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Post by bangorstokie on Jan 16, 2024 14:47:45 GMT
Anyone else think it’s time to give Lowe a chance along side Campbell? The hammering of Man City U21s shows he more than capable of scoring goals. Something our current strike force are unable to do.
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Post by senojbor on Jan 16, 2024 14:50:27 GMT
He's certainly a player we should be concentrating on instead of wasting money on the likes of Gayle
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Post by JimmyisGod on Jan 16, 2024 14:53:23 GMT
Nowhere near ready, he needs to go out on loan to a division one team
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 16, 2024 15:20:09 GMT
If he isn’t going to feature, he should go out on loan. The step up into men’s football is hard and takes time. Liam Delap was a prolific goalscorer at academy level. He’s not done much more than Vidigal so far this season.
It’s somewhat telling that despite PL U21s being in the Paint Trophy, none of them have ever won it. The lower leagues present a better standard of football than academies do. If our better talent can’t get into our team, they should be playing as high up the lower leagues as possible (and in a team that need a player like them).
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Post by Afrojack on Jan 16, 2024 15:24:44 GMT
Anyone else think it’s time to give Lowe a chance along side Campbell? The hammering of Man City U21s shows he more than capable of scoring goals. Something our current strike force are unable to do. To add a bit of context, Man City U21’s are not actually very good surprisingly. They are rock bottom in 16th place of Premier League 2 with only 1 win out of 11
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Post by phileetin on Jan 16, 2024 15:31:51 GMT
If he isn’t going to feature, he should go out on loan. The step up into men’s football is hard and takes time. Liam Delap was a prolific goalscorer at academy level. He’s not done much more than Vidigal so far this season. It’s somewhat telling that despite PL U21s being in the Paint Trophy, none of them have ever won it. The lower leagues present a better standard of football than academies do. If our better talent can’t get into our team, they should be playing as high up the lower leagues as possible (and in a team that need a player like them). i think brighton u21's are in the qtr finals so if their 1st team is anything to go by it might be their year ?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 16, 2024 15:32:53 GMT
Anyone else think it’s time to give Lowe a chance along side Campbell? The hammering of Man City U21s shows he more than capable of scoring goals. Something our current strike force are unable to do. To add a bit of context, Man City U21’s are not actually very good surprisingly. They are rock bottom in 16th place of Premier League 2 with only 1 win out of 11 It's not that they aren't very good and more that their U21's team is made up of mainly u17 and u18 boys. We also fielded Campbell and Wilmot in our team last night. Tezgel and Lowe themselves are mere youngsters but going overboard because he's scored in what was effectively an u18's game is a bit daft. Is Tezgel even 18 yet?
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 16, 2024 15:37:06 GMT
I think it's a massive step up from the age range they are in. Imagine say Lowe coming up against, say Vestergard at Leicester, a real unit, it would be men against boys.. I am not saying every player has to be a unit, but most championship CH's would bully the likes of Lowe..for sure they are excellent prospects, but for the here and now, maybe too early.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 16, 2024 15:48:03 GMT
I think Lowe is going to be a decent striker but for me he’s not ready for the step up judging by his performances earlier in the season.I’d personally send him out on loan to either League 1 or 2 and I’d also do the same with Tezgel
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 16, 2024 16:13:19 GMT
I think Lowe is going to be a decent striker but for me he’s not ready for the step up judging by his performances earlier in the season.I’d personally send him out on loan to either League 1 or 2 and I’d also do the same with Tezgel Exactly. Too good for the U/21's but not good enough for the first team (yet). Needs a good league 2 loan til the summer. Wes or Gayle can fill the bench to come on as last 5 time wasters, that's doing Lowe no good at all. Same with Tezgel if he;s fit enough.
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Post by sealion100 on Jan 16, 2024 16:19:49 GMT
If ,and I know it’s a big IF …. We get to the point in the season when we can’t reach the playoffs and also we can’t get relegated ….. then surely that would be the time to blood Lowe Trezgal and Sidibe …..
