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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 19:25:59 GMT
In a long list of dud Stoke centre forwards Mmaee is right there alongside the very dudest. Leris would like to be decent, but he’s just a very poor footballer. I couldn’t think of a worse insult other than to say he would struggle to get into the Vale side. Vidigal I honestly believe has a degree of potential and may yet find it when he mans up a bit. Some sense spoken at last.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 23, 2023 19:26:35 GMT
I really like Mmaee, definitely a player there……
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 19:28:49 GMT
I really like Mmaee, definitely a player there…… Hope you're right mate but think that player is going to be eventually in Spanish second tier..
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Post by questionable on Dec 23, 2023 19:32:51 GMT
I really like Mmaee, definitely a player there…… I honestly don’t see a player as such in our team. Son in law came up from London, first Stoke game ever and when he asked who was our best player/who to look out for my response was “ we don’t have anyone”, although he thought Burger had good spells
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Post by bloodtypered on Dec 23, 2023 19:45:13 GMT
Wish Mmaee would keep on his feet with the ball
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2023 19:48:25 GMT
Until people start realising that Dublins duds are the big problem nothing will change. His signings have been absolutely atrocious. We are where we are because of him and his rubbish. Sack the clown before January. R.Martin's duds. They had to pass his 5 pillars test. And R.Martin is the biggest single winner in the latest changes. It beggars belief.
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 23, 2023 19:52:01 GMT
Until people start realising that Dublins duds are the big problem nothing will change. His signings have been absolutely atrocious. We are where we are because of him and his rubbish. Sack the clown before January. R.Martin's duds. They had to pass his 5 pillars test. And R.Martin is the biggest single winner in the latest changes. It beggars belief. Tricky Ricky needs fucking off. The YouTube video of his 5 pillars of bullshit made me realise what a snake oil salesman he was. Can’t imagine working day in and day out with him! God knows how any manager, including SS, is supposed to succeed with Ricky as their boss.
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2023 20:16:26 GMT
R.Martin's duds. They had to pass his 5 pillars test. And R.Martin is the biggest single winner in the latest changes. It beggars belief. Tricky Ricky needs fucking off. The YouTube video of his 5 pillars of bullshit made me realise what a snake oil salesman he was. Can’t imagine working day in and day out with him! God knows how any manager, including SS, is supposed to succeed with Ricky as their boss. R.Martin has long been my priority sacking, ahead of AN who was more of a nice to have dismissal. And yet instead Martin is now king of all he surveys.
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 23, 2023 20:17:41 GMT
Tricky Ricky needs fucking off. The YouTube video of his 5 pillars of bullshit made me realise what a snake oil salesman he was. Can’t imagine working day in and day out with him! God knows how any manager, including SS, is supposed to succeed with Ricky as their boss. R.Martin has long been my priority sacking, ahead of AN who was more of a nice to have dismissal. And yet instead Martin is now king of all he surveys. Started a separate thread focussing on Ricky. Feel free to comment on there too If it goes south again, he will throw SS under the bus faster than a rat up a drainpipe.
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2023 20:24:10 GMT
R.Martin has long been my priority sacking, ahead of AN who was more of a nice to have dismissal. And yet instead Martin is now king of all he surveys. Started a separate thread focussing on Ricky. Feel free to comment on there too If it goes south again, he will throw SS under the bus faster than a rat up a drainpipe. He's like Rishi Sunak. Wants the credit for inflation coming down but took none of the blame when it went up! Best analogy I can come up with.
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Post by spoton on Dec 23, 2023 20:32:04 GMT
Can you see enough goals in the changing room? Schumacher: Absolutely. But again, you’ve got to get people in the right positions. The eights have got to score more goals, they’ve got to get forward and get into dangerous areas. I thought Ryan Mmaee, by the way, was brilliant. I know he didn't score but his all-round game today was excellent. He led the line for 90 minutes on his own. I think he gave the ball away once, maybe twice in the whole game, and he was a threat all the time and just the shots that he had unfortunately were blocked. If he keeps putting himself in those positions, he'll score the goals that were going to need. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-millwall-live-stream-8993313One word. Deluded,,,I counted at least 10 times he had control of the ball but gave it away either by turning the wrong way or second touch terrible
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 20:40:38 GMT
Started a separate thread focussing on Ricky. Feel free to comment on there too If it goes south again, he will throw SS under the bus faster than a rat up a drainpipe. He's like Rishi Sunak. Wants the credit for inflation coming down but took none of the blame when it went up! Best analogy I can come up with. Yes. That's the problem with this system. God old fashioned Managers who wanted and signed players, developed young players and coached them were masters or victims of their own destiny.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 20:42:17 GMT
Can you see enough goals in the changing room? Schumacher: Absolutely. But again, you’ve got to get people in the right positions. The eights have got to score more goals, they’ve got to get forward and get into dangerous areas. I thought Ryan Mmaee, by the way, was brilliant. I know he didn't score but his all-round game today was excellent. He led the line for 90 minutes on his own. I think he gave the ball away once, maybe twice in the whole game, and he was a threat all the time and just the shots that he had unfortunately were blocked. If he keeps putting himself in those positions, he'll score the goals that were going to need. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-millwall-live-stream-8993313One word. Deluded,,,I counted at least 10 times he had control of the ball but gave it away either by turning the wrong way or second touch terrible If SS thought Mmaee was brilliant I fucking give up.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 23, 2023 20:47:15 GMT
Out of the 3 up front today, Mmaee is the least of our problems. Second half he showed if you get people around him he can get into good positions to score and will do.
