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Post by werrington on Feb 14, 2024 22:42:59 GMT
Yep let’s get stuck into a player who’s been here around 4 weeks and has just played a fantastic part in a much needed victory
Only at Stoke
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Feb 14, 2024 23:15:05 GMT
Reminds me of Joe Allen.
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Post by loosestools on Feb 14, 2024 23:22:27 GMT
Neat and tidy but produced nothing very positive in his link up play.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 14, 2024 23:38:25 GMT
I wouldn't drop him for Saturday that's for sure.
If we can get some continuity with selections involving players who want to be here, put the team before their ego and don't hide we might grind out enough points to get us over the line.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2024 23:40:33 GMT
He ran a lot I guess but to no real end.
Good effort but yeah an absolute nothing player.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 14, 2024 23:49:38 GMT
Does a lot of running, passes the ball from A to B, but has no impact on the game whatsoever.
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Post by greyface on Feb 14, 2024 23:49:48 GMT
His work rate is phenomenal. In a team that presses well he’d be very successful. We don’t. But I like him and would persevere in the hope he drags everyone else up to that level, if that’s the style we want to employ
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Post by a on Feb 14, 2024 23:52:51 GMT
I’m willing to give him a chance. We’ve seen it done with a few of our players and loanees in recent years who’ve gone on to forge good careers:
Smallbone Brown Doughty Clarke THB Osigard
Etc.
Not saying he’ll be great or as good as those listed but some on here were writing Burger off not that long ago.
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Post by thehoof on Feb 14, 2024 23:56:45 GMT
I remember most “fans” having the same gripe about Will Smallbone. Yet he’s pretty much ever present in a team challenging for automatic promotion. I don’t think Cundle has done anything yet for Stoke- perhaps he will be totally useless as the experts think. Perhaps he’ll weigh in with a goal or two before the end of the season; I don’t know and neither do our marvellous Oatcake talent scouts.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Feb 15, 2024 0:38:31 GMT
He's a Mason Mount type player. He needs an attacking unit to work with, to link with. When he has that he will chip in with goals and assists and put in a shift for the team. The problem here is we don't have any effective attacking players. I'd say Ennis looks promising and looks like the only capable attacking player we have. Sack Dublin, Sack Martin Mason Mount is wank. The very comparison agrees with the title of the thread you’ve attempted to disagree with. Unless he shows anything in the next few appearances then his presence can’t be explained by anything other than dressing room grass status and even this shower would rightly be pissed off that he’s there.
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Post by jordan2009 on Feb 15, 2024 0:48:31 GMT
His work rate is phenomenal. In a team that presses well he’d be very successful. We don’t. But I like him and would persevere in the hope he drags everyone else up to that level, if that’s the style we want to employ I think if Schumacher does his own recruitment in the summer and brings in the kind of players he wants the Caundle becomes an important part of the side. For me he's someone who keeps the ball moving, keeps the side going forward with his one touch football. He will be excellent in the press. Unfortunately we haven't got those players yet. He gets in the side at the moment for his work rate. I'd rather see a Cundle than an ambling Josh Laurent in our midfield/attack
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Post by stokiedan17 on Feb 15, 2024 1:18:52 GMT
Funnily enough I was wondering at the match whether we are at risk of turning burger into Joe Allen ( during the relegation season) And by that I mean Joe had been playing well but was running all over the pitch trying to do everything and carry the weight of the team on his shoulders. Whilst burger is a bit more controlled I noticed a few times tonight he was just running all over the place trying to win the ball everywhere and just looked like he felt like he was responsible for covering everyone in the team.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Feb 15, 2024 1:35:25 GMT
Think it’s a Jack Clarke scenario,bit light weight at Stoke but looks a fantastic player now at Sunderland.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 15, 2024 8:42:19 GMT
He was scoring and getting assists earlier this season for Plymouth. He's playing with wank players here. That's the difference Plymouth have wank players mate. Yes and no. Whittaker has 17 goals and 7 assists so far. Hardie has 11 goals and 4 assists. Azaz had 7 goals and 5 assists before he left in January. It seems like if you put Cundle in and around players that can actually score he does quite well considering he had 3 goals and 5 assists in a team that is generating plenty of goals and assists. Put him in with our shower of shite, top scorer Vidigal who has flattered to deceive with 5 goals and closely followed by Mmaee with a grand total of 3 goals then I’m not that surprised he hasn’t managed the same impact for us.
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Post by vinnyoverson on Feb 15, 2024 8:50:15 GMT
You can see how much more effective he’d be in a team that’s on the front foot, dominating possession and playing quick incisive passes. Sadly, we’re pretty far from that side at the moment, and so he’s having to show another side to his game. He is very lightweight (not his fault) but thought he worked his arse off last night and was positionally decent and tried to be positive on the ball.
