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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 14:15:02 GMT
I think he’s saying it’s one rule for certain sections of society compared to football fans You can’t compare the 2 though? For starters this is happening in an enclosed space and far higher risk for that reason. You also have 2 separate group of fans who hate each other if it’s not dealt with robustly it could get far worse quickly. You mean when the coppers wading in at the English crowd in London on the same march day they let Palestine march please themselves? Yeh right
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 14:15:29 GMT
Anyone remember the massive kick-off we had against Wolves around 2002 or 2003 time? Seem to remember some Wolves fan in the home end getting thrown down some stairs and someone ripping an advertising hoarding up and chucking it at some Wolves players. Pretty sure the game never stopped even though it was going mental in the stands at several points. It wouldn't have been stopped because we didn't live in a wet fart society back then.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 28, 2024 14:16:24 GMT
Meh, not as good as that Vale fan yesterday.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 14:18:03 GMT
What part do you disagree with? Read Cobham's explanation above. He puts it far better than I could. Bottom line is if the the pricks could behave themselves there would be no need for any police intervention. I’ve responded to his wrong answer to it. The bottom line isn’t that though. The first post about it was the police’s way they respond compared to other crowd gatherings and trouble. Have you not seen the videos online on what others get away with while the police stand by? That was his point
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2024 14:20:44 GMT
I see they’ve moved the draw until half time to fit the Klopp wankathon in🙄🤮🤮
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 28, 2024 14:22:33 GMT
You can’t compare the 2 though? For starters this is happening in an enclosed space and far higher risk for that reason. You also have 2 separate group of fans who hate each other if it’s not dealt with robustly it could get far worse quickly. Not rocket science is it? add to it resources too. Footy always has the PSU who are specially trained for public order.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2024 14:22:56 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 14:23:38 GMT
I see they’ve moved the draw until half time to fit the Klopp wankathon in🙄🤮🤮 Part of me wants klopp to leave on a high, for him, the other part wants them go out of every competition. Or lthem go out on a high then nosedive for years
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 14:25:47 GMT
Not rocket science is it? add to it resources too. Footy always has the PSU who are specially trained for public order. What the hell happened on that day in London not long ago then? Did they have volunteers for the day instead of trained police? Check the videos out of how they dealt with the English march.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 28, 2024 14:29:55 GMT
Bet the wmp really enjoyed this they loved (starting) a good ruck back in the day.. no they didn't start this one...
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 28, 2024 14:44:08 GMT
add to it resources too. Footy always has the PSU who are specially trained for public order. What the hell happened on that day in London not long ago then? Did they have volunteers for the day instead of trained police? Check the videos out of how they dealt with the English march. Your minds clearly set but here’s some pointers - It’s a lot easier to deal with a pre determined event like a football game because you can get the resources available before hand both for those in/outside the ground. They’re more prepared and will have PSU in and would have gathered intelligence. - I might be wrong and you may need to tell me this but by all accounts there were some serious injuries to fans at todays game, whereas I’m not aware of many at the protests where there were many more in attendance which suggests that the level of violence wasn’t as high. If officers are met with high levels of violence I’d imagine they deal with those involved more robustly and if not it’s more about engaging and using community leaders. - In London there were far higher numbers involved though more scattered for this reason you can’t pen them into a stand and control them and stop them from coming out so they can’t get at each other like you can in footy. There is definately some politics in policing no doubt about it and there are concerns around how they look in the papers, as they’re all too quick to hang them out to dry and put out negative stories. In relation to todays game how would you have dealt with the trouble? Let them crack on with it?
