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Post by superpotter on Mar 3, 2024 7:46:30 GMT
When he doesn’t keep slowing the play down and stops getting yellow cards maybe he will get more minutes
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 3, 2024 8:04:41 GMT
he's one of the highest paid, he's on a big contract, it would be nice to see him show some professionalism and responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2024 8:31:16 GMT
Looks like we got us a new Joe Allen! We don’t like grafters in dees partz. The bloke that 95% of our fanbase couldn’t wait to return and now he’s the new scapegoat🤷♂️Pathetic Not me, he's wank. If he was half as good a footballer as Joe Allen he'd be in this team
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Post by mattythestokie on Mar 3, 2024 8:38:16 GMT
Can’t imagine he has much of a serious issue if SS is willing to bring him on in the game.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Mar 3, 2024 8:48:22 GMT
Joe Allen wasn't scapegoated. He was rightly recognised as being absolutely shit. We were better with him. He would improve our squad/ team. Currently starting for a team that’s doing better than us. Joe Allen doesn't get in a Baker/Pearson/Burger/Laurent (in any combination) midfield. Swansea are not far off as bad as us, btw.
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Post by idle on Mar 3, 2024 8:51:03 GMT
He’s shit. Should be one of the first we get rid of. Only for the wages sake. He's good enough to play a part here IMO. Typical fickle backstabbing fans, ready to stick the knife in at the first sign of poor form.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 3, 2024 9:02:50 GMT
He’s shit. Should be one of the first we get rid of. Only for the wages sake. He's good enough to play a part here IMO. Typical fickle backstabbing fans, ready to stick the knife in at the first sign of poor form. No fickleness here, he’s looked a pub footballer all season.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 3, 2024 9:07:09 GMT
Never wanted him back in the first place. I'd be happy to never see him in a Stoke shirt again.
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 3, 2024 9:22:50 GMT
We were better with him. He would improve our squad/ team. Currently starting for a team that’s doing better than us. Joe Allen doesn't get in a Baker/Pearson/Burger/Laurent (in any combination) midfield. Swansea are not far off as bad as us, btw. Not at almost 34. None of the players you mentioned gets in a top half Premier League team at any point in their career. 4 points and 7 places better right now. Hopefully we’ll make that up by May.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 3, 2024 9:26:15 GMT
He’s shit. Should be one of the first we get rid of. Only for the wages sake. He's good enough to play a part here IMO. Typical fickle backstabbing fans, ready to stick the knife in at the first sign of poor form. By backstabbing fans you mean stating that he's been nowhere good enough which he clearly hasn't ?
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Post by frasier37 on Mar 3, 2024 9:43:40 GMT
And still we go hate hunting
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Post by skip on Mar 3, 2024 10:26:28 GMT
Does the same every week with the mascots when players come off after the warm up. All the other players have their photos taken with the mascots and he runs past. Seems a tit to me. Regardless of his job, maybe he’s an introvert? I don’t know this of course, just considering that his actions may not be those of a tit.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 3, 2024 10:34:13 GMT
Amazed people are letting him off so lightly on this. Some of the posts above 😱
It's fucking disgusting behavior. It's my understanding he's one of, if not the highest paid player in the club, we've just won a huge game in a relegation scrap and you're in front of the best part of 20,000 fans who have watched your unacceptable performances week in week out. Show some respect and at least applaud the fans, if not your teammates.
Fingers crossed we can get this guy out the club in the summer. He's been largely dire for us and frankly should count himself lucky he's on the bench.
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Post by felonious on Mar 3, 2024 10:44:40 GMT
And still we go hate hunting You'd think after yesterday's performance on the pitch and in the stands there'd be a lot of happiness on here but, well, anyway whatever floats yer boat
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Post by stormin on Mar 3, 2024 10:55:18 GMT
We were better with him. He would improve our squad/ team. Currently starting for a team that’s doing better than us. Joe Allen doesn't get in a Baker/Pearson/Burger/Laurent (in any combination) midfield. Swansea are not far off as bad as us, btw. In his first season Joe Allens goal saved Stoke from relegation.