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 16, 2024 16:22:31 GMT
If he isn’t going to feature, he should go out on loan. The step up into men’s football is hard and takes time. Liam Delap was a prolific goalscorer at academy level. He’s not done much more than Vidigal so far this season. It’s somewhat telling that despite PL U21s being in the Paint Trophy, none of them have ever won it. The lower leagues present a better standard of football than academies do. If our better talent can’t get into our team, they should be playing as high up the lower leagues as possible (and in a team that need a player like them). i think brighton u21's are in the qtr finals so if their 1st team is anything to go by it might be their year ? Last year, Chelsea’s U21s were hammered by Cheltenham in the second round (4:0). Bolton did the same to Man Utd and Everton barely faired better against Lincoln (4:2). No team made it to the quarters. In fact, Chelsea’s U21’s came the closest in 2017/18 (out in the semi). These are the best groups of young players in the country, comprised of talent collectively stolen from smaller academies as often as possible. The vast majority are often found wanting when they go up against men. It’s not that surprising. The USWNT have been hammered by men’s college teams in the past. I doubt it’s because they can’t control the ball as well etc. Sometimes, sheer power differences are very important when those differences are so vast. My point is that if a player is excelling in U21, we should be looking to play them in our first team (you put U18’s in the U21’s for the same reason). If SS cannot give them, say 10 (arbitrary number), games between now and the end of the season, then they should be looking to send them to a club where they can get used to the game. Even if they don’t light up the league at that level yet, it’s the experience that counts. At 18, I wouldn’t be upset if he went into the conference to get that experience (or the league below), just to guarantee him games with a different physical challenge.
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Post by ravey123 on Jan 16, 2024 16:41:07 GMT
Nowhere near ready, he needs to go out on loan to a division one team Agree. When he has come on for the first team the game seems to pass him by. He needs a good half season on loan in Div 1 or Div 2
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Post by Ron on Jan 16, 2024 17:13:27 GMT
He’ll be on a high. Get him in the team.
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Post by jokker on Jan 16, 2024 17:21:35 GMT
I think it's a massive step up from the age range they are in. Imagine say Lowe coming up against, say Vestergard at Leicester, a real unit, it would be men against boys.. I am not saying every player has to be a unit, but most championship CH's would bully the likes of Lowe..for sure they are excellent prospects, but for the here and now, maybe too early. Vestergaard has a lot of weaknesses. I've watched him play for Denmark a lot, so I speak from those experiences: his position play is poor, he's slow, and despite his height, he misses a lot of headers, so it's just a matter of a quick "boy" near to pick up those loose balls, and bingo, goal. But you'd have to pick Lowe for that to happen.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2024 17:48:37 GMT
I’d use him over Gayle.
But I’d use Tezgel over Lowe.
I think a loan for Lowe and using Tezgel is the best plan for this season with the hope both can be used next season.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jan 16, 2024 19:10:54 GMT
I think it's a massive step up from the age range they are in. Imagine say Lowe coming up against, say Vestergard at Leicester, a real unit, it would be men against boys.. I am not saying every player has to be a unit, but most championship CH's would bully the likes of Lowe..for sure they are excellent prospects, but for the here and now, maybe too early. Vestergaard has a lot of weaknesses. I've watched him play for Denmark a lot, so I speak from those experiences: his position play is poor, he's slow, and despite his height, he misses a lot of headers, so it's just a matter of a quick "boy" near to pick up those loose balls, and bingo, goal. But you'd have to pick Lowe for that to happen. Of what I've seen of Lowe "quick" is not one of his attributes.
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Post by i1da on Jan 16, 2024 19:32:54 GMT
How about a novel approach? Leave the decision on who to play and when/how to play them to the man who is paid Millions, has all the right qualifications along with the experience, who spends hours with the players to assess their strengths and weaknesses, and whose success depends on getting it right?
Nah! Probably wouldn't work. Let's put Lowe in our first team as the new goalkeeper and bring him up for corners to add to our goal threat.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2024 19:50:42 GMT
How about a novel approach? Leave the decision on who to play and when/how to play them to the man who is paid Millions, has all the right qualifications along with the experience, who spends hours with the players to assess their strengths and weaknesses, and whose success depends on getting it right? Nah! Probably wouldn't work. Let's put Lowe in our first team as the new goalkeeper and bring him up for corners to add to our goal threat. It’s a football discussion board.
