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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 1, 2024 19:18:39 GMT
I’ve an uneasy feeling about all this crowd rallying stuff
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Post by yellowsnowman on Mar 1, 2024 19:18:48 GMT
Top man!
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 2, 2024 0:27:57 GMT
Can everyone stop being such miserable bastards! This is designed to get us to unite and stick together in this very dicey situation and all I am seeing on here is people saying it’s a bad thing. Honestly - this would get me running through brick walls. I love SJW, and I’d (no joke) stick him in the squad. Goooaaaarn Stoke Designed being the key word though. Everybody on here wants Stoke to win and desperately, but the fact is we will probably start the next game with a square peg at left back, no decent strikers or a midfielder who has a habit of scoring or creating - and it is season after season of failed windows and rank mediocre British no-hoper managers and god knows what kind of setup going on behind the scenes - this tinpot half-assed idea epitomising how the club is ran - shite token gesture for me. We need a new manager in now, who has a bit of a clue or we are down So if I understand you right, we have a squad not fit for the purpose, and the solution to that is to get rid of the manager and bring in someone else who can suddenly find a genuine left back hidden in the closet along with a 30 goal a season striker we'd forgotten we'd got?
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 2, 2024 9:28:50 GMT
Designed being the key word though. Everybody on here wants Stoke to win and desperately, but the fact is we will probably start the next game with a square peg at left back, no decent strikers or a midfielder who has a habit of scoring or creating - and it is season after season of failed windows and rank mediocre British no-hoper managers and god knows what kind of setup going on behind the scenes - this tinpot half-assed idea epitomising how the club is ran - shite token gesture for me. We need a new manager in now, who has a bit of a clue or we are down So if I understand you right, we have a squad not fit for the purpose, and the solution to that is to get rid of the manager and bring in someone else who can suddenly find a genuine left back hidden in the closet along with a 30 goal a season striker we'd forgotten we'd got? No, we bring someone else in who has got a bit more of a clue and experience than this manager - the last manager that was sacked for under performing did not lose 7 out of 8 games and he was getting a bit more of a tune out of this shower of shite. Our chairman for some reason is sticking with SS even though he has zero faith in him and we now have Walters coming in to give the team a pep talk because SS is incapable presumably - it is laughable and has Coates written all over it.
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Post by Gods on Mar 2, 2024 9:36:41 GMT
I’ve an uneasy feeling about all this crowd rallying stuff Feels a bit weird doesn't it? And why '10 minutes' not 90 or 102 or however long a game lasts for these days. Either way you can be sure the Middlesbrough lads have wind of this ruse.
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 2, 2024 9:40:42 GMT
Designed being the key word though. Everybody on here wants Stoke to win and desperately, but the fact is we will probably start the next game with a square peg at left back, no decent strikers or a midfielder who has a habit of scoring or creating - and it is season after season of failed windows and rank mediocre British no-hoper managers and god knows what kind of setup going on behind the scenes - this tinpot half-assed idea epitomising how the club is ran - shite token gesture for me. We need a new manager in now, who has a bit of a clue or we are down How is a new manager going to get us a new LB, striker and goalscoring midfielder? Managers don't magically make players into world beaters. This is where we are now. Right now. Getting in a new dinosaur (and who in their fucking right mind would come to us for anything else than silly money now?) isn't going to help us. Not now, and certainly not if we go down. Remember when we went down from the PL? A dour british defensive manager who was supposed to save us, and then another dour defensive british manager who were allowed to spunk £60M pounds on players that weren't good enough. For me, SS (and Walters or his replacement) is JCs last chance. He'll have to step down if we go down and fail to get straight up again. But sacking Schumacher now is lunacy. At least he has pissed L1 before. If we do, we deserve not only to go down, we also resign ourselves to a decade or more in League 1 (or worse). Be fucking careful what you wish for. See your point of view, but we have to bring somebody else in now who has got a bit more of a clue - tier 3 is not an option, there are better managers out there who can get results with poor teams, even if it means Warnock for the last few games. Our last manager who was sacked for underperforming did not lose 7 from 8, we can do better even with this bunch Coates has no credit left in the bank - he has to go no matter what at the end of the season or things won't change, his last action must be to take action quickly in my opinion and just for once make the right call at the right time. Opinions are split, but if we lose today SS will be under pressure and I think more fans than not will be calling for a change