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Post by Scouse on Mar 3, 2024 11:03:08 GMT
I'll take it as pissed off at not playing. No problem with that. I have a problem with it ( IF that was the reason). The whole point of SJWs brilliant rallying call was that everyone is in this together. He was on the pitch at the end and definitely should have acknowledged the crowd. He should ask the manager and then himself why he's not starting - probably because he hasn't shown last season's form, and possibly because he's also a walking card. On today's showing he will have a challenge taking the shirt off Burger, Laurent or Baker. Indeed , unless he leaves early due a long standing injury that requires managing by the physio team , so the physio / sports scientist team have recommended after exertion he gets back in the warm or an ice bath rather than standing around and the injury tensing up .. and he and the HC is aware of this ( who did he walk off with ) then he should have stayed out with his team mates If he’s dissapointed with his own contribution this season or indeed at the clubs position and feels one win still leaves lots of work still to be done , so is no cause to celebrate ( or that celebrating all feels a bit two faced ) or feels others deserve the limelight for their performances rather than him that’s fair enough I can totally understand that ..but if not injury related just stay in the background , let others receive their plaudits .. and go about thanking people quietly
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 3, 2024 11:06:52 GMT
Does the same every week with the mascots when players come off after the warm up. All the other players have their photos taken with the mascots and he runs past. Seems a tit to me. Regardless of his job, maybe he’s an introvert? I don’t know this of course, just considering that his actions may not be those of a tit. All he has to do is stand there and force a smile.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 3, 2024 11:10:27 GMT
So disappointing.
You expected him to be the glue that held us together. Whatever the issue is you’d think a bloke with his experience could suck it up and at least pretend to buy into the attempt to pull the club together.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 3, 2024 11:13:26 GMT
I have a problem with it ( IF that was the reason). The whole point of SJWs brilliant rallying call was that everyone is in this together. He was on the pitch at the end and definitely should have acknowledged the crowd. He should ask the manager and then himself why he's not starting - probably because he hasn't shown last season's form, and possibly because he's also a walking card. On today's showing he will have a challenge taking the shirt off Burger, Laurent or Baker. Indeed , unless he leaves early due a long standing injury that requires managing by the physio team , so the physio / sports scientist team have recommended after exertion he gets back in the warm or an ice bath rather than standing around and the injury tensing up .. and he and the HC is aware of this ( who was he walking of with ) then he should have stayed out with his team mates If he’s dissapointed with his own contribution this season or indeed at the clubs position and feels one win still leaves lots of work still to be done , so is no cause to celebrate ( or that celebrating all feels a bit two faced ) or feels others deserve the limelight for their performances rather than him that’s fair enough I can totally understand that ..but if not injury related just stay in the background , let others receive their plaudits .. and go about thanking people quietly If that is the reason then why wouldn’t that be out in the public domain? Either from him or the manager? Let’s be honest all the evidence suggests he’s a mardy arse who feels marginalised in the team. Annoying thing is he’s plenty good enough to boss the midfield at this level if his attitude and fitness were right.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 3, 2024 11:18:26 GMT
Swap him with Mmaee. Misery guts can go and play with the kids whilst we get the 'time challenged' maverick back on the bench.
Thompson can do his job in midfield. He's snappier and just as bad with the yellow cards.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 3, 2024 11:19:26 GMT
I'll take it as pissed off at not playing. No problem with that. I have a problem with it ( IF that was the reason). The whole point of SJWs brilliant rallying call was that everyone is in this together. He was on the pitch at the end and definitely should have acknowledged the crowd. He should ask the manager and then himself why he's not starting - probably because he hasn't shown last season's form, and possibly because he's also a walking card. On today's showing he will have a challenge taking the shirt off Burger, Laurent or Baker. I disagree. Rallying cries are all well and good but rarely solve anything unless processes, structure and personnel are in place. We won yesterday because we set up as we did under Alex Neil with a back four with traditional full backs and the press we used in the first half of the season. As Potterlytics mentioned this week, we have more solid defensive shape when Pearson is covering in midfield, whatever his limitations as a tackler, and Burger then has more creative licence - a positive as he is a much more aggressive passer than Baker and Laurent. Maybe Pearson feels he hasn’t done enough to share the plaudits, who knows? But we will need him as a player, I would start him at Leeds for sure
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Post by Scouse on Mar 3, 2024 11:32:01 GMT
Indeed , unless he leaves early due a long standing injury that requires managing by the physio team , so the physio / sports scientist team have recommended after exertion he gets back in the warm or an ice bath rather than standing around and the injury tensing up .. and he and the HC is aware of this ( who was he walking of with ) then he should have stayed out with his team mates If he’s dissapointed with his own contribution this season or indeed at the clubs position and feels one win still leaves lots of work still to be done , so is no cause to celebrate ( or that celebrating all feels a bit two faced ) or feels others deserve the limelight for their performances rather than him that’s fair enough I can totally understand that ..but if not injury related just stay in the background , let others receive their plaudits .. and go about thanking people quietly If that is the reason then why wouldn’t that be out in the public domain? Either from him or the manager? Let’s be honest all the evidence suggests he’s a mardy arse who feels marginalised in the team. Annoying thing is he’s plenty good enough to boss the midfield at this level if his attitude and fitness were right. Out in the public domain ..what rumours you mean ( sadly we’re champions league level when it comes to them ) , as for bossing the midfield I don’t think he is tbh ..certainly not in a quick moving , passing , promotion chasing team ( presumably that was the aim when signed not were weve ended up ) My honest view , we desperately needed him or something similar last season and it worked , with the advantage of the reset , we should have thanked him for his contribution and that should have been the end of it ..he shouldnt have been on this years list … certainly not on a 4 year contract ..even with a 2-3 year plan to get in the prem , he’s not good for that level ..so why offer him 4 yrs Not putting all our woes on him BTW , far from it ..personally I think he probably very disappointed how this season has turned out for him and the club ..and realistically doesn’t see his future for next being strengthened when AN left ..that’s not necessarily being a mard arse
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Post by idle on Mar 3, 2024 12:52:20 GMT
Only for the wages sake. He's good enough to play a part here IMO. Typical fickle backstabbing fans, ready to stick the knife in at the first sign of poor form. By backstabbing fans you mean stating that he's been nowhere good enough which he clearly hasn't ? Fuck, even Burger was slated on here in August/September! Most on here slating Pearson don't seem to grasp that it hasn't been the midfield who's been our problem this season, it's been the non-scoring forwards and the once per game mistake at the back. Pearson could have been better, but that goes for the entire team. But hey, those slating him need to find someone to blame in their pathetic little existences.
