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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 28, 2024 16:22:36 GMT
The stuff I’ve seen on Twitter doesn’t look that bad?
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 28, 2024 16:39:09 GMT
Reckon that’s a baton strike to the head…location of injury plus he’s clearly nicked as well. Gonna hurt in the morning.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 28, 2024 16:42:28 GMT
Reckon that’s a baton strike to the head…location of injury plus he’s clearly nicked as well. Gonna hurt in the morning. Good.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 28, 2024 16:53:26 GMT
Reckon that’s a baton strike to the head…location of injury plus he’s clearly nicked as well. Gonna hurt in the morning. It definitely is, I've seen the footage of him hit a policeman in the face, his injury & arrest is a consequence of this. I'd post it if I could but isn't a direct link
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 28, 2024 17:01:23 GMT
There’s hatred between fans in this match at a level that doesn’t exist in Stoke v Vale games. I think you are mistaken if you think it wouldn't happen if we played the Vale. Sadly I think it would mate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 17:10:00 GMT
There’s hatred between fans in this match at a level that doesn’t exist in Stoke v Vale games. I think you are mistaken if you think it wouldn't happen if we played the Vale. Sadly I think it would mate. Massively mistaken. The club got hit with a load of banning orders from the last time we played Vale. And that was an Under 23s game.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 28, 2024 17:12:18 GMT
We had enough of that in the 1970's, one of the reasons supporting the move to all seated stadiums Rivallry and Banter is fine but violence is never an option and leads to bans and fines for those involved as well as the club. Worse still innocent bystanders may get injured too. There is no acceptable excuse
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jan 28, 2024 17:28:55 GMT
I go to the football with my mum, she’s rather well to-do and was spat at outside their ground, I’ve had bottles thrown at me in the same place. I’ve travelled up and down the country and never had any problems aimed at either of us. Close that club down and it would only be a good thing.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 28, 2024 17:35:51 GMT
Oh how I yearn for the days at the Vic, when I see games at the Hawthorns or Molineux.
I used to go to both grounds regularly in the 60s when at Birmingham Uni.
Used to watch the Doog at Wolves and Astle at West Brom, and "weep" at us selling Ritchie.
The we brought Ritchie back and the golden era began.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 17:42:06 GMT
Problem now is social media and the pathetic ultras abroad. You’ve got all these sides now with ultras dressed in black like Leicester, palace and many more.
All no doubt watched on social media fans from Europe walking through English streets on European nights with the drum and loud chanting all dressed in black.
Loads of youth club massives now at all clubs right down to the lower leagues. Luckily our youth club imported from block 19 to the south stand, I’d say about 30, have been banned.
It’s a growing trend coming back. With cameras everywhere now it’s simple to stamp out if the authorities do their jobs properly
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2024 18:03:23 GMT
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Post by glpotter on Jan 28, 2024 18:07:15 GMT
Good scrap
If these idiots want to knock shades out of each other let them
Good viewing all the same
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 18:10:55 GMT
What do we reckon punishment will be for West Brom big fine? Doesn’t seem enough really for what happened no doubt around families.
I hope they end up banning dozens and dozens of them when picked out
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Post by glpotter on Jan 28, 2024 18:12:22 GMT
What do we reckon punishment will be for West Brom big fine? Doesn’t seem enough really for what happened no doubt around families. I hope they end up banning dozens and dozens of them when picked out Points deduction/straight swap with Stoke in the league Only fair
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 28, 2024 18:15:22 GMT
What do we reckon punishment will be for West Brom big fine? Doesn’t seem enough really for what happened no doubt around families. I hope they end up banning dozens and dozens of them when picked out Force them to play in a crap hole next home games
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Post by milton58 on Jan 28, 2024 18:18:20 GMT
Wolves always game at the Vic TBF baggies not in there league tbh
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 18:23:29 GMT
What do we reckon punishment will be for West Brom big fine? Doesn’t seem enough really for what happened no doubt around families. I hope they end up banning dozens and dozens of them when picked out Force them to play in a crap hole next home games So stay where they are then?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 28, 2024 18:27:28 GMT
Ah righto mate. I didn't see the game. Just going on the hysterical ITV reaction to it. I suspect they were more pissed that they couldn't do the full wankfest for Klippety There's a good chance she'll crop up on Jazzy Dublin's database after that.
