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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 29, 2023 22:30:29 GMT
Schumacher saying he was wrong to take Mmaee off was just a more diplomatic way of him saying "Wesley is absolutely shite"
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Dec 29, 2023 22:31:14 GMT
Unpopular opinion but the way we set up today was crackers. Too many unnecessary risks and better teams will destroy us A sobering performance for me. We will lose a lot of games if we play like that....and we will lose big. I like schuey and I wish him all the luck and I will support him to the hilt but I'm just sat lying it as it is. Ridiculous at times.
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Post by coomerson on Dec 29, 2023 22:33:42 GMT
Only watched on the steam but that was an entertaining game. We’d have won if we hadn’t made the subs but I think it was a fair call and shows the new gaffer is thinking positively. He made the subs because he thought we’d win tonight anyway, and still have a good go at Ipswich to win that game as well.
Now he knows what he has in backup and would probably have kept them on to guarantee 3 points out of 6 and wing it on Monday. He called out his mistake with few others do.
Every days a school day.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 29, 2023 22:35:11 GMT
Funny old game Should we have kept on our better players and got 3 points knowing that would leave us at a disadvantage against Ipswich ? If we beat Ipswich obviously not but anything less than 3 points and it does bring some of the substitutions into question Other players coming on though such as Johnson and Baker really let him down badly - they were both utter garbage I think he knows how important it is to improve our home form and with that in mind wants to make sure that his best players are available on Monday. He would have all the data available to him from those monitors they wear and if Burger and Mmaee were at risk of injury of course he is going to take them off regardless of whether it might mean weakening the team. The choice might be without them for 20 minutes or a month.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 29, 2023 22:38:02 GMT
Schumacher saying he was wrong to take Mmaee off was just a more diplomatic way of him saying "Wesley is absolutely shite" Wesley is up there with one of the worse strikers we’ve ever had. The lad is a joke. Sam Vokes offered so much more. Very glad he only got a one year deal.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 29, 2023 22:40:42 GMT
Baker looked like he went straight down the tunnel? If he did it was slowly and unconvincingly… He was horrendous
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Post by ceejays on Dec 29, 2023 22:44:29 GMT
Think people need to give their heads a wobble. Played 3 games in a week and a fourth in ten days on Monday . Not only that but asking them to go high intensity from AN slow approach. Added to that he’s learning about the whole squad before decisions made in the January window. Add all that together and his subs were logical . Or perhaps you guys want to go into the window with him unsure of certain players . Had mmaee stayed on would we have won ? Perhaps but as he says you can’t run him into the ground. Good point
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Post by stokemark on Dec 29, 2023 22:46:23 GMT
Think Schueys approach is to get your nose ahead before the opposition
Obviously they scored first but we did well to not panic and get ourselves back into it.
The substitution's looked like those of a manager who is yet to know what they are capable of and I thought that a number of players looked slow / unfit at times
We really don't have any serious attacking options coming off the bench now and we have to look to address this as soon as possible. If Mmaee goes to the ACON we are in deep shit
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Post by emretezzy on Dec 29, 2023 22:56:05 GMT
Schumacher saying he was wrong to take Mmaee off was just a more diplomatic way of him saying "Wesley is absolutely shite" He wanted Maee play 10 behind Wesley.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 29, 2023 23:12:23 GMT
Think Schueys approach is to get your nose ahead before the opposition Obviously they scored first but we did well to not panic and get ourselves back into it. The substitution's looked like those of a manager who is yet to know what they are capable of and I thought that a number of players looked slow / unfit at times We really don't have any serious attacking options coming off the bench now and we have to look to address this as soon as possible. If Mmaee goes to the ACON we are in deep shit Looks like Mmaee not selected: www.beinsports.com/en-us/soccer/africa-cup-of-nations/articles-video/moroocco-s-afcon-2024-squad-revealed-2023-12-28forwards:%20Hakim%20Ziyech%20(Galatasaray),%20Ismail%20Saibari%20(PSV%20Eindhoven),%20Amine%20Adli%20(Bayer%20Leverkusen),%20Ayoub%20El%20Kaabi%20(Olympiakos),%20Youssef%20En-Nesyri%20(Sevilla),%20Tarik%20Tissoudali%20(KAA%20Gante),%20Amine%20Harit%20(Olympique%20de%20Marsella),%20Abde%20Ezzalzouli%20(Betis),%20and%20Sofiane%20Boufal%20(Al%20Rayyan).
