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Post by snoogle on Jan 10, 2024 23:12:55 GMT
Growing up in the 90’s when we were shite and they were probably the best they have ever been and ever will be, and going to school in Chell it has to be the great unwashed of Boslem for me…hate them with a passion , would love nothing more than seeing them go out of Business and supermarket built on the site…doesn’t help that their fans are the most deluded bunch of pricks known to man !
I compare vale fans trying to take the piss out of Stoke as like a tramp laughing at you because you dropped your house keys down the grid !
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 10, 2024 23:36:23 GMT
Growing up in the 90’s when we were shite and they were probably the best they have ever been and ever will be, and going to school in Chell it has to be the great unwashed of Boslem for me…hate them with a passion , would love nothing more than seeing them go out of Business and supermarket built on the site…doesn’t help that their fans are the most deluded bunch of pricks known to man ! I compare vale fans trying to take the piss out of Stoke as like a tramp laughing at you because you dropped your house keys down the grid ! Getting so wound up over a lower league side who have little relevance apart from locality might be a reason for them to take the piss to be fair
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Post by Gods on Jan 11, 2024 0:03:21 GMT
My instant reaction is West Brom, Derby, Sheffield United or Wolves although none of them would consider us their #1 rival.
I think Middlesboro are closest to us in terms of club size and success, lack of, but we are way too far away geographically to consider them a rival.
In short no one.
We are no one else's closest rival and so, by definition, we have no one big rival.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 11, 2024 0:09:37 GMT
My instant reaction is West Brom, Derby, Sheffield United or Wolves although none of them would consider us their #1 rival. I think Middlesboro are closest to us in terms of club size and success, lack of, but we are way too far away geographically to consider them a rival. In short no one. We are no one else's closest rival and so, by definition, we have no one big rival. Or Coventry in terms of size although again not a rival. I agree we don't really have a major rival in any sense but will live with it . Really isn't that important. I can never understand why some get so wound up about another club . I know a Leeds fans who seems to get more joy from Man U losing over Leeds winning
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Post by Gods on Jan 11, 2024 0:22:55 GMT
My instant reaction is West Brom, Derby, Sheffield United or Wolves although none of them would consider us their #1 rival. I think Middlesboro are closest to us in terms of club size and success, lack of, but we are way too far away geographically to consider them a rival. In short no one. We are no one else's closest rival and so, by definition, we have no one big rival. Or Coventry in terms of size although again not a rival. I agree we don't really have a major rival in any sense but will live with it . Really isn't that important. I can never understand why some get so wound up about another club . I know a Leeds fans who seems to get more joy from Man U losing over Leeds winning I agree. Having no obvious and uncontested rival is a good place to be.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 11, 2024 0:27:51 GMT
Matches v Vale were big for me growing up. A copper took the cap off my Dr pepper bottle outside Vale Park once, in case I chucked it.
When I picked Stoke for 2010s FIFAs it chose the baggies as the rival.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 11, 2024 0:29:06 GMT
Or Coventry in terms of size although again not a rival. I agree we don't really have a major rival in any sense but will live with it . Really isn't that important. I can never understand why some get so wound up about another club . I know a Leeds fans who seems to get more joy from Man U losing over Leeds winning I agree. Having no obvious and uncontested rival is a good place to be. Doesn't work in every aspect. Tom would be a bit of a rubbish cartoon. Just basically be a cat . Some need a good rival...Kramer V Kramer would never have won as Oscar if just a bloke suing himself for custody of his own kids
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Post by Rose City Potter on Jan 11, 2024 1:03:30 GMT
If we were going to be in the same division as Vale next year what’s the first 2 fixtures you would look for?
Yes matches against the other Midlands teams always have a bit extra. I can’t think of any of them that would rank us as even 3rd as a rival. I don’t see how you can say that it’s a rivalry if the other side doesn’t see you the same or minimum at least as 2nd or 3rd priority.
Vale will always be our biggest rivals no matter what division each club is in. I would rather have them in the same division as us and beat them home and away.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 11, 2024 2:50:05 GMT
I don’t think we have one. For several years, the WBA and Wolves games used to be a bit testy. Now, we are more of a developmental club for Wolves and the West Brom angle kind of died when Pulis retired.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 11, 2024 3:04:25 GMT
Birmingham, Cardiff and Everton in our house.
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Post by tuum on Jan 11, 2024 6:43:22 GMT
No specific rivals. Why can't we just hate everyone? That's how it should be!
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Post by milton58 on Jan 11, 2024 6:52:53 GMT
When we were in the premier league for the first few years everyone hated us and I loved it
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 11, 2024 7:06:43 GMT
Potters-Online……….
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 11, 2024 7:30:39 GMT
Ourselves half the time. Or if you read the EE board boat people. 😉
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Post by wuzza on Jan 11, 2024 7:41:16 GMT
Who needs a single rival ? SCFC is disliked generally including by many of the ‘bigger’ clubs ....... which is nice and proves we did something right back in the day.
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Post by Ron on Jan 11, 2024 7:41:21 GMT
Vale , WBA, Wolves. However- over the years we’ve had some short term hatred with the likes of Stockport and Arsenal to the extent that I’d say the hatred between us and arsenal is really up there post the leg break.
In recent years- the atmosphere at the arsenal games has been something else. Although those times are becoming less and less recent sadly.