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Post by a on Jan 28, 2024 18:50:23 GMT
Going off in the stands now…wolves in the home end It’s sad that adults can’t behave like normal functioning humans. They should be embarrassed and ashamed but sadly they won’t. Imagine being that emotionally unstable that you use a game to lose your temper and behave like a child who lost at monopoly. It’s pathetic.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 28, 2024 19:41:58 GMT
Problem now is social media and the pathetic ultras abroad. You’ve got all these sides now with ultras dressed in black like Leicester, palace and many more. All no doubt watched on social media fans from Europe walking through English streets on European nights with the drum and loud chanting all dressed in black. Loads of youth club massives now at all clubs right down to the lower leagues. Luckily our youth club imported from block 19 to the south stand, I’d say about 30, have been banned. It’s a growing trend coming back. With cameras everywhere now it’s simple to stamp out if the authorities do their jobs properly So Sportsman , leaving aside your assertion that the violence witnessed today is the result of European fans walking through English streets i am still waiting for you to tell me , and other readers, about the “ English March “ you referred to earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 19:55:19 GMT
Problem now is social media and the pathetic ultras abroad. You’ve got all these sides now with ultras dressed in black like Leicester, palace and many more. All no doubt watched on social media fans from Europe walking through English streets on European nights with the drum and loud chanting all dressed in black. Loads of youth club massives now at all clubs right down to the lower leagues. Luckily our youth club imported from block 19 to the south stand, I’d say about 30, have been banned. It’s a growing trend coming back. With cameras everywhere now it’s simple to stamp out if the authorities do their jobs properly So Sportsman , leaving aside your assertion that the violence witnessed today is the result of European fans walking through English streets i am still waiting for you to tell me , and other readers, about the “ English March “ you referred to earlier. He hasn't said that at all. The point he's made regarding European fans and social media is that it has heavily influenced the football culture of a good majority of the younger kids watching football these days who have gone to set up ultra-style groups (Arsenal, Palace, Leicester, Boro, Huddersfield, Ipswich, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen to name a few). I think the "English March" he has referred to was the Rememberance counter-protest to the Palestine marches. Although, I could be wrong.
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Post by satoshi on Jan 28, 2024 20:00:45 GMT
We’re not witnessing an uptick in English hooliganism. An oap chasing a ref and baggies fans being clobbered by police are two very isolated incidents.
English fans and grounds have still never been so sterile.
There’s also an argument that we’re being unfairly antagonised, the approach towards us is completely wrong and outdated. Like confiscating coins.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 20:01:46 GMT
Problem now is social media and the pathetic ultras abroad. You’ve got all these sides now with ultras dressed in black like Leicester, palace and many more. All no doubt watched on social media fans from Europe walking through English streets on European nights with the drum and loud chanting all dressed in black. Loads of youth club massives now at all clubs right down to the lower leagues. Luckily our youth club imported from block 19 to the south stand, I’d say about 30, have been banned. It’s a growing trend coming back. With cameras everywhere now it’s simple to stamp out if the authorities do their jobs properly So Sportsman , leaving aside your assertion that the violence witnessed today is the result of European fans walking through English streets i am still waiting for you to tell me , and other readers, about the “ English March “ you referred to earlier. What you on about now you weapon? Bloody google it Remembrance Day. Loads of videos online of heavy handed policing for the English defence league and other normal English/ British people marching through the streets of London that day compared to the daren’t say boo to them approach to the Palestine march on the same day.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 28, 2024 20:30:58 GMT
So Sportsman , leaving aside your assertion that the violence witnessed today is the result of European fans walking through English streets i am still waiting for you to tell me , and other readers, about the “ English March “ you referred to earlier. What you on about now you weapon? Bloody google it Remembrance Day. Loads of videos online of heavy handed policing for the English defence league and other normal English/ British people marching through the streets of London that day compared to the daren’t say boo to them approach to the Palestine march on the same day. Ooh I say ! Weapon eh ? I’ve never come close to being labelled a weapon before. What am I on about ? It’s you that referenced the English March not me. I merely asked you what you meant. Right so you think the hundreds of English Defence League supporters that fought the police to gain access to the restricted area around the Cenotaph are “normal English/British “ people and that the half million people who marched in a completely different part of London are not normal English/British people. Thank you, you have made your perspective on the matter very clear.