Leris is garbage, pure and simple.
Vidigal isn't much better.
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Dec 23, 2023 20:50:09 GMT
Vidigal we could unload in January for a profit.
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 23, 2023 20:50:26 GMT
Can you see enough goals in the changing room? Schumacher: Absolutely. But again, you’ve got to get people in the right positions. The eights have got to score more goals, they’ve got to get forward and get into dangerous areas. I thought Ryan Mmaee, by the way, was brilliant. I know he didn't score but his all-round game today was excellent. He led the line for 90 minutes on his own. I think he gave the ball away once, maybe twice in the whole game, and he was a threat all the time and just the shots that he had unfortunately were blocked. If he keeps putting himself in those positions, he'll score the goals that were going to need. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-millwall-live-stream-8993313One word. Deluded,,,I counted at least 10 times he had control of the ball but gave it away either by turning the wrong way or second touch terrible He’s a manager and a coach. He’s got to say shit publicly all the time he doesn’t really think. No good him being negative openly as he loses the dressing room instantly if he immediately starts shitting on the players. Being publicly supportive is the only was Mmaee improves too. He knows they don’t have the funds to sign several new CFs in Jan. So he has to publicly support the players and gaslight both them and the fans with fake positivity until he gets as many of his own players in as possible. Basic people management stuff.
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Post by LankyPotter on Dec 23, 2023 20:58:18 GMT
Until people start realising that Dublins duds are the big problem nothing will change. His signings have been absolutely atrocious. We are where we are because of him and his rubbish. Sack the clown before January. Both Mmaee and Vidigal are good, technically sound football players - it comes down to how they are asked/needed to play. Mmaee needs to play off someone, back to goal is not his strength. Vidigal is better suited to coming inside and linking up to get into goalscoring positions but we don’t really help him with that. Give him a fullback that overlaps and he will be more productive. Must say, I do think that we are lacking an out and out winger, but there we go.
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Post by spoton on Dec 23, 2023 21:08:33 GMT
One word. Deluded,,,I counted at least 10 times he had control of the ball but gave it away either by turning the wrong way or second touch terrible He’s a manager and a coach. He’s got to say shit publicly all the time he doesn’t really think. No good him being negative openly as he loses the dressing room instantly if he immediately starts shitting on the players. Being publicly supportive is the only was Mmaee improves too. He knows they don’t have the funds to sign several new CFs in Jan. So he was to publicly support the players and gaslight both them and the fans with fake positivity until he gets as many of his own players in as possible. Basic people management stuff. Not asking for him to shit on his players, but if he wants to comment on a individual player then talk the truth,Mmaee was overall poor again,,if he can't tell the truth then keep quiet because he looks a idiot of a manager again to come out with crap
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Post by franklin on Dec 23, 2023 21:27:01 GMT
He’s a manager and a coach. He’s got to say shit publicly all the time he doesn’t really think. No good him being negative openly as he loses the dressing room instantly if he immediately starts shitting on the players. Being publicly supportive is the only was Mmaee improves too. He knows they don’t have the funds to sign several new CFs in Jan. So he was to publicly support the players and gaslight both them and the fans with fake positivity until he gets as many of his own players in as possible. Basic people management stuff. Not asking for him to shit on his players, but if he wants to comment on a individual player then talk the truth,Mmaee was overall poor again,,if he can't tell the truth then keep quiet because he looks a idiot of a manager again to come out with crap I think he's now realises he's got a weak as piss player mentally and physically (and again so are the others) and unfortunately he's trying to give him some confidence when the fans know he's talking BS.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 23, 2023 22:13:12 GMT
Until people start realising that Dublins duds are the big problem nothing will change. His signings have been absolutely atrocious. We are where we are because of him and his rubbish. Sack the clown before January. Both Mmaee and Vidigal are good, technically sound football players - it comes down to how they are asked/needed to play. Mmaee needs to play off someone, back to goal is not his strength. Vidigal is better suited to coming inside and linking up to get into goalscoring positions but we don’t really help him with that. Give him a fullback that overlaps and he will be more productive. Must say, I do think that we are lacking an out and out winger, but there we go. I agree with the last point. When we started to dominate we lacked the ability to really stretch them, we were trying to get everything through the middle where it was clogged up. No natural wide player.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 23, 2023 22:13:46 GMT
Both wank
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 23, 2023 22:25:39 GMT
No one gets anywhere near him. What the fuck is he meant to do? Hold the ball up better, not get knocked off the ball as easily, not dither when he actually gets the ball so much that we lose momentum, not fall over all the time acting like a fanny, not always get annoyed when he realises the game here is far too physical for him. But apart from that not much he can do is there. He won numerous free kicks today by holding the ball.