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 14:51:24 GMT
What the hell happened on that day in London not long ago then? Did they have volunteers for the day instead of trained police? Check the videos out of how they dealt with the English march. Your minds clearly set but here’s some pointers - It’s a lot easier to deal with a pre determined event like a football game because you can get the resources available before hand both for those in/outside the ground. They’re more prepared and will have PSU in and would have gathered intelligence. - I might be wrong and you may need to tell me this but by all accounts there were some serious injuries to fans at todays game, whereas I’m not aware of many at the protests where there were many more in attendance which suggests that the level of violence wasn’t as high. If officers are met with high levels of violence I’d imagine they deal with those involved more robustly and if not it’s more about engaging and using community leaders. - In London there were far higher numbers involved though more scattered for this reason you can’t pen them into a stand and control them and stop them from coming out so they can’t get at each other like you can in footy. There is definately some politics in policing no doubt about it and there are concerns around how they look in the papers, as they’re all too quick to hang them out to dry and put out negative stories. In relation to todays game how would you have dealt with the trouble? Let them crack on with it? No you’re right how they dealt with it today. My point is twat those on the Palestine march the same when they are treating the police worse. I’ve seen videos where they are attacking the police with sticks etc and the police just stand there afraid to hit them back or they’ll probably lose their job or whatever reason
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 28, 2024 14:53:03 GMT
Your minds clearly set but here’s some pointers - It’s a lot easier to deal with a pre determined event like a football game because you can get the resources available before hand both for those in/outside the ground. They’re more prepared and will have PSU in and would have gathered intelligence. - I might be wrong and you may need to tell me this but by all accounts there were some serious injuries to fans at todays game, whereas I’m not aware of many at the protests where there were many more in attendance which suggests that the level of violence wasn’t as high. If officers are met with high levels of violence I’d imagine they deal with those involved more robustly and if not it’s more about engaging and using community leaders. - In London there were far higher numbers involved though more scattered for this reason you can’t pen them into a stand and control them and stop them from coming out so they can’t get at each other like you can in footy. There is definately some politics in policing no doubt about it and there are concerns around how they look in the papers, as they’re all too quick to hang them out to dry and put out negative stories. In relation to todays game how would you have dealt with the trouble? Let them crack on with it? No you’re right how they dealt with it today. My point is twat those on the Palestine march the same when they are treating the police worse. I’ve seen videos where they are attacking the police with sticks etc and the police just stand there afraid to hit them back or they’ll probably lose their job or whatever reason Send me some links and I’ll have a look. I can’t comment on them as I haven’t seen them but I’d be interested to.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 28, 2024 15:01:38 GMT
add to it resources too. Footy always has the PSU who are specially trained for public order. What the hell happened on that day in London not long ago then? Did they have volunteers for the day instead of trained police? Check the videos out of how they dealt with the English march. “English March “ ? Which one was that ?
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Post by satoshi on Jan 28, 2024 15:04:54 GMT
We can all agree that we’ve missed this
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jan 28, 2024 15:09:03 GMT
comment on bbc sport website “ this game is live on itv, as is the fifth round draw - just after 2pm and then Liverpool v Norwich So they’re going to need a resolution here soon enough for tv reasons Give Maidstone the bye into the next round to even up the numbers, make West Brom and Wolves pay them the ticket revenue they would have got as a punishment
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jan 28, 2024 15:18:24 GMT
We can all agree that we’ve missed this No we can’t all agree that. It’s fucking pathetic and disgusting, anyone who ‘misses’ that sort of thing is a knob and shouldn’t be near a public event.