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Post by lordb on Jan 16, 2024 19:57:20 GMT
Vestergaard has a lot of weaknesses. I've watched him play for Denmark a lot, so I speak from those experiences: his position play is poor, he's slow, and despite his height, he misses a lot of headers, so it's just a matter of a quick "boy" near to pick up those loose balls, and bingo, goal. But you'd have to pick Lowe for that to happen. Of what I've seen of Lowe "quick" is not one of his attributes. Quick, not particularly sharp, yes he is
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Post by i1da on Jan 16, 2024 20:03:05 GMT
How about a novel approach? Leave the decision on who to play and when/how to play them to the man who is paid Millions, has all the right qualifications along with the experience, who spends hours with the players to assess their strengths and weaknesses, and whose success depends on getting it right? Nah! Probably wouldn't work. Let's put Lowe in our first team as the new goalkeeper and bring him up for corners to add to our goal threat. It’s a football discussion board. And your point is? .... Am I not allowed to put forward my opinion?
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Post by callas12 on Jan 16, 2024 20:04:45 GMT
I think Lowe is going to be a decent striker but for me he’s not ready for the step up judging by his performances earlier in the season.I’d personally send him out on loan to either League 1 or 2 and I’d also do the same with Tezgel Lowe definitely out on loan somewhere till May would suit him. Going Burton under Paterson wouldnt be a bad shout, local and competitive league & close by to keep tabs on. I get the feeling that they want to keep Tezgel close to hand and under wraps to a degree due to his history of injuries & time it takes for him to recover from those injuries. I guess it's a case of damned if they do and damned if they don't at the moment, but think Lowe would hold his own against a lower calibre of EFL defender more than Tezgel where he's more likely to get roughed up & pick up more injuries again.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 16, 2024 20:07:05 GMT
Anyone else think it’s time to give Lowe a chance along side Campbell? The hammering of Man City U21s shows he more than capable of scoring goals. Something our current strike force are unable to do. To add a bit of context, Man City U21’s are not actually very good surprisingly. They are rock bottom in 16th place of Premier League 2 with only 1 win out of 11 They are actually 26th rock bottom only one league now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2024 20:39:57 GMT
It’s a football discussion board. And your point is? .... Am I not allowed to put forward my opinion? Your opinion is that no one can have opinions. It’s a shit opinion.
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Post by i1da on Jan 16, 2024 22:47:27 GMT
And your point is? .... Am I not allowed to put forward my opinion? Your opinion is that no one can have opinions. It’s a shit opinion. lol, says the person who presumes to tell me what my opinion is. You must be a lovely person to be around.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 16, 2024 23:04:14 GMT
Do Tezgel and Lowe play up front together in the U23s?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 16, 2024 23:04:31 GMT
If we bring another striker in in this window I think he’ll go out on loan.
Somewhere like Blackpool or Northampton would be ideal, see if he can bag a few to get them in the play off spots.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 16, 2024 23:40:55 GMT
I think Lowe is going to be a decent striker but for me he’s not ready for the step up judging by his performances earlier in the season.I’d personally send him out on loan to either League 1 or 2 and I’d also do the same with Tezgel Lowe definitely out on loan somewhere till May would suit him. Going Burton under Paterson wouldnt be a bad shout, local and competitive league & close by to keep tabs on. I get the feeling that they want to keep Tezgel close to hand and under wraps to a degree due to his history of injuries & time it takes for him to recover from those injuries. I guess it's a case of damned if they do and damned if they don't at the moment, but think Lowe would hold his own against a lower calibre of EFL defender more than Tezgel where he's more likely to get roughed up & pick up more injuries again. I buy all that. Thought he looked remarkably mature and competitive when he's come on as a sub for us. But if he's not in with a shout then loan please so he can be ready to take Wesley's spot next year.
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Post by senojbor on Jan 16, 2024 23:42:08 GMT
I'd prefer he was on the bench for the rest of the season.
I feel he's a better and more mobile option than Gayle ans Wesley
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 17, 2024 1:38:04 GMT
I'd prefer he was on the bench for the rest of the season. I feel he's a better and more mobile option than Gayle ans Wesley That's the rub though isn't it? I want to see what he can do when brought on for us, but Schuey hasn't looked like giving him a chance yet. I'd rather he play the best part of 20 league 1 games than sit on a championship bench for 20.
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