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Post by idle on Mar 3, 2024 12:54:45 GMT
Swap him with Mmaee. Misery guts can go and play with the kids whilst we get the 'time challenged' maverick back on the bench. Thompson can do his job in midfield. He's snappier and just as bad with the yellow cards. Thompson (who by the ways gets the same stupid yellow every time he plays CM due to poor positioning) is shite. Ok, for the odd game or for the last 15 minutes, but nowhere near a first team place in a promotion chasing side. He'll do well if we go down.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 3, 2024 12:56:51 GMT
By backstabbing fans you mean stating that he's been nowhere good enough which he clearly hasn't ? Fuck, even Burger was slated on here in August/September! Most on here slating Pearson don't seem to grasp that it hasn't been the midfield who's been our problem this season, it's been the non-scoring forwards and the once per game mistake at the back. Pearson could have been better, but that goes for the entire team. But hey, those slating him need to find someone to blame in their pathetic little existences. By slating you mean pointing out that he simply hasn't performed but feel free to convince yourself that he has . The manager has seen that and dropped him. I'll take his sad pathetic existence and knowledge over yours, no offence Pointing the blame elsewhere doesn't make Pearson's performances better. We've been trying to sell him for a reason.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 3, 2024 13:00:48 GMT
Squad player,which I think he won't be too happy about,maybe best to just get rid,how much would we expect to get for him though?
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Mar 3, 2024 13:01:01 GMT
Joe Allen doesn't get in a Baker/Pearson/Burger/Laurent (in any combination) midfield. Swansea are not far off as bad as us, btw. Not at almost 34. None of the players you mentioned gets in a top half Premier League team at any point in their career. 4 points and 7 places better right now. Hopefully we’ll make that up by May. Joe Allen is the epitome of our demise, since around 2016. It's fitting, that we turned to shite not long after he arrived. Anyway, I've wasted far too much internet already, talking about the useless wazzock 🫣
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Post by frasier37 on Mar 3, 2024 13:17:56 GMT
And still we go hate hunting You'd think after yesterday's performance on the pitch and in the stands there'd be a lot of happiness on here but, well, anyway whatever floats yer boat I remember similar threads about Laurent, Baker ...etc Good job for us they ignore the shit they hear on here
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 3, 2024 13:36:43 GMT
Not at almost 34. None of the players you mentioned gets in a top half Premier League team at any point in their career. 4 points and 7 places better right now. Hopefully we’ll make that up by May. Joe Allen is the epitome of our demise, since around 2016. It's fitting, that we turned to shite not long after he arrived. Anyway, I've wasted far too much internet already, talking about the useless wazzock 🫣 So “useless” we replaced him easily, and saw an improvement once he’d gone. Doesn’t sound quite right. If we “turned shite not long after he arrived”, what happened when he left?
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Mar 3, 2024 13:41:19 GMT
Joe Allen is the epitome of our demise, since around 2016. It's fitting, that we turned to shite not long after he arrived. Anyway, I've wasted far too much internet already, talking about the useless wazzock 🫣 So “useless” we replaced him easily, and saw an improvement once he’d gone. Doesn’t sound quite right. If we “turned shite not long after he arrived”, what happened when he left? The thread's about Pearson, and Joe Allen's picture's still on my dartboard, so let's agree to disagree 😉
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