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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 25, 2023 19:13:54 GMT
I think that's proving to be the case. That was true for a long time. Brown never got the credit he deserved and got way too much stick on here. I like him and he got too much shit for me but let's not forget all the times he clumsily lost the ball or got knocked off it too easily. Mmae, Vidigal and Haks all have potential.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Nov 25, 2023 19:53:26 GMT
Again, I am somewhat baffled by Gayle's inclusion today.
He offered absolutely nothing and it was no surprise to see him substituted just after half time.
3 goals in 50-odd appearances.
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Post by idle on Nov 25, 2023 20:33:19 GMT
Even staying onside would be a start….. Any striker would be on a hiding to nothing in the shambles of a team Our goals scored column shows that. Absolutely no creativity. Struggling to remember the last time I saw a performance as bad as Pearson today WTF? You'd moan at the creativity of peak Makelele. It's not Pearsons job to be creative, he's not fucking Pirlo!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 21:36:51 GMT
His career here has been laughably bad. I didn’t think he’d be the 20 goal a season guy (everyone ends up cursed here) but I didn’t foresee it going as badly as it has done. Love MON but this was his biggest cock up by far. Gayle’s goal compilation last season was like a comedy sketch, and his goals per minute ratio at the club is ludicrous. Isn’t a stretch to say he’s the worst striker we’ve had since relegation and quite possibly the worst since the days of the ill-fated Guidetti loan.
Why he’s playing ahead of Lowe at all this season is beyond me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 22:18:53 GMT
As mentioned above 3 goals in 50 games !
We are not going anywhere , except relegated , with a centre forward hitting 3 goals every 50 games .
Nobody , ever , is promoted with a centre forward scoring 3 in 50
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 25, 2023 22:44:15 GMT
As mentioned above 3 goals in 50 games ! We are not going anywhere , except relegated , with a centre forward hitting 3 goals every 50 games . Nobody , ever , is promoted with a centre forward scoring 3 in 50 Sidibe got 4 in 37 when we got promoted, Gayle makes him look prolific. It’s not just his lack of goals, if he was contributing in other ways you could live with it to a point. But he can’t press, can’t hold the ball up, can’t head it, doesn’t even get into a position to score and is constantly offside. Brings nothing to the party……..
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Post by RF10 on Nov 26, 2023 0:05:47 GMT
Gayle was summed up when he got flagged offside when coming into our own half. I don't like hammering player but he really isn't good enough for this level and hasn't been for quite some time.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 26, 2023 6:28:36 GMT
We all know what's going to happen with Gayle. With his reputation now destroyed by his time with Stoke he'll be picked up really cheap by a smaller Championship club with little to lose or a League One side. And with him free from the toxic environment at Stoke that seems to drag everybody down, especially strikers, and free from whatever mental block he seems to have, he'll re-find his mojo and have a decent season and score 15 odd goals. While we'll be floundering yet again with whatever poor sod we sign in the summer to replace him.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 26, 2023 6:46:07 GMT
He is finished, one of the worst strikers to ever play for Stoke. That really says a lot because there has certainly been a few! Anyway, he just makes a living and he doesn't pick the team, Neil does and needs to take the blame!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 26, 2023 7:33:00 GMT
We all know what's going to happen with Gayle. With his reputation now destroyed by his time with Stoke he'll be picked up really cheap by a smaller Championship club with little to lose or a League One side. And with him free from the toxic environment at Stoke that seems to drag everybody down, especially strikers, and free from whatever mental block he seems to have, he'll re-find his mojo and have a decent season and score 15 odd goals. While we'll be floundering yet again with whatever poor sod we sign in the summer to replace him. Remember Sam Vokes? …..8 goals in 78 championship appearances for Stoke. Moves to Wycombe hey presto 26 goals in 84 league games. You can rest your case Sam.
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Post by onionman on Nov 26, 2023 7:37:35 GMT
We all know what's going to happen with Gayle. With his reputation now destroyed by his time with Stoke he'll be picked up really cheap by a smaller Championship club with little to lose or a League One side. And with him free from the toxic environment at Stoke that seems to drag everybody down, especially strikers, and free from whatever mental block he seems to have, he'll re-find his mojo and have a decent season and score 15 odd goals. While we'll be floundering yet again with whatever poor sod we sign in the summer to replace him. No. He’s shite.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 26, 2023 7:52:55 GMT
I would give Lowe or Tezgel a chance. Young players have succeeded at even a top level elswhere, I understand about loaning them out for experience and development but that can also be a risk.
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Post by caine on Nov 26, 2023 8:54:52 GMT
Do any of us know if his has an appearance clause in his contract? Not forgetting newcastle are paying most his wage so maybe included it. Just a thought…
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 26, 2023 8:59:24 GMT
Do any of us know if his has an appearance clause in his contract? Not forgetting newcastle are paying most his wage so maybe included it. Just a thought… If so it's criminal! Why should we start every game with 10 players!? Every time I see his name on the team sheet I feel deflated as I know we will hardly create anything and will be lucky to get anything from the game. Neil not able to see this says a lot about him too in my opinion. Anybody but Gayle I say, ANYBODY!
