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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 28, 2023 15:03:06 GMT
If we were 1-0 down with 5 mins to play,all our subs used bar 1,we go down to 10 men because of injury,I still wouldn't bring him on.
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Post by senojbor on Nov 28, 2023 15:03:08 GMT
It's really hugely worrying that he's still getting picked Confirms to me that our manager doesn't know what the f**k he's doing.
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Post by theoptimist on Nov 28, 2023 15:04:31 GMT
And as for keeping him around because of his alleged skills in the dressing room - WTF? Whatever he’s doing in the dressing room sure ain't translating into anything worthwhile on the actual pitch. Hey, we’ve got this fucking brilliant dressing room. Everyone’s the bestest of mates. We just can’t defend or score goals!! He must be one of Ricky's "cultural architects"
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Post by march4 on Nov 29, 2023 20:24:23 GMT
In the previous 4 games, while Gayle was on the pitch, we conceded 1 goal.
Since he went off against Blackburn, we've conceded 6 goals.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 20:44:47 GMT
In the previous 4 games, while Gayle was on the pitch, we conceded 1 goal. Since he went off against Blackburn, we've conceded 6 goals. We’ve also scored two, for balance. Which, given he’s a striker, feels more relevant.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 30, 2023 11:43:33 GMT
In the previous 4 games, while Gayle was on the pitch, we conceded 1 goal. Since he went off against Blackburn, we've conceded 6 goals. That argument after conceding 2 goals when chasing the game against Blackburn, and 4 goals v QPR, 3 of which came when we had 10 men and the other was a penalty after Gayle started 3 games in which we mustered a grand total of 5 shots on target may just be the most deranged defence of him yet, congratulations.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 30, 2023 14:45:50 GMT
It's really hugely worrying that he's still getting picked Confirms to me that our manager doesn't know what the f**k he's doing. We have all seen plenty of evidence of Gayle's inability to score but his omission has given a glimpse of why he continued to get picked. Mmaee scored a very welcome goal but has shown little in terms of holding the ball and is ineffective in deploying the press, Wesley is the same.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:22:51 GMT
I'm starting to think that March is the account the club issue to the manager to use on here.
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Post by fraybentos on Jan 1, 2024 19:01:56 GMT
Looked like he had a great chance late on to sneak a win.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 1, 2024 19:05:33 GMT
Looked like he had a great chance late on to sneak a win. Absolutely he did - he just needed to get something, anything on it. Mmaee would have scored it. Gayle is done. He offers absolutely zero for me.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Jan 1, 2024 19:07:00 GMT
Looked like he had a great chance late on to sneak a win. Absolutely he did - he just needed to get something, anything on it. Mmaee would have scored it. Gayle is done. He offers absolutely zero for me. Was an absolutely woeful attempt.
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Post by lordb on Jan 1, 2024 19:08:13 GMT
Looked like he had a great chance late on to sneak a win. Nah, a half chance but obviously he fluffed it He won a header and two free kicks though
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Post by chad on Jan 1, 2024 19:08:39 GMT
It’s ridiculous that he’s getting minutes on the pitch instead of Lowe
They guy was finished before we bought him we should just pay him up
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 1, 2024 19:09:23 GMT
Let's not assume that another striker would have drifted into that position between the centre backs . Was something that made him the striker he was
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 1, 2024 19:09:26 GMT
Absolutely he did - he just needed to get something, anything on it. Mmaee would have scored it. Gayle is done. He offers absolutely zero for me. Was an absolutely woeful attempt. Not even sure there was an attempt mate, there looked to be an involuntary body spasm as his brain went ‘head, shoulder, knees or toes?!?’.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 1, 2024 19:11:02 GMT
Looked like he had a great chance late on to sneak a win. Absolutely he did - he just needed to get something, anything on it. Mmaee would have scored it. Gayle is done. He offers absolutely zero for me. Offers nothing now, will offer nothing tomorrow. Would be good to see more opportunities for Lowe and Tezgel.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 1, 2024 19:13:33 GMT
Not sure what the point of playing Lowe is. Tezgel should be on the bench instead.
Gayle has been a ridiculously disappointing signing and a great example of how we used to do business.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 1, 2024 19:16:33 GMT
Not sure what the point of playing Lowe is. Tezgel should be on the bench instead. Gayle has been a ridiculously disappointing signing and a great example of how we used to do business. Yep, he was the subject of a relentless club stiffy for years, we were obviously going to sign him regardless at some point. Hopefully we have a new mindset with the new coach.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 1, 2024 19:20:28 GMT
Looked like he had a great chance late on to sneak a win. About as an embarrassing miss as I’ve ever seen. He could have tripped over and scored it. Never mind going at it with his wrong foot, then completely air kicking. He could have simply lent forward and let it hit im him and it’s a goal.