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Post by idle on Mar 2, 2024 10:23:07 GMT
See your point of view, but we have to bring somebody else in now who has got a bit more of a clue - tier 3 is not an option, there are better managers out there who can get results with poor teams, even if it means Warnock for the last few games. Our last manager who was sacked for underperforming did not lose 7 from 8, we can do better even with this bunch. 7 in 8 is cherry picking though. That also includes Brigthon, a PL team. It's abysmal form, but it's also 2 in 3, or 6 in 12 if you count all his games. And there is absolutely no chance Warnock will keep us up. I think even SS has a better chance than that dino who can't even get Aberdeen firing. Big Sam won't come (and wouldn't keep us up). That leaves McCarthy, who I'll also wager is even worse than those two. Coates has no credit left in the bank - he has to go no matter what at the end of the season or things won't change, his last action must be to take action quickly in my opinion and just for once make the right call at the right time. Opinions are split, but if we lose today SS will be under pressure and I think more fans than not will be calling for a change I don't see JC going unless we go down, and even then I'm sceptical he'll actually sell up and leave. As you say, opinions are split. I'm against it until the supporters get their fucking shit together and start a Trust with the view of taking ownership themselves, Luton style. Also, I think that people are only calling for Schumachers head because that's the only thing we can change personell wise. If we could sign players (like TP did in 2002-03), we'd be screaming for new players, not a new manager.
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Post by questionable on Mar 2, 2024 10:23:44 GMT
Last chance saloon today for SS in my opinion and yet again embarrassing for the Coates owner's coming up with SJW, I follow SJW on Twitter and very rarely does he mention Stoke, Everton yes which shows where his loyalty is.
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Post by banksy1art on Mar 2, 2024 10:30:24 GMT
Last chance saloon today for SS in my opinion and yet again embarrassing for the Coates owner's coming up with SJW, I follow SJW on Twitter and very rarely does he mention Stoke, Everton yes which shows where his loyalty is. you sure mate? This was before he was even appointed. Sorry but people like you are the problem at the minute! He’s just asking for 10 mins of noise. Jesus
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Post by questionable on Mar 2, 2024 10:38:14 GMT
Last chance saloon today for SS in my opinion and yet again embarrassing for the Coates owner's coming up with SJW, I follow SJW on Twitter and very rarely does he mention Stoke, Everton yes which shows where his loyalty is. you sure mate? This was before he was even appointed. Sorry but people like you are the problem at the minute! He’s just asking for 10 mins of noise. Jesus That tweet was 7:09 PM · Feb 11, 2024. I’ve followed him for years and even replied to his tweets asking about /commenting on Stoke, as have many others have and rarely does he reply, if at all. Everton, yes and issues in the PL. It’s the last I’ll say on the matter but his appointment stinks of the owners thinking how do we deflect the blame from yet again, I know let’s employ a former fans favourite, who next ????
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Post by jwhpotter on Mar 2, 2024 11:55:02 GMT
Cmon people let’s get the ground rocking first 10 minutes!
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Post by northernstokie on Mar 2, 2024 12:49:52 GMT
I’ve an uneasy feeling about all this crowd rallying stuff Feels a bit weird doesn't it? And why '10 minutes' not 90 or 102 or however long a game lasts for these days. Either way you can be sure the Middlesbrough lads have wind of this ruse. I think the point is for the players to experience the atmosphere then it's up to them to keep it loud
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Post by newyorkpotter2 on Mar 2, 2024 12:53:54 GMT
This is proper passion and nobody can deny it. Super Johnnie Walters sticking up for the people of Stoke. And the fans. That's who he cares about. He's asking for our help. Interesting that he just asks for ten minutes. To start the engine. And then it's up to the players. It's real leadership and anybody who questions it is just pathetic. There's a disease in cynicism. Fuck off if you can't shout out. Come on the potters today. And every day. SJW, thank you.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 2, 2024 13:23:39 GMT
It is certainly a call to arms and it is clear that SJW is passionate about this club.