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Post by Roy Cropper on Nov 26, 2023 9:11:32 GMT
The decision to start that front three today was baffling when were struggling to score goals. Especially against a back 5. I don't know what they expected out of Gayle?
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Post by milky on Nov 26, 2023 10:13:29 GMT
He has been picking Gayle because he is allegedly good at defending from the front. He admitted so much !He doesn't give a shit about him scoring, that would be a bonus .
I can't bring myself to dislike Gayle ,he does his best but whatever he had is gone forever ,that much is clear.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 26, 2023 14:25:40 GMT
Do any of us know if his has an appearance clause in his contract? Not forgetting newcastle are paying most his wage so maybe included it. Just a thought… Why does this nonsense still reappear? No player, well certainly not at the level we operate, has an appearance clause in a contract to mean they have to play irrespective of form.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 26, 2023 14:41:01 GMT
Do any of us know if his has an appearance clause in his contract? Not forgetting newcastle are paying most his wage so maybe included it. Just a thought… Why does this nonsense still reappear? No player, well certainly not at the level we operate, has an appearance clause in a contract to mean they have to play irrespective of form. In Gayle’s case it’s nothing at all to do with form. Player form suggests that he/she could be going through a bad patch or maybe carrying a knock or perhaps being played out of position making him less effective. Rectifying these problems would suggest the individual could play better. Problem with Gayle is that he’s so far over-the-hill and way way past his sell by date he can’t possibly Improve. I just look forward to the day when he gets out of my club forever. The man’s a complete fraud and so is the manager for picking him.
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Post by bobdebilde on Nov 27, 2023 16:53:24 GMT
Incredible stat from stoke official site, Gayle has started 11 games this season and had a total of 6 shots.
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 27, 2023 17:00:29 GMT
Incredible stat from stoke official site, Gayle has started 11 games this season and had a total of 6 shots. There’s not a chance he’s started 11 games this season surely, he’s only started the last few games hasn’t he?
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Post by bobdebilde on Nov 27, 2023 18:17:34 GMT
maybe theyve got it the wrong way round, 6 games 11 shots, still pretty shit.
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Post by fazza90 on Nov 28, 2023 9:37:22 GMT
Gayle should be nowhere near a starting 11 in the Championship & can't offer much of an impact from the bench. He might be a great influence around the squad & changing room but based on his performances on the pitch he should be one of the last choices up front. He should certainly be behind Big Wes, Mmaee, Campbell, Lowe, Tezgel, Vidigal & honestly I'd rather try something left field like try Leris up front.
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Post by chad on Nov 28, 2023 11:37:16 GMT
He can’t be playing tonight. Surely he can’t
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Post by marwood on Nov 28, 2023 11:53:21 GMT
We all know what's going to happen with Gayle. With his reputation now destroyed by his time with Stoke he'll be picked up really cheap by a smaller Championship club with little to lose or a League One side. And with him free from the toxic environment at Stoke that seems to drag everybody down, especially strikers, and free from whatever mental block he seems to have, he'll re-find his mojo and have a decent season and score 15 odd goals. While we'll be floundering yet again with whatever poor sod we sign in the summer to replace him. Henceforth known as "The Stoke City Sam Vokes-Career Curve Progression Model"
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Post by marwood on Nov 28, 2023 11:54:31 GMT
He can’t be playing tonight. Surely he can’t Huge fan of the person and respect his career. If McGollum shares one iota of either sentiment, he will bench him tonight
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Post by nott1 on Nov 28, 2023 12:35:12 GMT
Incredible stat from stoke official site, Gayle has started 11 games this season and had a total of 6 shots. No wonder he never scores!
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Post by Block 26 on Nov 28, 2023 13:27:10 GMT
Must admit that I’m now finding it hard to defend him.
But he is still underrated imo. He makes a lot of runs which are constantly ignored because the manager has drilled this negative (must pass backwards or sideways) into the squad, Hence why he’s caught offside a lot. He is good on the press & also very good in his build up play.
I mean if you would prefer to see Wesley up top whom gives away a free kick at every opportunity then so be it.
If he leaves at the end of the season he will end up at another championship side near the bottom of the league eg Rotherham, Huddersfield. Mark my words he will score goals for them.
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Post by etebojan on Nov 28, 2023 14:19:22 GMT
He’s not intelligent. That nonsense needs to end. He’s been an utter disaster for us. You could be part of footballing Mensa, but it doesn't mean much if you've lost all your pace and your bodys not doing what it used to
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Post by Sfance on Nov 28, 2023 14:54:35 GMT
Who would ever have guessed we would be better off with the Wardrobe than this hopeless excuse for a footballer.
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Post by Sfance on Nov 28, 2023 14:58:11 GMT
And as for keeping him around because of his alleged skills in the dressing room - WTF? Whatever he’s doing in the dressing room sure ain't translating into anything worthwhile on the actual pitch. Hey, we’ve got this fucking brilliant dressing room. Everyone’s the bestest of mates. We just can’t defend or score goals!!
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