Personally I’d prefer Laurent in that type of game but clearly he couldn’t start and Schuey clearly trusts Cundle to do the job asked of him.
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 15, 2024 9:30:24 GMT
I wouldn't drop him for Saturday that's for sure. If we can get some continuity with selections involving players who want to be here, put the team before their ego and don't hide we might grind out enough points to get us over the line. I think it is time to have a core group of players to hammer out those 1-0s. We've been a terrible okey-kokey team and if we can bring players together then all well and good. If that includes Cundle, so be it. It's the end result I'm interested in.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 15, 2024 9:57:08 GMT
I wouldn't drop him for Saturday that's for sure. If we can get some continuity with selections involving players who want to be here, put the team before their ego and don't hide we might grind out enough points to get us over the line. I think it is time to have a core group of players to hammer out those 1-0s. We've been a terrible okey-kokey team and if we can bring players together then all well and good. If that includes Cundle, so be it. It's the end result I'm interested in. Precisely my point. Let some partnerships develop in key areas of the field rather than playing a mixed bag of strangers each week.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 15, 2024 10:11:43 GMT
With Bae and Cundle behind a lone striker like Ennis, we're very lightweight and it's not as if we can rely on pace from those three. I'm not sure last night worked terribly well other than the result. Coventry are a form team and. we'll have our work cut out. Last night's starting XI won't cut it in my view and SS will need to think long and hard now we have Million available and Laurent back. I also wonder whether Junior and Hoever would be better swapping as it wasn't smooth last night.
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2024 10:14:57 GMT
Stick with him, he will come good I think
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 15, 2024 10:21:07 GMT
I don’t see anything yet. You have to trust our recruitment team know what they are doing, more trust like Burger than Leris trust 🤣
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Post by emretezzy on Feb 15, 2024 10:31:59 GMT
He won't be here next year.
I actually think he would be a better player in a better team.
It's rabbit in the headlights stuff at the moment.
There was a play yesterday where he was through just inside their box on the right and played an early pass across to no one instead of driving towards goal and making it more difficult, it looked like he just didn't want to make a mistake.
I had seen him live in Under 21s a fair few times and he seemed to boss games but it's a different ball game in the men's. I don't think he's got the physicality to do it here.
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Post by tuum on Feb 15, 2024 10:36:51 GMT
Apparently he 'links the play'. Which is code for 'neat and tidy with little impact'. In short another warm body to chuck in to the fray. Just like Bae then?
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Feb 15, 2024 10:38:17 GMT
He's come at a very, very difficult time. He's joined a team on a losing streak and amidst a toxic atmosphere. That can't be easy for a youngster but he's putting in a shift and that'll do me, we've certainly not seen the best of him.
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Post by werrington on Feb 15, 2024 10:41:37 GMT
He's come at a very, very difficult time. He's joined a team on a losing streak and amidst a toxic atmosphere. That can't be easy for a youngster but he's putting in a shift and that'll do me, we've certainly not seen the best of him. Nailed it mate
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 15, 2024 11:59:30 GMT
He's perfectly fine, we just already have one of him, and he's called Bae Junho.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 15, 2024 12:12:13 GMT
Not sure what he is. He's seemingly an abstract concept, comprising mainly of a wistful mist tainted by vaguely formed ideas. There's a band name in there somewhere but I can't quite pin it down...
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 15, 2024 12:27:44 GMT
He's perfectly fine, we just already have one of him, and he's called Bae Junho. Junho is twice the player Cundle is. He drives forward and takes people on, turns them in tight spaces and gets us on the front foot. Cundle is a neat passer but he gets muscled off the ball easily, which Junho doesn't , despite his slight physique.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2024 12:31:39 GMT
Not sure what he is. He's seemingly an abstract concept, comprising mainly of a wistful mist tainted by vaguely formed ideas. There's a band name in there somewhere but I can't quite pin it down... There is danceswithclams saw Wistful Mist support World of Twist in the early 90’s apparently a great band.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2024 12:32:52 GMT
Yep let’s get stuck into a player who’s been here around 4 weeks and has just played a fantastic part in a much needed victory Only at Stoke Really only at Stoke, fans comment on how poor a player is when he’s contributed very little since arriving? Can’t say I believe that little gem to be honest.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 15, 2024 12:35:24 GMT
Yep let’s get stuck into a player who’s been here around 4 weeks and has just played a fantastic part in a much needed victory Only at Stoke He played but in no way was his role "fantastic". If all we aspire to is people who run a lot let's target athletes not footballers. As soon as we decided to sit back in the second half, the manager should have replaced him with someone capable of supporting Ennis on the break. He is young and has potential but not our job to deliver it when we have better on the bench.
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