - that's fine by me and I'll cheer him a loudly as the rest of the team.
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Post by cyprus1stokey on Mar 4, 2024 10:16:41 GMT
He's garbage and alongside Johnson never should have been brought to the club. You said that at the time did you🤔
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Post by cyprus1stokey on Mar 4, 2024 10:17:33 GMT
Along with his mate Stevens
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