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Post by andystokey on Feb 29, 2024 13:39:32 GMT
What I find interesting is the duality of posters who want players "bomb squaded" for not listening or ignoring stuff. Yet they diss this sort of stuff.
I wonder what sort of dressing room atmosphere they would create if they were players?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 29, 2024 14:20:26 GMT
Its because we've gone from November....shit we could end up lower mid table playing for nothing again. To Nearly March......and oh fuck we're in a proper relegation battle. We're chest deep in shit and I guess the best thing to do is for all of us try and play some little part in steering us out of it please everybody 🙏 No point booing now or ranting and raving, its just counter productive. Save it for the final nail. Which hopefully doesn't transpire.. If I said we could still "play for" a play off zone position with 12 games to go, I wouldn't be saying anything that was factually wrong (although it would take the mother and the father of a collapse of half the division's teams for it to happen), but there'd be a whole bunch of so-called Stoke supporters calling me deluded and blah blah blah. The point I'm making, however, is that "playing for" a play off zone in late February is no more unrealistic now than it was in November or even in August, because we just have never had a team strong enough to 'do it' this season. We've never had a proper team - period, just a few good players, some average defenders, and a bunch of no good-nothing hands, or should that be feet. I think the team is playing better football under Schuhmacher (apart from the LC game) than we were at any point under Neil. We're just not confident enough to see out games without individual errors striking at the heart of every single player. And without confidence no team can 'do it'. Fact is we've ended up with a new manager trying to get a tune out of players that were bought for the old manager who got sacked because he couldn't get the players he purchased playing decent football. We're very close to the cliff edge and the only thing we as fans can realistically contribute now is our unwavering support. SJW recognises the situation. He knows from past experience here that if we lift them in the final minutes on Saturday when we are 0-0 or even 0-1 down by raising the roof then that 1 or 3 points could be what saves us. It would breed confidence, maybe get the dressing room into a positive siege mentality. So as far as I'm concerned we've just got to stay behind them and roar them on. Save the negative shit for when we're mathematically down should that terrible scenario occur. I still believe we can do it. Just. Some of if not all these players are going to have to smash down brick walls this last 12 games. They'll struggle to do that if we're booing and mocking them.
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Post by onepara on Feb 29, 2024 14:46:13 GMT
Can't figure out if this Walters appointment is a masterstroke or the last act of a desperate ownership. I'll let you know at 3:10pm on Saturday. Nothing like hedging your bets.
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Post by hoppo96 on Feb 29, 2024 14:49:16 GMT
this is all well and good until about 3.08pm on a saturday afternoon when we concede.
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Post by onepara on Feb 29, 2024 14:56:21 GMT
Most of you are saying that it won't work, because:- (various reasons). Then you finish up with, "But I hope it does". So get rid of the negative-speak, & get behind the lads, on Saturday.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 29, 2024 14:57:13 GMT
this is all well and good until about 3.08pm on a saturday afternoon when we concede. That's the spirit chief 😆
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Post by stokesupporter on Feb 29, 2024 15:11:13 GMT
It shows how much of a Stoke problem I have, I watch a very short video of SJW and I'm completely back onboard. What a horrible addiction it is! Just When I Thought I Was Out, They Pull Me Back In!
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Post by questionable on Feb 29, 2024 15:14:29 GMT
I’m not being funny but don’t we employ SS for this, f’in shambles and another tin pot idea trying to deflect from years of decay from the very top.
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Post by jokker on Feb 29, 2024 15:59:08 GMT
If I said we could still "play for" a play off zone position with 12 games to go, I wouldn't be saying anything that was factually wrong (although it would take the mother and the father of a collapse of half the division's teams for it to happen), but there'd be a whole bunch of so-called Stoke supporters calling me deluded and blah blah blah. The point I'm making, however, is that "playing for" a play off zone in late February is no more unrealistic now than it was in November or even in August, because we just have never had a team strong enough to 'do it' this season. We've never had a proper team - period, just a few good players, some average defenders, and a bunch of no good-nothing hands, or should that be feet. I think the team is playing better football under Schuhmacher (apart from the LC game) than we were at any point under Neil. We're just not confident enough to see out games without individual errors striking at the heart of every single player. And without confidence no team can 'do it'. Fact is we've ended up with a new manager trying to get a tune out of players that were bought for the old manager who got sacked because he couldn't get the players he purchased playing decent football. We're very close to the cliff edge and the only thing we as fans can realistically contribute now is our unwavering support. SJW recognises the situation. He knows from past experience here that if we lift them in the final minutes on Saturday when we are 0-0 or even 0-1 down by raising the roof then that 1 or 3 points could be what saves us. It would breed confidence, maybe get the dressing room into a positive siege mentality. So as far as I'm concerned we've just got to stay behind them and roar them on. Save the negative shit for when we're mathematically down should that terrible scenario occur. I still believe we can do it. Just. Some of if not all these players are going to have to smash down brick walls this last 12 games. They'll struggle to do that if we're booing and mocking them. I agree with that. However, I think you'd find that we would need to be 1-0 up if we were to collect three pts :-) If the season ended on Saturday, and if qpr were to lose, all it would take is 1 point for us to be playing Championship football next season, for all the good it will do us.