However, I think that today will determine our fate somewhat. If we lose, I can use struggling to get anything from the next three games. If we win, it might just be the injection of confidence and hope that we need to pick ourselves off the floor.
It will be interesting to see how the fans respond to his message.
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 2, 2024 19:11:04 GMT
See your point of view, but we have to bring somebody else in now who has got a bit more of a clue - tier 3 is not an option, there are better managers out there who can get results with poor teams, even if it means Warnock for the last few games. Our last manager who was sacked for underperforming did not lose 7 from 8, we can do better even with this bunch. 7 in 8 is cherry picking though. That also includes Brigthon, a PL team. It's abysmal form, but it's also 2 in 3, or 6 in 12 if you count all his games. And there is absolutely no chance Warnock will keep us up. I think even SS has a better chance than that dino who can't even get Aberdeen firing. Big Sam won't come (and wouldn't keep us up). That leaves McCarthy, who I'll also wager is even worse than those two. Coates has no credit left in the bank - he has to go no matter what at the end of the season or things won't change, his last action must be to take action quickly in my opinion and just for once make the right call at the right time. Opinions are split, but if we lose today SS will be under pressure and I think more fans than not will be calling for a change I don't see JC going unless we go down, and even then I'm sceptical he'll actually sell up and leave. As you say, opinions are split. I'm against it until the supporters get their fucking shit together and start a Trust with the view of taking ownership themselves, Luton style. Also, I think that people are only calling for Schumachers head because that's the only thing we can change personell wise. If we could sign players (like TP did in 2002-03), we'd be screaming for new players, not a new manager. Personally at the point where I just want see the Coates family go no matter what. Until they arrived we had never played tier 3(proper) footy in our history, we are now facing it for the third time all under their guidance. You are correct though if we get relegated he will still be here and nothing will change no matter what division we are in, we will still start next season with 2 or 3 central defenders in the squad, 0 or 1 left/right back as we seemingly don't have anybody at the club who can count under their leadership and god knows who as the manager and with the usual weird and wonderful things going on in the background. If they were to take over at Villa in their current state, 4 or 5 British managerial punts later they would be in our position - do we have anything to lose should they leave? Warnock would have been a desperation appointment possibly worth a shot as for the others mentioned I would have been horrified if Sam or McCarthy would have been brought in. We could have a look, for a manager, at the other 190+ countries that exist outside of the UK - I mean in the 21st century it ought to be an option - not for our dinosaurs though. Problem is when the only pool you are choosing from is small and lacks quality then when you start getting down to your 3rd or 4th choice you end up taking massive risks on managers, we end up having to google, with zero experience at this level - why the fans & press don't call them out more for their xenophobia is beyond me. In SS we trust tonight then - the players are running around for him that is for sure. Do we think he picked that team? Like to see him stick with the back 4 and having four players who are comfortable in defence - injuries allowing and if we have 4 defenders to choose from. If all the players in front of that back 4 can stay fit and hit form then we have a bit of talent in there at this level and a bit of hope, need to get Baker and Laurent playing well in more games than not - that has never been easy though.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 2, 2024 19:19:26 GMT
Last chance saloon today for SS in my opinion and yet again embarrassing for the Coates owner's coming up with SJW, I follow SJW on Twitter and very rarely does he mention Stoke, Everton yes which shows where his loyalty is. Weird, my impression has always been that he never bloody stops sticking his oar in
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 2, 2024 22:14:39 GMT
It is certainly a call to arms and it is clear that SJW is passionate about this club. However, I think that today will determine our fate somewhat. If we lose, I can use struggling to get anything from the next three games. If we win, it might just be the injection of confidence and hope that we need to pick ourselves off the floor. It will be interesting to see how the fans respond to his message. Well now we know ! Excellent performance from the fans and the team for the full 90 minutes. And a great idea to play his message on screen before the kick-off. Shades of Pottermouth all those years ago.
