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Post by clivey05 on Feb 21, 2024 11:40:47 GMT
19 Games. Can’t really play Rowett ball then expect another manager to come in an play a passing style with the same players.
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Post by femark on Feb 21, 2024 11:51:51 GMT
Neil Harris making another comeback.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 21, 2024 11:52:25 GMT
Don’t think he’s officially gone yet has he? Although it looks nailed on.
Joe Edwards was appointed in November. Won 4 out of 19. Similarities can be drawn with Stoke and SS
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 21, 2024 12:01:25 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 21, 2024 12:04:08 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 12:05:26 GMT
I hope they get relegated, Rowett would have kept them safe and was clearly overachieving there. They should have gone for the ex Sunderland manager, he would have done a good job there.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 21, 2024 12:20:26 GMT
Not surprised - crap appointment.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 21, 2024 12:21:28 GMT
I've a nagging feeling we are going to go the same way next week. Really don't want us to but I think we'll lose on Saturday and it'll happen
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 12:24:33 GMT
I've a nagging feeling we are going to go the same way next week. Really don't want us to but I think we'll lose on Saturday and it'll happen Schumacher needs proper support from the club and the right people higher up who are on the same page, he's not the problem. Jon is part of the problem but he can save himself if he gets the right person to support the manager if he bins Ricky.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Feb 21, 2024 12:29:30 GMT
I've a nagging feeling we are going to go the same way next week. Really don't want us to but I think we'll lose on Saturday and it'll happen Schumacher needs proper support from the club and the right people higher up who are on the same page, he's not the problem. Jon is part of the problem but he can save himself if he gets the right person to support the manager if he bins Ricky. That requires John to have a backbone...becoming clear that he doesn't
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 12:35:44 GMT
Schumacher needs proper support from the club and the right people higher up who are on the same page, he's not the problem. Jon is part of the problem but he can save himself if he gets the right person to support the manager if he bins Ricky. That requires John to have a backbone...becoming clear that he doesn't He's perfectly capable of making the change but if it's just another suit then our problems will persist. I will just keep banging the drum because it's what I believe but we need a football man above the whole department because all this data driven crap has no organization behind it. We are just signing individuals with no understanding how they will work within a team.
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 21, 2024 12:45:39 GMT
Harris will keep them up no problem. So it's now down to us, QPR or Huddersfield?
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Post by femark on Feb 21, 2024 12:49:13 GMT
I've a nagging feeling we are going to go the same way next week. Really don't want us to but I think we'll lose on Saturday and it'll happen And hire a previous manager? Most of them are still out of work!
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Feb 21, 2024 12:53:02 GMT
That requires John to have a backbone...becoming clear that he doesn't He's perfectly capable of making the change but if it's just another suit then our problems will persist. I will just keep banging the drum because it's what I believe but we need a football man above the whole department because all this data driven crap has no organization behind it. We are just signing individuals with no understanding how they will work within a team. Interested to know what makes you think he's capable of making the change to get rid of Martin? I've seen nothing to suggest he even sees a problem let alone knows how to fix it
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Feb 21, 2024 12:53:31 GMT
I've a nagging feeling we are going to go the same way next week. Really don't want us to but I think we'll lose on Saturday and it'll happen Schumacher needs proper support from the club and the right people higher up who are on the same page, he's not the problem. Jon is part of the problem but he can save himself if he gets the right person to support the manager if he bins Ricky. I believe Schumacher with the right support and given the authority to manage, and not just coach, his playing staff can be brilliant for us.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 21, 2024 13:24:07 GMT
I've a nagging feeling we are going to go the same way next week. Really don't want us to but I think we'll lose on Saturday and it'll happen And hire a previous manager? Most of them are still out of work! No I mean just sack the manager. I can see us making the wrong decision and panicking
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 13:25:58 GMT