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Post by hoppo96 on Feb 29, 2024 17:19:52 GMT
this is all well and good until about 3.08pm on a saturday afternoon when we concede. That's the spirit chief 😆 just that we've been here before.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2024 17:47:10 GMT
“Call to Arms” are we sure Walters wasn’t suggesting we shoot them dead like a lame horse.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 29, 2024 19:38:11 GMT
I think he's pissing in the wind. Pessimism has understandably set in and we're going with a whimper on and off the pitch. Miserable git
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Post by sportsman on Feb 29, 2024 19:39:03 GMT
this is all well and good until about 3.08pm on a saturday afternoon when we concede. Did you listen to it? If you did listen again
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Post by Block 26 on Feb 29, 2024 21:42:19 GMT
I like his enthusiasm but he also has to understand that the fans are drained.
Would love the atmosphere to come back to what it was. That’s down to the players imo not the fans, give us something to get behind.
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Post by jokker on Feb 29, 2024 22:03:09 GMT
I like his enthusiasm but he also has to understand that the fans are drained. Would love the atmosphere to come back to what it was. That’s down to the players imo not the fans, give us something to get behind. Ask not what your players can do for you, ask what you can do for your players...
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Post by stokieinlondon on Feb 29, 2024 23:02:56 GMT
Can everyone stop being such miserable bastards! This is designed to get us to unite and stick together in this very dicey situation and all I am seeing on here is people saying it’s a bad thing.
Honestly - this would get me running through brick walls. I love SJW, and I’d (no joke) stick him in the squad.
Goooaaaarn Stoke
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 1, 2024 0:01:10 GMT
Can everyone stop being such miserable bastards! This is designed to get us to unite and stick together in this very dicey situation and all I am seeing on here is people saying it’s a bad thing. Honestly - this would get me running through brick walls. I love SJW, and I’d (no joke) stick him in the squad. Goooaaaarn Stoke Designed being the key word though. Everybody on here wants Stoke to win and desperately, but the fact is we will probably start the next game with a square peg at left back, no decent strikers or a midfielder who has a habit of scoring or creating - and it is season after season of failed windows and rank mediocre British no-hoper managers and god knows what kind of setup going on behind the scenes - this tinpot half-assed idea epitomising how the club is ran - shite token gesture for me. We need a new manager in now, who has a bit of a clue or we are down
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Post by malteser68 on Mar 1, 2024 5:14:52 GMT
Despite all the talk the same problems will still be there. Boro know what a dire situation we are in and will certainly seek to capitalize on it. To be honest I can’t see where the goals can come from in open play. We must score from dead ball situations. We have to win at all costs. And we must not concede first. We have to be rock solid and play for dead balls and seek to capitalize from them. It’s all about staying up. Then we rebuild in summer under a new continental manager
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Post by idle on Mar 1, 2024 7:04:25 GMT
Can everyone stop being such miserable bastards! This is designed to get us to unite and stick together in this very dicey situation and all I am seeing on here is people saying it’s a bad thing. Honestly - this would get me running through brick walls. I love SJW, and I’d (no joke) stick him in the squad. Goooaaaarn Stoke Designed being the key word though. Everybody on here wants Stoke to win and desperately, but the fact is we will probably start the next game with a square peg at left back, no decent strikers or a midfielder who has a habit of scoring or creating - and it is season after season of failed windows and rank mediocre British no-hoper managers and god knows what kind of setup going on behind the scenes - this tinpot half-assed idea epitomising how the club is ran - shite token gesture for me. We need a new manager in now, who has a bit of a clue or we are down How is a new manager going to get us a new LB, striker and goalscoring midfielder? Managers don't magically make players into world beaters. This is where we are now. Right now. Getting in a new dinosaur (and who in their fucking right mind would come to us for anything else than silly money now?) isn't going to help us. Not now, and certainly not if we go down. Remember when we went down from the PL? A dour british defensive manager who was supposed to save us, and then another dour defensive british manager who were allowed to spunk £60M pounds on players that weren't good enough. For me, SS (and Walters or his replacement) is JCs last chance. He'll have to step down if we go down and fail to get straight up again. But sacking Schumacher now is lunacy. At least he has pissed L1 before. If we do, we deserve not only to go down, we also resign ourselves to a decade or more in League 1 (or worse). Be fucking careful what you wish for.