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Post by RF10 on Mar 2, 2024 22:19:54 GMT
It clearly worked and wouldn't be surprised if Uncle Tony gave him to advice or he learnt from him on how to bring fans together.
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Post by thornestein on Mar 2, 2024 22:21:24 GMT
It clearly worked and wouldn't be surprised if Uncle Tony gave him to advice or he learnt from him on how to bring fans together. [b it’s one game , come back after the next 12
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Post by RF10 on Mar 2, 2024 22:43:55 GMT
It clearly worked and wouldn't be surprised if Uncle Tony gave him to advice or he learnt from him on how to bring fans together. [b it’s one game , come back after the next 12 It worked today didn't it?
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Post by noustie on Mar 2, 2024 22:48:04 GMT
If Walters can help turn this lot into a collective who’re willing put a shift in we might actually finally turn a corner.
Be still my beating heart but seeing the entire team celebrate that second goal has moved me emotionally and sexually 😂
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Post by lstokie on Mar 2, 2024 22:50:02 GMT
I think it was a masterclass now that we've got the result. It was a bold move but the evidence is in the fact that when we got behind them today we've played the best arguably that we have all season (at least at home), whether Boro were shite or not is neither here nor there.
He knows the club and fans, knows the difference it makes & he clearly knew how it would effect the players. Brilliant day all round
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Post by stokest5 on Mar 2, 2024 22:51:45 GMT
To be honest when I first heard about it all I thought it was a bit cringe but it showed it was needed and it worked. Any other game the fans could have turned and got into the backs of the players early on after poor defending nearly gifted them 2 early goals.
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 2, 2024 22:54:59 GMT
It clearly worked, even if seen as cringeworthy or whatever the latest spin is.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 2, 2024 22:57:56 GMT
It clearly worked, even if seen as cringeworthy or whatever the latest spin is. Absolutely Clodders The tin pot or whatever brigade not much to say tonight
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 2, 2024 23:01:20 GMT
It clearly worked, even if seen as cringeworthy or whatever the latest spin is. Absolutely Clodders The tin pot or whatever brigade not much to say tonight Oh they're being vocal on some other threads, still calling for Schu's head etc. Think I'll take a break from here and enjoy the weekend. Oh and thanks AGAIN for the "ginger on pizza" suggestion. Won't eat it without that now.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 2, 2024 23:03:48 GMT
Absolutely Clodders The tin pot or whatever brigade not much to say tonight Oh they're being vocal on some other threads, still calling for Schu's head etc. Think I'll take a break from here and enjoy the weekend. Oh and thanks AGAIN for the "ginger on pizza" suggestion. Won't eat it without that now. May I suggest Mini Rolls dipped in squirty cream as a dessert 👍
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Post by AlliG on Mar 3, 2024 12:07:28 GMT
7 in 8 is cherry picking though. That also includes Brigthon, a PL team. It's abysmal form, but it's also 2 in 3, or 6 in 12 if you count all his games. And there is absolutely no chance Warnock will keep us up. I think even SS has a better chance than that dino who can't even get Aberdeen firing. Big Sam won't come (and wouldn't keep us up). That leaves McCarthy, who I'll also wager is even worse than those two. I don't see JC going unless we go down, and even then I'm sceptical he'll actually sell up and leave. As you say, opinions are split. I'm against it until the supporters get their fucking shit together and start a Trust with the view of taking ownership themselves, Luton style. Also, I think that people are only calling for Schumachers head because that's the only thing we can change personell wise. If we could sign players (like TP did in 2002-03), we'd be screaming for new players, not a new manager. Personally at the point where I just want see the Coates family go no matter what. Until they arrived we had never played tier 3(proper) footy in our history, we are now facing it for the third time all under their guidance. You are correct though if we get relegated he will still be here and nothing will change no matter what division we are in, we will still start next season with 2 or 3 central defenders in the squad, 0 or 1 left/right back as we seemingly don't have anybody at the club