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 28, 2024 20:55:40 GMT
I think you are mistaken if you think it wouldn't happen if we played the Vale. Sadly I think it would mate. Massively mistaken. The club got hit with a load of banning orders from the last time we played Vale. And that was an Under 23s game. Were there Stoke fans in the Vale end that night? “On 4 December 2018, Stoke's under-21s lost 4–0 to Vale's first team in the EFL Trophy at Vale Park, and after the match an estimated "minority of 150-200 people" within Stoke's 4,000 ticket allocation trashed the away end at Vale Park”. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potteries_derbyThat would have been the first derby since early 2002 and unlike today’s game was a night game. The Stoke v Vale rivalry seemed to decrease in intensity overall after that initial period (1989 to 1996) through to 2002. Without checking, I would say the attendances also tailed off. Don’t think the same applies to games between WBA V Wolves.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 21:00:21 GMT
Good clip of it here. Looks like a West Brom fan aged about 70 kicked it off when he barged past other fans and kicked what I guess is a wolves fan being guarded by a policeman then it all kicked off. Around 12 mins on when wolves score second.
One thing I would say is out of this clip and others they say it’s a criminal offence to go onto the pitch.
How many of these West Brom fans will get banned by their club for jumping out of the stand behind the goal and go towards the other stand entering the pitch?
Answer I’d say none
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 21:01:49 GMT
Massively mistaken. The club got hit with a load of banning orders from the last time we played Vale. And that was an Under 23s game. Were there Stoke fans in the Vale end that night? “On 4 December 2018, Stoke's under-21s lost 4–0 to Vale's first team in the EFL Trophy at Vale Park, and after the match an estimated "minority of 150-200 people" within Stoke's 4,000 ticket allocation trashed the away end at Vale Park”. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potteries_derbyThat would have been the first derby since early 2002 and unlike today’s game was a night game. The Stoke v Vale rivalry seemed to decrease in intensity overall after that initial period (1989 to 1996) through to 2002. Without checking, I would say the attendances also tailed off. Don’t think the same applies to games between WBA V Wolves. Hopefully this won't come across as rude, what is the point you're trying to make?
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 28, 2024 21:13:07 GMT
Were there Stoke fans in the Vale end that night? “On 4 December 2018, Stoke's under-21s lost 4–0 to Vale's first team in the EFL Trophy at Vale Park, and after the match an estimated "minority of 150-200 people" within Stoke's 4,000 ticket allocation trashed the away end at Vale Park”. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potteries_derbyThat would have been the first derby since early 2002 and unlike today’s game was a night game. The Stoke v Vale rivalry seemed to decrease in intensity overall after that initial period (1989 to 1996) through to 2002. Without checking, I would say the attendances also tailed off. Don’t think the same applies to games between WBA V Wolves. Hopefully this won't come across as rude, what is the point you're trying to make? Don’t believe there is the same level of hatred between Stoke and Vale and that the derby has lost the intensity from 1996. Even going back to 1995 interest was less intense: 27 August 1995 Port Vale H 0–1 14,283 Were the banning orders for Stoke fans causing disturbances in the home end or for smashing up the away end?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 21:20:31 GMT
Hopefully this won't come across as rude, what is the point you're trying to make? Don’t believe there is the same level of hatred between Stoke and Vale and that the derby has lost the intensity from 2006. Even going back to 2005 interest was less intense: 27 August 1995 Port Vale H 0–1 14,283 Were the banning orders for Stoke fans causing disturbances in the home end or for smashing up the away end? There were a lot of arrests before and after the game. I would have to disagree with that. We shifted 3000/4000 tickets in the space of a couple of days for that Under 23s fixture, which clearly shows the appetite for the rivalry is still there. I'm sure the next time we play each other in a league or cup fixture the demand for tickets will be massive and it will be a massive buzz across the city.
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Post by albundy on Jan 28, 2024 21:32:27 GMT
Don’t believe there is the same level of hatred between Stoke and Vale and that the derby has lost the intensity from 2006. Even going back to 2005 interest was less intense: 27 August 1995 Port Vale H 0–1 14,283 Were the banning orders for Stoke fans causing disturbances in the home end or for smashing up the away end? There were a lot of arrests before and after the game. I would have to disagree with that. We shifted 3000/4000 tickets in the space of a couple of days for that Under 23s fixture, which clearly shows the appetite for the rivalry is still there. I'm sure the next time we play each other in a league or cup fixture the demand for tickets will be massive and it will be a massive buzz across the city. 100% the demand would be there if we played them in a meaningful game. A lot of people weren't too fussed about the U23 game but it would be the first derby for a generation of fans. There have always been Stoke fans in the Vale end at the derby games and I'm sure Vale fans in with Stoke fans When Bogie scored in the first minute at their place all them years ago there were a sizeable number who just moved to the front of the terrace/paddock.
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