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Post by tqstokie on Feb 15, 2024 12:36:20 GMT
Does a lot of running, passes the ball from A to B, but has no impact on the game whatsoever. We have a lot who pass the ball from A and it never gets to B do they have less impact?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Feb 15, 2024 12:42:20 GMT
He's come at a very, very difficult time. He's joined a team on a losing streak and amidst a toxic atmosphere. That can't be easy for a youngster but he's putting in a shift and that'll do me, we've certainly not seen the best of him. He didn’t. He joined a team who was 6 unbeaten in the league.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 15, 2024 12:49:18 GMT
Cundles is the same age as Junho.
One of them has scored goals and got assists at this level. The other looks nowhere near that.
Both are too young to be singled out though
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 15, 2024 12:51:03 GMT
Plymouth have wank players mate. Yes and no. Whittaker has 17 goals and 7 assists so far. Hardie has 11 goals and 4 assists. Azaz had 7 goals and 5 assists before he left in January. It seems like if you put Cundle in and around players that can actually score he does quite well considering he had 3 goals and 5 assists in a team that is generating plenty of goals and assists. Put him in with our shower of shite, top scorer Vidigal who has flattered to deceive with 5 goals and closely followed by Mmaee with a grand total of 3 goals then I’m not that surprised he hasn’t managed the same impact for us. Yes, he's like all of our other signings. If you stick them around some good KEY signings ie effective strikers, defenders who can defend etc, they can be good players. But you can't build a team around these types of signings.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 15, 2024 13:33:53 GMT
Does a lot of running, passes the ball from A to B, but has no impact on the game whatsoever. We have a lot who pass the ball from A and it never gets to B do they have less impact? Haha- true! ???
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Post by moon on Feb 15, 2024 13:36:39 GMT
He won't be here next year. I actually think he would be a better player in a better team. It's rabbit in the headlights stuff at the moment. There was a play yesterday where he was through just inside their box on the right and played an early pass across to no one instead of driving towards goal and making it more difficult, it looked like he just didn't want to make a mistake. I had seen him live in Under 21s a fair few times and he seemed to boss games but it's a different ball game in the men's. I don't think he's got the physicality to do it here. Assuming Schumacher is here for the start of next season (and I hope he is) then ideally Cundle will be too, and given his form since joining on loan - he shouldn't cost that much. He can be a better player in a better Stoke team next season.
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Post by thestatusquo on Feb 15, 2024 13:53:09 GMT
Not sure what he is. He's seemingly an abstract concept, comprising mainly of a wistful mist tainted by vaguely formed ideas. Saw vaguely formed idea supporting world of twist. Great band
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Post by george2again on Feb 15, 2024 13:53:24 GMT
He won't be here next year. I actually think he would be a better player in a better team. It's rabbit in the headlights stuff at the moment. There was a play yesterday where he was through just inside their box on the right and played an early pass across to no one instead of driving towards goal and making it more difficult, it looked like he just didn't want to make a mistake. I had seen him live in Under 21s a fair few times and he seemed to boss games but it's a different ball game in the men's. I don't think he's got the physicality to do it here. Assuming Schumacher is here for the start of next season (and I hope he is) then ideally Cundle will be too, and given his form since joining on loan - he shouldn't cost that much. He can be a better player in a better Stoke team next season.
But he’s not showing us how he could be better! No a glimpse of what his role is at what he excels at for me. I would rather a second striker.
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Post by moon on Feb 15, 2024 14:38:59 GMT
Assuming Schumacher is here for the start of next season (and I hope he is) then ideally Cundle will be too, and given his form since joining on loan - he shouldn't cost that much. He can be a better player in a better Stoke team next season.
But he’s not showing us how he could be better! No a glimpse of what his role is at what he excels at for me. I would rather a second striker. I expect a lot of changes in the summer in all areas of the pitch, so I'm not sure signing Cundle is going to prevent some other position on the pitch anyway. If Schumacher still wants Cundle in the summer then I think we should sign him.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Feb 15, 2024 14:48:55 GMT
He's come at a very, very difficult time. He's joined a team on a losing streak and amidst a toxic atmosphere. That can't be easy for a youngster but he's putting in a shift and that'll do me, we've certainly not seen the best of him. He didn’t. He joined a team who was 6 unbeaten in the league. Fair enough, the 21 year old has been instrumental in our 4 game consectutive loss run of form and is therefore wank. Thats a bit more of a proper Stokie view.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 15, 2024 15:43:06 GMT
Not sure what he is. He's seemingly an abstract concept, comprising mainly of a wistful mist tainted by vaguely formed ideas. Saw vaguely formed idea supporting world of twist. Great band 7/10 - you forgot to say when you saw them supporting World of Twist. (CLUE: it's the early 90s)
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 15, 2024 15:46:11 GMT
Saw vaguely formed idea supporting world of twist. Great band 7/10 - you forgot to say when you saw them supporting World of Twist. (CLUE: it's the early 90s) They chose vaguely formed idea when Wistful Mist was staring them in the face. Swing and a miss
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Post by jokker on Feb 15, 2024 17:16:37 GMT
He won't be here next year. I actually think he would be a better player in a better team. It's rabbit in the headlights stuff at the moment. There was a play yesterday where he was through just inside their box on the right and played an early pass across to no one instead of driving towards goal and making it more difficult, it looked like he just didn't want to make a mistake. I had seen him live in Under 21s a fair few times and he seemed to boss games but it's a different ball game in the men's. I don't think he's got the physicality to do it here. Assuming Schumacher is here for the start of next season (and I hope he is) then ideally Cundle will be too, and given his form since joining on loan - he shouldn't cost that much. He can be a better player in a better Stoke team next season.