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Post by Timmy on Dec 23, 2023 22:30:27 GMT
Maaee was good today, totally isolated first half with no one around him to play off. Vidigal was ok too, we're far too quick to write players off calling them shit. First 5 games of the season everyone was saying how a PL team will come in with a big bid in January, soon quick to change minds. Proper bi-polar support!!
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 23, 2023 22:37:32 GMT
I really like Mmaee, definitely a player there…… What do you like about him mate? I can’t see much there at the moment.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Dec 23, 2023 22:42:03 GMT
Vidigal cost us 450k Maee cost 1.7m
These aren’t 5-10m players so people should keep their expectations in context.
They are both good squad players for the money paid . Vidigal could really do with a proper left back behind him to support and over lap and build combos.
Mmaee is decent running forward with the ball but again needs decent movement from supporting players. He’s a good option to have in the squad but we shouldn’t be completely relying on him for 90 minutes every match. Unfortunately Wesley is finished and Campbell always injured. That’s not Maee’s fault. He wins countless fouls when he goes down cheaply.
Honestly some of our fans are so negative. For the amount we have paid for these two, they are decent additions. I’d suggest trying to give them a bit of support and encouragement rather than just slating them.
Luckily our manager seems to see the value in Mmaee. We just need to another decent option. To provide competition and allow us to mix it up a bit.
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Post by redstriper on Dec 23, 2023 22:43:09 GMT
short memories if people think Mmaee is up there in any striker dud list. Ten times the skill and mobility of Pericard, ten times the effort of K.Jones.... to name but two...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 23, 2023 22:54:18 GMT
I really like Mmaee, definitely a player there…… What do you like about him mate? I can’t see much there at the moment. He's got quick feet, makes some really good runs and on occasions shows he can hold the ball up when it come into feet. Needs players around him though, every time the ball went into him today there were 2 or 3 Millwall defenders crowding him out. My biggest criticism would be he doesn't get his shots off quick enough, sit him down and show him videos of the master of it Mark Stein. The forward line we have is screaming out for a 4-2-3-1 with Bae behind Mmaee (until reinforcements in January at least)
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 23, 2023 23:01:40 GMT
Vidigal cost us 450k Maee cost 1.7m These aren’t 5-10m players so people should keep their expectations in context. They are both good squad players for the money paid . Vidigal could really do with a proper left back behind him to support and over lap and build combos. Mmaee is decent running forward with the ball but again needs decent movement from supporting players. He’s a good option to have in the squad but we shouldn’t be completely relying on him for 90 minutes every match. Unfortunately Wesley is finished and Campbell always injured. That’s not Maee’s fault. He wins countless fouls when he goes down cheaply. Honestly some of our fans are so negative. For the amount we have paid for these two, they are decent additions. I’d suggest trying to give them a bit of support and encouragement rather than just slating them. Luckily our manager seems to see the value in Mmaee. We just need to another decent option. To provide competition and allow us to mix it up a bit. I don't see the idea of sending them out on loan as a negative comment at all. I think it's a positive suggestion to get them used to playing against the type of opposition you get at this level. They could be both really useful players but seem to be finding it a challenge to adapt. They both obviously are used to having a lot more time and space on the ball and they need to get used to the kind of marking they are experiencing. We've simply got to bring something better in January in the attacking department. It's a question of whether the team has got the luxury of them learning to adapt while we are struggling near the foot of the table. They need to learn fast. I thought the times when they went to down faking injuries, writhing around when we were in good attacking positions was almost unforgivable. Really poor effort from both. Ive very nearly written off Leris though. Not seen anything there. Very poor today. Struggling for positives with him tbh.
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Post by Timmy on Dec 23, 2023 23:09:36 GMT
Check the sky sports highlights out of the game and tell me that mmaee is shit. One of our better players today, always a threat! Looks like our fans always have to have someone to blame: Player, manager, transfer team, Ricky Martin, board etc etc. If we got everything right 100% of the time then we'd be up there with man city 😂
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 23, 2023 23:10:14 GMT
Vidigal cost us 450k Maee cost 1.7m These aren’t 5-10m players so people should keep their expectations in context. They are both good squad players for the money paid . Vidigal could really do with a proper left back behind him to support and over lap and build combos. Mmaee is decent running forward with the ball but again needs decent movement from supporting players. He’s a good option to have in the squad but we shouldn’t be completely relying on him for 90 minutes every match. Unfortunately Wesley is finished and Campbell always injured. That’s not Maee’s fault. He wins countless fouls when he goes down cheaply. Honestly some of our fans are so negative. For the amount we have paid for these two, they are decent additions. I’d suggest trying to give them a bit of support and encouragement rather than just slating them. Luckily our manager seems to see the value in Mmaee. We just need to another decent option. To provide competition and allow us to mix it up a bit. decent isn't good enough though. Scoring 4-5 goals a season isn't good enough. Spend a bit more, get better players
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