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Post by riproaringagain on Jan 11, 2024 7:47:15 GMT
Growing up in the 90’s when we were shite and they were probably the best they have ever been and ever will be, and going to school in Chell it has to be the great unwashed of Boslem for me…hate them with a passion , would love nothing more than seeing them go out of Business and supermarket built on the site…doesn’t help that their fans are the most deluded bunch of pricks known to man ! I compare vale fans trying to take the piss out of Stoke as like a tramp laughing at you because you dropped your house keys down the grid ! Getting so wound up over a lower league side who have little relevance apart from locality might be a reason for them to take the piss to be fair What you have to take in account when we got relagated in 189 -90 I think Vale finished 11th in championship and we had 3 seasons below them
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Post by Gods on Jan 11, 2024 8:10:15 GMT
The trouble is whoever you choose in the end, except for Port Vale, has someone else more local to them who are bigger rivals to them than us.
So the rivalry can never be fully reciprocal. And it's not much of a rivalry at all without reciprocity!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 11, 2024 8:24:01 GMT
Ourselves.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 11, 2024 8:26:42 GMT
Sadly we don't have any.
Those clubs closest to us are poorer than we are by some distance.
Those of a similar level to us but "close" are too far away.
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Post by Eggybread on Jan 11, 2024 8:32:19 GMT
Sadly we don't have any. Those clubs closest to us are poorer than we are by some distance. Those of a similar level to us but "close" are too far away. This is correct and sums it up .We have had different rivalries over the years depending on circumstances and the division we are in.Its swung from Dery to Vale to Stockport to Cardiff to Man U to Brum and so on.Personally I despise Manure.
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Post by snoogle on Jan 11, 2024 8:49:13 GMT
Getting so wound up over a lower league side who have little relevance apart from locality might be a reason for them to take the piss to be fair What you have to take in account when we got relagated in 189 -90 I think Vale finished 11th in championship and we had 3 seasons below them Exactly !! It’s ok looking at it in isolation in the current day , but back then in a school where I was one of just 3 Stoke fans in my year, in a vale area, when they were most definitely the best they have ever been , with very close games between us , it was a very different thing. Our experiences shape us and listening to the unwashed giving it the big un, day in day out for years means I will always hate em, and they will always be our biggest rivals although we never play them (and I would never want to tbh)
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 11, 2024 9:13:27 GMT
Given that true rivalry must be reciprocated, as others have stated we have a deep hatred of many clubs, but they don't really see us as bitter rivals, as they all have more fierce rivalries to get excited about, 4 Brum clubs ( inc Wolves ), mancs, scousers, so it must really be The Vale, but it has been ages since we locked horns.
As far as who do we hate the most that we still play fairly regularly, Brum, Cardiff, Millwall, and for me fucking Sunderland, but as mentioned previously it's not reciprocated...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2024 9:42:09 GMT
Port Vale are our local rivals and always will be as long as both clubs exist.
There will come a time when we are in the same league again and the folk who give enough of a shit about nogger these days will see it as a massive game.
Me, personally, when I was younger and cared enough, I always hated Wolves, Brum and West Brom, and the Vale. These days I don't give anywhere near enough of a shit about football to "hate" any football club or set of fans.
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Post by anchorman on Jan 11, 2024 10:07:28 GMT
Vale , WBA, Wolves. However- over the years we’ve had some short term hatred with the likes of Stockport and Arsenal to the extent that I’d say the hatred between us and arsenal is really up there post the leg break. In recent years- the atmosphere at the arsenal games has been something else. Although those times are becoming less and less recent sadly. For some of us of a certain vintage, the rivalry with Arsenal is certainly not short term. As I celebrate my 61st birthday today it goes back more than 50 years. I’ll never get over how we were cheated out of two FA cup finals in the semi’s v Arsenal.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 11, 2024 10:08:11 GMT
It depends what you call rival. Normally it would mean someone at the same level, with the same aspirations. We have no local rival team in that sense although I always think of Sunderland as a team who we have been at the same level as and competing with and therefore hate to see having more success than us.
Proximity wise it is the Vale but I have always felt the rivalry is greater for Vale fans than Stoke fans who, even when we were in the same league or even below them, seem to look at Vale as their inferior.
Strangely I would say our biggest rivals even now are Arsenal. They are the team we hate with a passion and love to see beaten. I'm sure most Stoke fans enjoyed Liverpool's victory over them even though we also hate Liverpool. I even feel guilty sometimes for enjoying watching the way they play.
Rather weirdly I also think Arsenal fans hate Stoke. They are always derogatively commenting on our demise and match threads on the BBC. I also remember a couple of years ago an, article that asked Premier fans which team they hated most. It was after our relegation and Stoke were in the top three most hated teams for Arsenal fans.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 11, 2024 10:26:15 GMT
The big rivalries are between teams who are the closest to each other who compete in the same league on a regular basis - Newcastle/Sunderland, Spurs/Arsenal, Celtic/Rangers. We don't compete enough with Vale for it to be a proper rivalry. Also the other teams in our vicinity have other clubs they consider to be their primary rivals - Wolves/West Brom, Derby/Forest - so aren't that bothered about us. It has to work both ways for it be a proper rivalry.
Having said that for obvious reasons there is a rivalry between Wolves and Stoke fans in and around Stafford.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 11, 2024 11:03:59 GMT
All the Derby fans I know hate us for allegedly injuring Charlie George which I think they say lost them the title that year.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 11, 2024 11:14:37 GMT
You are kidding yourself if you don't consider vale a rival. How many did we take to an U21 game at their place a few years back? If you thought for a second that a Potteries Derby wouldn't be the scene of carnage should we ever be in the same league or drawn in a cup match your kidding yourself. Much like if you ask Millwall or West Ham.
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Post by stokesupporter on Jan 11, 2024 11:44:29 GMT
Stockport because the Stein incident.
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