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Post by Ron on Mar 1, 2024 7:17:52 GMT
Cringeworthy desperation. I loved SJW as a player… but this… desperate.
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 1, 2024 8:09:36 GMT
10 minutes isn't a lot to ask for. He wants some of our young players to get a taste of what it can be like when the fans are in good voice and give them something to strive for rather than go into their shells when it's getting a bit nervy. The players need to learn to use the crowd and not hide from them when things aren't going so well. If Walters can pass some of his experience to the players it will only serve them well in the future.
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Post by Stoke70 on Mar 1, 2024 11:12:13 GMT
Like someone else said on another thread, fans deserves a medal after 7 years of endless slide to mediocrity. SJW call to arms seems more a desesperate call. Give us a team of warriors, give us a fighting spirit on the pitch, give us something like Huth, Whelan, Shawcross and we will lift the roof but give us the same shit as usually since we are in championship and your call to arms will be a flop : give us a team who deserve our support, nothing else.
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 1, 2024 11:15:22 GMT
Like someone else said on another thread, fans deserves a medal after 7 years of endless slide to mediocrity. SJW call to arms seems more a desesperate call. Give us a team of warriors, give us a fighting spirit on the pitch, give us something like Huth, Whelan, Shawcross and we will lift the roof but give us the same shit as usually since we are in championship and your call to arms will be a flop : give us a team who deserve our support, nothing else. Exactly mate, they want us to show up but we have been, for 7 years, routinely selling out away games, still getting gates high above what our performance deserve. We will make noise on Saturday and then Hoever will play their centre forward in on goal with a lazy half arsed pass to no cunt inside our own half. It's futile.
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Post by Stoke70 on Mar 1, 2024 11:20:04 GMT
Like someone else said on another thread, fans deserves a medal after 7 years of endless slide to mediocrity. SJW call to arms seems more a desesperate call. Give us a team of warriors, give us a fighting spirit on the pitch, give us something like Huth, Whelan, Shawcross and we will lift the roof but give us the same shit as usually since we are in championship and your call to arms will be a flop : give us a team who deserve our support, nothing else. Exactly mate, they want us to show up but we have been, for 7 years, routinely selling out away games, still getting gates high above what our performance deserve. We will make noise on Saturday and then Hoever will play their centre forward in on goal with a lazy half arsed pass to no cunt inside our own half. It's futile. Absolutely, I’m in admiration when I see our away support to this team. And the board, unable to give us something positive since 7 years is asking more of the fans. No, it’s Time for this club to give us one thing : hope.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 1, 2024 12:00:22 GMT
*Ring, ring. Ring, ring..."
Arms: "Hello"
SJW: "Hello, is that arms?"
Arms: "Yes"
Bit of a comedy sketch for you there. Hope you enjoyed it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 1, 2024 12:03:15 GMT
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 1, 2024 12:06:36 GMT
I’d get Huth in there Saturday to point out what a bunch of lazy bastards they actually are ! Surely one of our recent, cover every blade of grass, human dynamo, signings that have lifted the club. Joe Allen or T Mince?
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Post by mcw on Mar 1, 2024 12:28:40 GMT
I like his enthusiasm but he also has to understand that the fans are drained. Would love the atmosphere to come back to what it was. That’s down to the players imo not the fans, give us something to get behind. Ask not what your players can do for you, ask what you can do for your players... Ha ha, there is a line in printable posters here. Thinking one of Jonny Walter’s with a general’s cap on pointing and with a quote “your club needs you”.
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Post by stroller on Mar 1, 2024 19:05:36 GMT
SJW just been on the news asking for the crowd tomorrow to roar the lads on with vigorous support. I'll give it a go. If no body else joins in I'll be the nutter in block 29 going ballistic.
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Post by march4 on Mar 1, 2024 19:11:41 GMT
SJW just been on the news asking for the crowd tomorrow to roar the lads on with vigorous support. I'll give it a go. If no body else joins in I'll be the nutter in block 29 going ballistic. Are you sitting next to the bloke with the drum?
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