It looks as if he's the one player that Schuhmacher can't do without - whether the Stoke pundits on the terraces realise this or not. Wolves will see that SS has signed him twice and will realise he will do anything to sign Cundle on a regular basis, which means he will cost a lot more than " not that much". Provided Wolves don't plan on using him themselves, SS will use his entire transfer kitty in the summer on Cundle.
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Post by lordb on Feb 15, 2024 17:24:17 GMT
Assuming Schumacher is here for the start of next season (and I hope he is) then ideally Cundle will be too, and given his form since joining on loan - he shouldn't cost that much. He can be a better player in a better Stoke team next season.
It looks as if he's the one player that Schuhmacher can't do without - whether the Stoke pundits on the terraces realise this or not. Wolves will see that SS has signed him twice and will realise he will do anything to sign Cundle on a regular basis, which means he will cost a lot more than " not that much". Provided Wolves don't plan on using him themselves, SS will use his entire transfer kitty in the summer on Cundle. Entire kitty? He's £1.5m Maybe we shouldn't sign him - too early to say imho - however be shocked if that's our summer transfer kiity
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Post by pushon on Feb 15, 2024 17:25:22 GMT
Assuming Schumacher is here for the start of next season (and I hope he is) then ideally Cundle will be too, and given his form since joining on loan - he shouldn't cost that much. He can be a better player in a better Stoke team next season.
It looks as if he's the one player that Schuhmacher can't do without - whether the Stoke pundits on the terraces realise this or not. Wolves will see that SS has signed him twice and will realise he will do anything to sign Cundle on a regular basis, which means he will cost a lot more than " not that much". Provided Wolves don't plan on using him themselves, SS will use his entire transfer kitty in the summer on Cundle. Rather him than the other Wolves loaned.
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Post by jokker on Feb 15, 2024 17:54:08 GMT
It looks as if he's the one player that Schuhmacher can't do without - whether the Stoke pundits on the terraces realise this or not. Wolves will see that SS has signed him twice and will realise he will do anything to sign Cundle on a regular basis, which means he will cost a lot more than " not that much". Provided Wolves don't plan on using him themselves, SS will use his entire transfer kitty in the summer on Cundle. Entire kitty? He's £1.5m Maybe we shouldn't sign him - too early to say imho - however be shocked if that's our summer transfer kiity I don't know the size of it. I don't think anyone does at this point. My point is that SS will do anything to sign him. If you say we should not sign him, then you are questioning, or in fact rejecting, his judgment.
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Post by lordb on Feb 15, 2024 18:53:55 GMT
Entire kitty? He's £1.5m Maybe we shouldn't sign him - too early to say imho - however be shocked if that's our summer transfer kiity I don't know the size of it. I don't think anyone does at this point. My point is that SS will do anything to sign him. If you say we should not sign him, then you are questioning, or in fact rejecting, his judgment. I'm not saying we should or should sign him, he's barely played for us I was merely questioning what appeared to be an absurd statement that Stoke would spend majority of the summer transfer kitty on him given we know the fee is around £1.5m
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 15, 2024 18:58:45 GMT
7/10 - you forgot to say when you saw them supporting World of Twist. (CLUE: it's the early 90s) They chose vaguely formed idea when Wistful Mist was staring them in the face. Swing and a miss Both mesmerising shoegaze ensembles
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Post by jokker on Feb 15, 2024 19:11:07 GMT
I don't know the size of it. I don't think anyone does at this point. My point is that SS will do anything to sign him. If you say we should not sign him, then you are questioning, or in fact rejecting, his judgment. I'm not saying we should or should sign him, he's barely played for us I was merely questioning what appeared to be an absurd statement that Stoke would spend majority of the summer transfer kitty on him given we know the fee is around £1.5m It was perhaps a bad calculation, but, I'll stay with the thought regardless. Cundle could become Stoke's key player while Schuhmacher is in in charge, because, unlike most/all of the current squad, he understands what SS wants from his players, having had a half season of it already. Ideally SS would sign a host of better players in the summer, but office politics and squad retention renders it unlikely. so he has to mold a squad around Cundle - and Burger and Bae. "quote author=" lordb": "I'm not saying we should or should sign him". I guess you're saying we should buy Cundle
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Post by thestatusquo on Feb 16, 2024 11:47:53 GMT
Saw vaguely formed idea supporting world of twist. Great band 7/10 - you forgot to say when you saw them supporting World of Twist. (CLUE: it's the early 90s) Ha ha I was rushing. I normally would 😀
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 16, 2024 12:15:44 GMT
Bojan was an absolute fanny for about his first dozen games trying to out jump players to win headers who were twice his height and had very little impact at all, then he lit the stadium up once he found his feet. I'm not comparing their abilities because they are different levels but Schumacher likes this lad and obviously see's a lot of potential in him. In time he may win everyone over, he just needs time to gel with the other players and for the fans to get behind him rather than slate him.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 16, 2024 12:23:12 GMT
From the limited amount of games he's had with us, he's not really done anything of note, he looks fragile; however, it's very early days, and he's young and needs time before a true assessment can be made.
