Defence?

[stokiesteve]

Do we have enough?

The goals leaked at Sunderland were worrying.

Hoped to see a signing. Centre half is a problem and we still haven’t really solved the goalkeeper question in my view.

[satoshi]

Yes

[idle]

We have enough until summer. We won't go up, but I think the chance of going down is slim to nil.

[cvillestokie]

I think we’ll continue to make comically bad defensive errors with Rose and McNally. Iversen seems to be better at claiming high balls in the box than Bonham. That will help us.

Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

[Roger Everyone]

Feb 2, 2024 12:55:46 GMT cvillestokie said:

I think we’ll continue to make comically bad defensive errors with Rose and McNally. Iversen seems to be better at claiming high balls in the box than Bonham. That will help us.

Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

The best defence is Attack.

And our two new signings our forwards.

[cvillestokie]

Feb 2, 2024 13:00:10 GMT Roger Everyone said:

Feb 2, 2024 12:55:46 GMT cvillestokie said:

I think we’ll continue to make comically bad defensive errors with Rose and McNally. Iversen seems to be better at claiming high balls in the box than Bonham. That will help us.

Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

The best defence is Attack.

And our two new signings our forwards.

The best defence is a defence that doesn’t make mistakes. I don’t mind us conceding to better teams but we’ve also conceded a lot of goals from players falling asleep. In fact, that’s really how we have conceded many of our goals, to date.

I think that this hasn’t happened as much under SS. It may just be that AN’s zero intensity game bored our defenders into mistakes in the same way that it bored me into work 😂.

I’m happy with the January business anyways. Don’t think we could have done much more in January.

[idle]

Feb 2, 2024 13:06:02 GMT cvillestokie said:

Feb 2, 2024 13:00:10 GMT Roger Everyone said:

The best defence is Attack.

And our two new signings our forwards.

The best defence is a defence that doesn’t make mistakes. I don’t mind us conceding to better teams but we’ve also conceded a lot of goals from players falling asleep. In fact, that’s really how we have conceded many of our goals, to date.

I think that this hasn’t happened as much under SS. It may just be that AN’s zero intensity game bored our defenders into mistakes in the same way that it bored me into work 😂.

I’m happy with the January business anyways. Don’t think we could have done much more in January.

Pfft, all goals are defensive mistakes. Except bangers from 25-30y free-kicks.

[Staffsoatcake]

When we do keep clean sheets,it's mainly down to poor finishing rather than good defending.

[somersetstokie]

Defence? I think overall it is a good thing, and yes we should have one.

[blackpoolred]

Nowhere near enough defenders is the answer to that question.

Not one viable left-sided defender in the squad, Stoke would argue they have one in Stevens, but he had hardly played a game in 2 years before he came here and has been injured a lot and knowing he is now, possibly, out for the rest of Feb - totally unforgivable that we did not sign somebody for that position - we seem happy and content just to play a square pegs in defence - how did that go last week? Should have been top priority in this window and you have to try and get at least 2 players competing for each position - pathetic to have one mediocre player in his 30's who is always injured as your only option - some would say a relegation mind set

You should be looking to have 5 or 6 central defenders in the squad, after the last Jan window we had just 2 fit/viable central defenders and one of those was a 40 year old - this year we have just 3 to chose from - its not enough in a position that is physical and where players are more likely to pick up injuries, one long term injury in that position then we have no back-up and will be expecting the same 2 to play every game until the end of the season - we also needed height in that position, for the last 2 seasons we have been conceding goals either directly or indirectly from headers

Then when you look at the quality we have in defensive positions - it becomes another issue.

In short we lack quality and competition for places across the whole of the back line - but it has been the same since about a year before Hughes left and no manager has rectified the problem or ever seems to have an issue with it - we started our relegation season from the prem with a centre-forward as our only option at right-back and that has been pretty much the mentality of the club since - hoping our latest British punt would be different - but apparently not.

[foxysgloves]

What defence?

[stokiesteve]

Feb 2, 2024 6:26:18 GMT satoshi said:

Yes

Still see it the same way?

[stokiesteve]

Feb 2, 2024 15:49:48 GMT somersetstokie said:

Defence? I think overall it is a good thing, and yes we should have one.

Yes wise words

[citynickscfc]

Feb 2, 2024 7:50:43 GMT idle said:

We have enough until summer. We won't go up, but I think the chance of going down is slim to nil.

Eh????

[apb1]

Another pen. We couldn't even keep it 0-4

[chamberlain]

We are in the shit big style

[tejstokie]

Still don't think we needed two in the window? Anyone saying we had enough, only needed one and a fwd was priority my god I'll have what they're havin'

[satoshi]

Feb 3, 2024 16:52:38 GMT stokiesteve said:

Feb 2, 2024 6:26:18 GMT satoshi said:

Yes

Still see it the same way?

More so if that’s possible 

[figo85]

Our defense is atrocious. It’s not even funny anymore.

[strettonstokie]

We haven't got one

[sportsman]

I can honestly say, and I’m not exaggerating, every one of the defenders ion our books are the worst defender I’ve ever seen in a stoke shirt since I’ve been going 1980, and I include wimmer in that

[clintonbaptiste]

A veteran striker has outrun our defence, I get Leicester are mikes better than us but fuck me

[onionman]

Worst defence since the Brian Little season. Shameful to a man. It's beyond worrying that the manager thought this defence was good enough.

[11wilkosinateam]

Feb 3, 2024 17:04:44 GMT sportsman said:

I can honestly say, and I’m not exaggerating, every one of the defenders ion our books are the worst defender I’ve ever seen in a stoke shirt since I’ve been going 1980, and I include wimmer in that

I'd take Sonko, big Phil and Danny Collins above these oxygen thieves

[tejstokie]

Feb 3, 2024 17:04:44 GMT sportsman said:

I can honestly say, and I’m not exaggerating, every one of the defenders ion our books are the worst defender I’ve ever seen in a stoke shirt since I’ve been going 1980, and I include wimmer in that

I'd have wimmer in this side with wilson next to him in a heartbeat its that bad.

[rdf10]

Whenever Ben Wilmot plays we are completely and utterly useless. 18 appearances, 33 goals conceded - average 1.83 goals per game.

Without him we've conceded 17 in 16. 1.06 average. In a back three he's alright but he's a car crash in a back four. Needs to be on the bench.

[tejstokie]

Feb 3, 2024 17:06:17 GMT onionman said:

Worst defence since the Brian Little season. Shameful to a man. It's beyond worrying that the manager thought this defence was good enough.

Not just the manager, half this bloody board too when people like myself were like, hold on. wtf.

[smudger46]

This lot are taking us down especially now the window is closed. They have not a clue for so called professional footballers.

[wakefieldstokie]

No cb no lb, utter stupidity- we’re on track for relegation

[sportsman]

I can cope with the rest of the signings, but what chance have they got with that defence behind them? They daren’t push forward for fear of what’s behind them.

People naming wimmer and Wilson aren’t joking. Worst defence in my lifetime