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Post by thicknthin on Dec 29, 2023 23:12:40 GMT
He’ll have learned a lot about his squad tonight. Good opportunity, and a free hit for him really in the end, almost like pre season, he will have learned a lot about his players. Of course we wanted to win, and some of the subs were cack.
Baker was miles off, but I’m sure that’s fitness, Jun ho is a boy and a novice at this level, he will get better and I am genuinely excited to see what he can achieve,. Biggest worry for me was Hoever who was pants and seems to be going backwards fast, almost like without Alex, he’s not bothered
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Post by meirman61 on Dec 29, 2023 23:15:19 GMT
The Coates family just landed back at HQ..
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 29, 2023 23:46:03 GMT
Only one more game left before a transfer window too. If we recruit well in January with physical, quick players there is no reason we can’t finish top 10 and kick on from there. He’s already got us playing like an actual team. It might be risky and we might get a battering or two along the way but we look a threat every time we go forwards.
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Post by ilikelamp on Dec 29, 2023 23:50:39 GMT
Frustrating second half. We seemed to actually shit ourselves when they went down to 10 men and at times it was as if we had 10 and they had 11 they dominated for a bit and had some decent chances themselves. Toothless in attack and it was like we were trying to walk the ball in the net with no one willing to actually hit the ball but keep passing it. But we do already seem a lot better than we were under AN. More intent to win the ball back
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 29, 2023 23:58:29 GMT
Frustrating second half. We seemed to actually shit ourselves when they went down to 10 men and at times it was as if we had 10 and they had 11 they dominated for a bit and had some decent chances themselves. Toothless in attack and it was like we were trying to walk the ball in the net with no one willing to actually hit the ball but keep passing it. But we do already seem a lot better than we were under AN. More intent to win the ball back When it’s 11 v 11, you know there’s a game plan for that and you know when to sit and when to push. I think with Schumacher being new they maybe didn’t quite know how to make it work because you have another spare man which might have an adverse effect overall. If we have Campbell, Leris and even Laurent as the subs there, I think we keep the intensity up. With the 3 we made it killed us a bit.
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Post by xnfourt on Dec 30, 2023 0:17:32 GMT
Sorry..But our whole team are shit.. Need go to zero and start again. Maybe would be better if we went down. Why are players trying to do little flicks..Someone should tell them we aren't Man city
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 30, 2023 0:28:09 GMT
Sorry..But our whole team are shit.. Need go to zero and start again. Maybe would be better if we went down. Why are players trying to do little flicks..Someone should tell them we aren't Man city like the little flick that set Gooch up for his goal against Birmingham for example?
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Post by tuum on Dec 30, 2023 7:41:54 GMT
Sorry..But our whole team are shit.. Need go to zero and start again. Maybe would be better if we went down. Why are players trying to do little flicks..Someone should tell them we aren't Man city like the little flick that set Gooch up for his goal against Birmingham for example? Flicks look great when they come off but the reality is that more often than not they dont work and you just give up possession easily, often in situations where our players are committed in attacking positions. There is a time and a place for using fancy flicks and those situations arise only once or twice in a match. We would be better served focussing on holding the ball up and using our supporting players to switch play or feed runners off the ball.
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 30, 2023 7:55:59 GMT
Another decent performance but lacked composure against ten men. Wesley before Lowe is ridiculous and it is time to give the youngsters a chance. Try Sidibe, Lowe and Tezgel if fit. A well earne point but should have been more against ten men.
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Post by chell_rosey on Dec 30, 2023 8:10:53 GMT
Unpopular opinion but the way we set up today was crackers. Too many unnecessary risks and better teams will destroy us A sobering performance for me. We will lose a lot of games if we play like that....and we will lose big. I like schuey and I wish him all the luck and I will support him to the hilt but I'm just sat lying it as it is. Ridiculous at times. I have to admit, it was an uneasy watch for me too.
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 30, 2023 10:03:10 GMT
If you bring Wesley on you lump the ball up or you play him alongside someone. You don’t keep playing the same way and expect him to offer something. He’s not that kind of player so it’s harsh to criticise him when he’s there to make a nuisance of himself with the long balls into him and we’re not doing that.