All this 'he's a player, he'd be better in a better team, he does x y x' passive aggressive 'I can spot a player, you cant' posts are great😀
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Post by lordb on Feb 16, 2024 12:27:37 GMT
I'm not saying we should or should sign him, he's barely played for us I was merely questioning what appeared to be an absurd statement that Stoke would spend majority of the summer transfer kitty on him given we know the fee is around £1.5m It was perhaps a bad calculation, but, I'll stay with the thought regardless. Cundle could become Stoke's key player while Schuhmacher is in in charge, because, unlike most/all of the current squad, he understands what SS wants from his players, having had a half season of it already. Ideally SS would sign a host of better players in the summer, but office politics and squad retention renders it unlikely. so he has to mold a squad around Cundle - and Burger and Bae. "quote author=" lordb": "I'm not saying we should or should sign him". I guess you're saying we should buy Cundle Sigh... 😵💫 I'll take a view in May Wouldn't play him tomorrow, he ran his nuts off v QPR but the game passed him buy
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Post by jokker on Feb 16, 2024 12:35:50 GMT
It was perhaps a bad calculation, but, I'll stay with the thought regardless. Cundle could become Stoke's key player while Schuhmacher is in in charge, because, unlike most/all of the current squad, he understands what SS wants from his players, having had a half season of it already. Ideally SS would sign a host of better players in the summer, but office politics and squad retention renders it unlikely. so he has to mold a squad around Cundle - and Burger and Bae. "quote author=" lordb": "I'm not saying we should or should sign him". I guess you're saying we should buy Cundle Sigh... 😵💫 I'll take a view in May Wouldn't play him tomorrow, he ran his nuts off v QPR but the game passed him buy That was also indicated by Cavanagh, although he didn't give any names.
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Post by Bagwash on Feb 16, 2024 12:47:23 GMT
From the limited amount of games he's had with us, he's not really done anything of note, he looks fragile; however, it's very early days, and he's young and needs time before a true assessment can be made. All this 'he's a player, he'd be better in a better team, he does x y x' passive aggressive 'I can spot a player, you cant' posts are great😀 This. Not been overly impressed with Cundle but I'll support him and save my judgement until the end of the season.
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Post by pez75 on Feb 16, 2024 13:10:25 GMT
Made a point of watching him for a spell on Wednesday. His workrate, movement and constant attempts to find space were very impressive. If we can improve in getting him involved in training I think he could be a cracking attacking player. Not happening at the mo, so I understand some of the criticism coming his way especially with how lightweight he is, but I think he will come good if SS sticks with him.
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Post by boothenesque on Feb 16, 2024 23:16:30 GMT
We'll slag him off, drag him down, like we have done with others, it's what we do, Smallbone used to get a lot of stick on here. How is he doing? Jack Clark, Doughty, depressing to recall the many more. It's always been that way.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 17, 2024 0:24:10 GMT
We'll slag him off, drag him down, like we have done with others, it's what we do, Smallbone used to get a lot of stick on here. How is he doing? Jack Clark, Doughty, depressing to recall the many more. It's always been that way. Smallbone was largely shit for us. What he's doing now is irrelevant. Same with Clarke and Doughty (what little we saw of him). There will be many reasons that all these players failed at Stoke but what a bunch of cranks on a low-traffic internet messageboard think is definitely not one of them.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Feb 17, 2024 1:40:17 GMT
He was scoring and getting assists earlier this season for Plymouth. He's playing with wank players here. That's the difference Plymouth have wank players mate. Not as wank as ours. Plymouth are 4 places above us ideapite losing their “promising young manager” recently
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Post by RF10 on Feb 17, 2024 10:57:35 GMT
Plymouth have wank players mate. Not as wank as ours. Plymouth are 4 places above us ideapite losing their “promising young manager” recently * 2 points.
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