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Post by satoshi on Jan 28, 2024 15:22:36 GMT
We can all agree that we’ve missed this No we can’t all agree that. It’s fucking pathetic and disgusting, anyone who ‘misses’ that sort of thing is a knob and shouldn’t be near a public event. 😂
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 28, 2024 15:33:56 GMT
How do we know he was a Baggies fan? My understanding was it all kicked off in the home end with a few Dingles outing themselves following the second goal. It's therefore more likely the injured guy is a Dog Head and it's the Tesco's singing 'let him die'. Not that I care either way. Total knobs the lot of them.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2024 15:35:59 GMT
How do we know he was a Baggies fan? My understanding was it all kicked off in the home end with a few Dingles outing themselves following the second goal. It's therefore more likely the injured guy is a Dog Head and it's the Tesco's singing 'let him die'. Not that I care either way. Total knobs the lot of them. Good question mate but I suspect he might be from the other end where it also kicked off apparently in the usual spot next to the away fans
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 28, 2024 15:39:17 GMT
How do we know he was a Baggies fan? My understanding was it all kicked off in the home end with a few Dingles outing themselves following the second goal. It's therefore more likely the injured guy is a Dog Head and it's the Tesco's singing 'let him die'. Not that I care either way. Total knobs the lot of them. Good question mate but I suspect he might be from the other end where it also kicked off apparently in the usual spot next to the away fans Ah righto mate. I didn't see the game. Just going on the hysterical ITV reaction to it. I suspect they were more pissed that they couldn't do the full wankfest for Klippety
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2024 15:42:59 GMT
Good question mate but I suspect he might be from the other end where it also kicked off apparently in the usual spot next to the away fans Ah righto mate. I didn't see the game. Just going on the hysterical ITV reaction to it. I suspect they were more pissed that they couldn't do the full wankfest for Klippety Just look at these knobs as well🙄
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Post by callas12 on Jan 28, 2024 15:48:51 GMT
How do we know he was a Baggies fan? My understanding was it all kicked off in the home end with a few Dingles outing themselves following the second goal. It's therefore more likely the injured guy is a Dog Head and it's the Tesco's singing 'let him die'. Not that I care either way. Total knobs the lot of them. Good question mate but I suspect he might be from the other end where it also kicked off apparently in the usual spot next to the away fans That's exactly where it happened, the opposite end to the initial trouble. I'm sumising that geezer with a cut head is a Baggie who was causing bother and has been arrested, most likely following a baton strike to the head aswell. He's being led away for first aid clearly but I'd say the policeman with him has him detained as opposed to simply helping him away for help. Looks like the injured bloke could be wearing bracelets to the rear aswell!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 28, 2024 15:52:07 GMT
Ah righto mate. I didn't see the game. Just going on the hysterical ITV reaction to it. I suspect they were more pissed that they couldn't do the full wankfest for Klippety Just look at these knobs as well🙄 What silly arses. Minor point but it's stewards the big lad in the white jumper escapes from. His misfortune is he falls into half a dozen cops with their batons out. Made me laugh that despite being ragged by the stewards and batoned by the rozzers he still came up with his fag intact in his mouth. As they say though 'is it really worth the lengthy ban'?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 15:53:31 GMT
Ah righto mate. I didn't see the game. Just going on the hysterical ITV reaction to it. I suspect they were more pissed that they couldn't do the full wankfest for Klippety Just look at these knobs as well🙄 I guarantee that woman who got on the pitch will be facing more than a three year ban.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2024 15:55:13 GMT
Just look at these knobs as well🙄 I guarantee that woman who got on the pitch will be facing more than a three year ban. Explain🤔
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Post by callas12 on Jan 28, 2024 16:08:37 GMT
How do we know he was a Baggies fan? My understanding was it all kicked off in the home end with a few Dingles outing themselves following the second goal. It's therefore more likely the injured guy is a Dog Head and it's the Tesco's singing 'let him die'. Not that I care either way. Total knobs the lot of them. Good question mate but I suspect he might be from the other end where it also kicked off apparently in the usual spot next to the away fans I've just seen footage of this bald headed guy punching a police officer in the face pitchside and he subsequently gets batoned and arrested. Karma has literally come round and... hit him on the head
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2024 16:12:19 GMT
Good question mate but I suspect he might be from the other end where it also kicked off apparently in the usual spot next to the away fans I've just seen footage of this bald headed guy punching a police officer in the face pitchside and he subsequently gets batoned and arrested. Karma has literally come round and... hit him on the head He’ll be behind bars for a while then
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Post by chad on Jan 28, 2024 16:17:25 GMT
Just a normal Saturday back in the 70s. 🤦♂️
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Post by callas12 on Jan 28, 2024 16:18:27 GMT
I've just seen footage of this bald headed guy punching a police officer in the face pitchside and he subsequently gets batoned and arrested. Karma has literally come round and... hit him on the head He’ll be behind bars for a while then Yeah I'd imagine so. Once he's had his head stiched back up. Explains why the Dingles fans are giving him verbals as he's led passed them, would have all happened on the pitchside just to their righthandside.
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