He's perfectly capable of making the change but if it's just another suit then our problems will persist. I will just keep banging the drum because it's what I believe but we need a football man above the whole department because all this data driven crap has no organization behind it. We are just signing individuals with no understanding how they will work within a team. Interested to know what makes you think he's capable of making the change to get rid of Martin? I've seen nothing to suggest he even sees a problem let alone knows how to fix it When the fans turn and they have turned he tends to act. I think Martin will be gone very soon.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Feb 21, 2024 13:28:01 GMT
Interested to know what makes you think he's capable of making the change to get rid of Martin? I've seen nothing to suggest he even sees a problem let alone knows how to fix it When the fans turn and they have turned he tends to act. I think Martin will be gone very soon. Hope you're right but something tells me John will continue to see the manager as the problem and not Martin
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 13:29:26 GMT
Schumacher needs proper support from the club and the right people higher up who are on the same page, he's not the problem. Jon is part of the problem but he can save himself if he gets the right person to support the manager if he bins Ricky. I believe Schumacher with the right support and given the authority to manage, and not just coach, his playing staff can be brilliant for us. There's nothing wrong with Schumacher as he is, he is probably finding himself getting involved in things he shouldn't have to because we are clueless upstairs. He wants to coach, he said that and that's what he enjoys. He just needs someone on the same page upstairs who understands what it's like to be in his position
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 13:31:51 GMT
When the fans turn and they have turned he tends to act. I think Martin will be gone very soon. Hope you're right but something tells me John will continue to see the manager as the problem and not Martin I want Schumacher to stay and be given a fair run under a proper set up. The top end of our club has been a shit show for too long. It can't be manager after manager failing it has to be a problem higher up
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 21, 2024 13:34:43 GMT
Harris will keep them up no problem. So it's now down to us, QPR or Huddersfield? N you know that how🤷🏼 he’s hardly the Messiah.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 21, 2024 13:38:47 GMT
Harris will keep them up no problem. So it's now down to us, QPR or Huddersfield? On what basis are you saying Harris will keep them up mate?Been there before and sacked wasn’t he or was it his illness?
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 21, 2024 13:46:13 GMT
And hire a previous manager? Most of them are still out of work! No I mean just sack the manager. I can see us making the wrong decision and panicking We’d deserve to go down if we do. It would just be another “shut your eyes and press the panic button” motion from the board. You need a plan when making changes. We never seem to have one.
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 21, 2024 14:33:22 GMT
Harris will keep them up no problem. So it's now down to us, QPR or Huddersfield? On what basis are you saying Harris will keep them up mate?Been there before and sacked wasn’t he or was it his illness? He was sacked yes, but he seems to be the kind of manager that has an instant impact at certain clubs. Can see him getting a tune out of players that are more suited to a direct game in the short term, before he inevitably tails off again like he did at Cardiff too.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 21, 2024 14:41:30 GMT
“beloved Millwall” Just doesn’t sound right does it
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 21, 2024 14:46:02 GMT
Harris will keep them up no problem. So it's now down to us, QPR or Huddersfield? N you know that how🤷🏼 he’s hardly the Messiah. Did pretty ok at Millwall until he quit before but not so much at Gills and Cardiff Wouldn't say no problem .
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 21, 2024 14:59:02 GMT
On what basis are you saying Harris will keep them up mate?Been there before and sacked wasn’t he or was it his illness? He was sacked yes, but he seems to be the kind of manager that has an instant impact at certain clubs. Can see him getting a tune out of players that are more suited to a direct game in the short term, before he inevitably tails off again like he did at Cardiff too. Time will tell on that mate but I’m not so sure he will get a tune.Seems like a desperation appointment to me considering his stints at other clubs since Millwall.I suppose if they stay up they’ll consider it a very worthwhile appointment. I see Foster is getting slaughtered as well at Plymouth so I’d imagine pressure will build up on him also
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 21, 2024 14:59:34 GMT
“beloved Millwall” Just doesn’t sound right does it No mate it certainly doesn’t
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 21, 2024 15:05:18 GMT
One thing is for sure, if we'd appointed Cambridge United's boss to come and save us, there'd be uproar.
He may or may not save them but, like ours might, the owners have seen fit to roll the dice rather than let the current slide continue. It doesn't look like anything long-term at all and I can only presume they have offered him more money on a short term deal than Cambridge can pay him across a longer contract. It's a very desperate move from all involved.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 21, 2024 15:36:00 GMT
Conformation
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