who can count under their leadership and god knows who as the manager and with the usual weird and wonderful things going on in the background. If they were to take over at Villa in their current state, 4 or 5 British managerial punts later they would be in our position - do we have anything to lose should they leave? Warnock would have been a desperation appointment possibly worth a shot as for the others mentioned I would have been horrified if Sam or McCarthy would have been brought in. We could have a look, for a manager, at the other 190+ countries that exist outside of the UK - I mean in the 21st century it ought to be an option - not for our dinosaurs though. Problem is when the only pool you are choosing from is small and lacks quality then when you start getting down to your 3rd or 4th choice you end up taking massive risks on managers, we end up having to google, with zero experience at this level - why the fans & press don't call them out more for their xenophobia is beyond me. In SS we trust tonight then - the players are running around for him that is for sure. Do we think he picked that team? Like to see him stick with the back 4 and having four players who are comfortable in defence - injuries allowing and if we have 4 defenders to choose from. If all the players in front of that back 4 can stay fit and hit form then we have a bit of talent in there at this level and a bit of hope, need to get Baker and Laurent playing well in more games than not - that has never been easy though. If you are going to have a good winge, at least get your facts right. We played in "tier 3 (proper)" back in 1926/27 and while Peter Coates is knocking on a bit, I don't think even he is that old!
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Post by lordb on Mar 3, 2024 12:11:00 GMT
Personally at the point where I just want see the Coates family go no matter what. Until they arrived we had never played tier 3(proper) footy in our history, we are now facing it for the third time all under their guidance. You are correct though if we get relegated he will still be here and nothing will change no matter what division we are in, we will still start next season with 2 or 3 central defenders in the squad, 0 or 1 left/right back as we seemingly don't have anybody at the club who can count under their leadership and god knows who as the manager and with the usual weird and wonderful things going on in the background. If they were to take over at Villa in their current state, 4 or 5 British managerial punts later they would be in our position - do we have anything to lose should they leave? Warnock would have been a desperation appointment possibly worth a shot as for the others mentioned I would have been horrified if Sam or McCarthy would have been brought in. We could have a look, for a manager, at the other 190+ countries that exist outside of the UK - I mean in the 21st century it ought to be an option - not for our dinosaurs though. Problem is when the only pool you are choosing from is small and lacks quality then when you start getting down to your 3rd or 4th choice you end up taking massive risks on managers, we end up having to google, with zero experience at this level - why the fans & press don't call them out more for their xenophobia is beyond me. In SS we trust tonight then - the players are running around for him that is for sure. Do we think he picked that team? Like to see him stick with the back 4 and having four players who are comfortable in defence - injuries allowing and if we have 4 defenders to choose from. If all the players in front of that back 4 can stay fit and hit form then we have a bit of talent in there at this level and a bit of hope, need to get Baker and Laurent playing well in more games than not - that has never been easy though. If you are going to have a good winge, at least get your facts right. We played in "tier 3 (proper)" back in 1926/27 and while Peter Coates is knocking on a bit, I don't think even he is that old! We we're even non league before WW1
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 3, 2024 15:58:46 GMT
It is certainly a call to arms and it is clear that SJW is passionate about this club. However, I think that today will determine our fate somewhat. If we lose, I can use struggling to get anything from the next three games. If we win, it might just be the injection of confidence and hope that we need to pick ourselves off the floor. It will be interesting to see how the fans respond to his message. Well now we know ! Excellent performance from the fans and the team for the full 90 minutes. And a great idea to play his message on screen before the kick-off. Shades of Pottermouth all those years ago. Agreed!
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