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 1, 2024 19:22:08 GMT
Absolutely he did - he just needed to get something, anything on it. Mmaee would have scored it. Gayle is done. He offers absolutely zero for me. Offers nothing now, will offer nothing tomorrow. Would be good to see more opportunities for Lowe and Tezgel. Must admit, I was all for giving him a run of games few weeks ago. It does seem though after his short run in the side and subsequent substitute appearances that he a an unmitigated busted flush that needs putting out to grass for the remaining length of his contract. Give him the Vale for 4 months FOC.
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Post by stokest5 on Jan 1, 2024 19:25:50 GMT
I wouldn’t bet on him scoring if he was the only player on the pitch!
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 1, 2024 19:26:47 GMT
Not sure what the point of playing Lowe is. Tezgel should be on the bench instead. Gayle has been a ridiculously disappointing signing and a great example of how we used to do business. Yep, he was the subject of a relentless club stiffy for years, we were obviously going to sign him regardless at some point. Hopefully we have a new mindset with the new coach. What I think is really interesting with Gayle is that he misses sitters every time he’s on. His movement to get away from the defender was great. He gets a free 1 on 1, albeit from a ball he hasn’t got control of, and he fluffs it. He needs a shrink (or a voodoo priest). However, he’ll likely just retire. It’s honestly impressive how he gets himself into better positions than any of our forward lineup yet is still least likely to score.
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Post by DC1863 on Jan 1, 2024 19:33:14 GMT
It seems like Gayle is a good presence in the dressing room and nobody can accuse him of not putting the effort in or grafting, he presses rather well in fact.
But it's glaringly obvious he has completely lost his strikers instinct. It might seem a harsh statement but in terms of goalscoring I think he may be the worst striker we've ever had.
Berahino at least scored a few, Souleymane Oulare bagged a couple off his arse, hell even Kitson scored a few in his brief time here.
In terms of goals to appearances ratio he must be the most ineffective?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 1, 2024 19:36:55 GMT
He really should be sitting next to Porkpie in Desmond’s. The way he hobbled off the pitch earlier after barely 15 minutes was a sight for sore eyes
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Post by superpotter on Jan 1, 2024 19:37:14 GMT
He’s absolutely shit and my enthusiasm for the game hits rock bottom when he hobbles onto the pitch , it’s embarrassing and our new manager should see it . He’s had his day , it’s now over for him .
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jan 1, 2024 23:26:26 GMT
The issue today was not so much the quality of the chance (I would say it was a half-chance at best) it was more the quality of the attempt to convert the chance - his body shape when the ball came in was that of a man who had no fucking idea where the ball was.
He seems to have at least one or two moments in a game where he has no idea where the ball is - it almost of if he has something akin to the 'yips'.
I have a theory (without any supporting evidence) that he must have something in his contract that is forcing managers to either a) put him in the squad if fit and b) bring him on at some point. I can't see any other reason why successive managers would think he is the solution to any problem we have.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jan 1, 2024 23:37:16 GMT
The issue today was not so much the quality of the chance (I would say it was a half-chance at best) it was more the quality of the attempt to convert the chance - his body shape when the ball came in was that of a man who had no fucking idea where the ball was. He seems to have at least one or two moments in a game where he has no idea where the ball is - it almost of if he has something akin to the 'yips'. I have a theory (without any supporting evidence) that he must have something in his contract that is forcing managers to either a) put him in the squad if fit and b) bring him on at some point. I can't see any other reason why successive managers would think he is the solution to any problem we have. He has a lot of experience, that's why he plays. Today when we had 10 men we needed experience to get at least a point. I expect he will be moved on soon enough. He's a capable striker he just doesn't do it for us, the movement and positioning is there but his timing has gone.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 1, 2024 23:50:56 GMT
Not sure what the point of playing Lowe is. Tezgel should be on the bench instead. Gayle has been a ridiculously disappointing signing and a great example of how we used to do business. Tezgel must be way off the pace after a long injury. Hasn't he only played 1 u-18s game since he's been out?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2024 23:53:08 GMT
Not sure what the point of playing Lowe is. Tezgel should be on the bench instead. Gayle has been a ridiculously disappointing signing and a great example of how we used to do business. Tezgel must be way off the pace after a long injury. Hasn't he only played 1 u-18s game since he's been out? He’s played more than that. But not much. He was with the squad at Watford so is in and around so that’s good. I think they’re being very sensible with him tbh. But I really hope he gets some good game time and stays fit in the second half of the season.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 2, 2024 0:01:40 GMT
It seems like Gayle is a good presence in the dressing room and nobody can accuse him of not putting the effort in or grafting, he presses rather well in fact. But it's glaringly obvious he has completely lost his strikers instinct. It might seem a harsh statement but in terms of goalscoring I think he may be the worst striker we've ever had. Berahino at least scored a few, Souleymane Oulare bagged a couple off his arse, hell even Kitson scored a few in his brief time here. In terms of goals to appearances ratio he must be the most ineffective? In all fairness, DG has also scored off his arse. However, take off the Sunderland away match, he certainly is the most inept.
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