Fair play to Schuey for admitting that. Good on him.
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 30, 2023 10:07:36 GMT
Unpopular opinion but the way we set up today was crackers. Too many unnecessary risks and better teams will destroy us A sobering performance for me. We will lose a lot of games if we play like that....and we will lose big. I like schuey and I wish him all the luck and I will support him to the hilt but I'm just sat lying it as it is. Ridiculous at times. I don’t think people realise how good a run Watford are on. That loss to Bristol city has blinded some people. They’re one of the most in form teams in the league and we were more than good against them yesterday 11v11. Shows how our standards have raised when we’re now looking down on Watford.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Dec 30, 2023 11:02:08 GMT
Another decent performance but lacked composure against ten men. Wesley before Lowe is ridiculous and it is time to give the youngsters a chance. Try Sidibe, Lowe and Tezgel if fit. A well earne point but should have been more against ten men. No he needs to see all his senior players in match action before he takes a look at the youngsters. He’ll have learnt a lot from seeing Wesley last night.
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 30, 2023 11:10:03 GMT
Another decent performance but lacked composure against ten men. Wesley before Lowe is ridiculous and it is time to give the youngsters a chance. Try Sidibe, Lowe and Tezgel if fit. A well earne point but should have been more against ten men. No he needs to see all his senior players in match action before he takes a look at the youngsters. He’ll have learnt a lot from seeing Wesley last night. Well isn't that exactly what I've said?
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Post by pavel on Dec 30, 2023 11:19:53 GMT
Unpopular opinion but the way we set up today was crackers. Too many unnecessary risks and better teams will destroy us A sobering performance for me. We will lose a lot of games if we play like that....and we will lose big. I like schuey and I wish him all the luck and I will support him to the hilt but I'm just sat lying it as it is. Ridiculous at times. I don’t think people realise how good a run Watford are on. That loss to Bristol city has blinded some people. They’re one of the most in form teams in the league and we were more than good against them yesterday 11v11. Shows how our standards have raised when we’re now looking down on Watford. Spot on, Watford are 5th in the form table over the last 10 games and 7th over the last 4.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2023 11:26:22 GMT
Think people need to give their heads a wobble. Played 3 games in a week and a fourth in ten days on Monday . Not only that but asking them to go high intensity from AN slow approach. Added to that he’s learning about the whole squad before decisions made in the January window. Add all that together and his subs were logical . Or perhaps you guys want to go into the window with him unsure of certain players . Had mmaee stayed on would we have won ? Perhaps but as he says you can’t run him into the ground. Good point Don't you realise that scoring three in a win at a fantastic team like Birmingham means we should be winning and dominating in every match because we are so much better than the rest of the Championship and the only team prepared to run ourselves into the ground to win?
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Post by ChesterStokie on Dec 30, 2023 11:33:40 GMT
No he needs to see all his senior players in match action before he takes a look at the youngsters. He’ll have learnt a lot from seeing Wesley last night. Well isn't that exactly what I've said? No you said Wesley before Lowe was ridiculous. I said he needed to look at the senior players first i.e. Wesley before Lowe was the correct call.
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 30, 2023 11:38:33 GMT
Well isn't that exactly what I've said? No you said Wesley before Lowe was ridiculous. I said he needed to look at the senior players first i.e. Wesley before Lowe was the correct call. It is ridiculous but I did not say that he should not look at Wesley. I think you are just being pedantic.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Dec 30, 2023 15:20:12 GMT
Unpopular opinion but the way we set up today was crackers. Too many unnecessary risks and better teams will destroy us A sobering performance for me. We will lose a lot of games if we play like that....and we will lose big. I like schuey and I wish him all the luck and I will support him to the hilt but I'm just sat lying it as it is. Ridiculous at times. I don’t think people realise how good a run Watford are on. That loss to Bristol city has blinded some people. They’re one of the most in form teams in the league and we were more than good against them yesterday 11v11. Shows how our standards have raised when we’re now looking down on Watford. Yeah Watford are decent enough. It's just those inverted FBs make my arse twitch. You need serious athletes to pull that off and one if ours was JT....who int an FB.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Dec 30, 2023 22:16:51 GMT
Lots of games - he just need to rotate - don’t panic - he’s The Man to lead us to the promised land with the help of the Coates family
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