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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 11, 2023 18:03:22 GMT
What is more important?
Would it have been better to have won one of the last 2 games and lost one meaning we would have had more points
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draw both (as we have) gain less points but maintain an unbeaten run?
Let's be honest, the last 2 games have been awful and we could quite easily have lost both but if you can't win a game don't lose it I suppose.
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 11, 2023 18:07:25 GMT
You want the most points as possible throughout the season. That typically means winning as many games as possible.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 11, 2023 18:08:36 GMT
No brainer.
One win, one loss = 3 points
Two draws = 2 points
Only thing you play for in this league is points so why would you be more happy with a point less? 🤷♂️
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Post by satoshi on Nov 11, 2023 18:09:42 GMT
Wins but………….
We were losing these games by the odd goal all too recently, so it’s definitely progress.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 11, 2023 18:11:28 GMT
No brainer. One win, one loss = 3 points Two draws = 2 points Only thing you play for in this league is points so why would you be more happy with a point less? 🤷♂️ That's why I was asking... You can gain a lot from remaining unbeaten though. Confidence and momentum being the main 2. 1 loss could break the confidence that players should be building, the manager changes things and starts chopping and you could go on to lose another 3 on the bounce. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 11, 2023 18:14:40 GMT
That's one hell of a question Webby  |
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Post by thicknthin on Nov 11, 2023 18:15:36 GMT
Mathematically win on lose one
An unbeaten run however should bring, belief and Confidence. So progression and in the long run hopefully the unbeaten run will give the club these things and more points will follow.
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Post by clarkeda on Nov 11, 2023 18:18:16 GMT
Unbeaten as if you Win most home games, draw most away games and you’ll go up.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 11, 2023 18:18:19 GMT
That's one hell of a question Webby Amazing what you think about in the shower 😂 |
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Post by thornestein on Nov 12, 2023 16:19:36 GMT
That's one hell of a question Webby is it ? , simple answer really , win bith drawn games 😁🤣😂 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 12, 2023 16:40:45 GMT
In a 46 game season if you draw all of them you get 46 points, relegation material. If you win 23 and lose 23 that’s (gets fingers out) 69 points and potential playoffs.
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Post by baconburger on Nov 12, 2023 19:28:58 GMT
Wins and goals scored. Can’t be doing with all this jizzing over clean sheets. Our scoring record is pretty horrendous we’ve failed to score in 9 out of 19 competitive games this season so far. Has a team ever achieved anything that fails to score in virtually half their games?
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2023 19:33:39 GMT
Wins and goals scored. Can’t be doing with all this jizzing over clean sheets. Our scoring record is pretty horrendous we’ve failed to score in 9 out of 19 competitive games this season so far. Has a team ever achieved anything that fails to score in virtually half their games? Very rarely everyone's best mate TP got Gillingham promoted with hardly any goals the current Norwich manager whose name escapes me got Huddersfield promoted with low goals Greece won the Euros without scoring many |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 12, 2023 19:38:51 GMT
Even of you split it into roughly thirds (16 wins, 15 draws and 15 defeats) it still only garners 63 points, top of the bottom material.
I guess if you win just half your games and chuck half a dozen draws in your guaranteed play offs. That’s what I will be looking for from now on
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Post by generationex on Nov 12, 2023 19:39:59 GMT
Everyone knows the formula : Mostly win at home + mostly draw away = promotion.
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Post by Picasso on Nov 12, 2023 19:44:26 GMT
Keep on with the clean sheets and we’ll end up with a good points tally
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Post by baconburger on Nov 12, 2023 19:46:30 GMT
No brainer. One win, one loss = 3 points Two draws = 2 points Only thing you play for in this league is points so why would you be more happy with a point less? 🤷♂️ That's why I was asking... You can gain a lot from remaining unbeaten though. Confidence and momentum being the main 2. 1 loss could break the confidence that players should be building, the manager changes things and starts chopping and you could go on to lose another 3 on the bounce. Can’t say that failing to score breeds much confidence in the attacking players who tend to be confidence players more so than defensive types. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 12, 2023 19:49:16 GMT
That's why I was asking... You can gain a lot from remaining unbeaten though. Confidence and momentum being the main 2. 1 loss could break the confidence that players should be building, the manager changes things and starts chopping and you could go on to lose another 3 on the bounce. Can’t say that failing to score breeds much confidence in the attacking players who tend to be confidence players more so than defensive types. Indeed, the defence have far more chance of conceding than the forwards do of scoring. It’s a matter of time |
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2023 19:49:21 GMT
It all goes hand in hand
Clean sheets takes the pressure off the forwards
Definitely too many blanks this season, change that and we could really push on
Continue to not score and we we will be bottom half again
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 12, 2023 19:50:29 GMT
Staying unbeaten speaks more for our longer term prospects this season. So I prefer that. Being hard to beat gives us the foundations.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 12, 2023 19:51:09 GMT
There are advantages in both. A win and a draw gets more points but to remain unbeaten and not conceding a goal boosts confidence, which will/could turn out to gain more points in the end. A very good question though.
OS.
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Post by Picasso on Nov 12, 2023 19:56:02 GMT
It all goes hand in hand Clean sheets takes the pressure off the forwards Definitely too many blanks this season, change that and we could really push on Continue to not score and we we will be bottom half again 8/16 blanks this season. Sunderland, for example, have 5 of out 16. Definitely something that needs work, but the clean sheets are great. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2023 19:56:39 GMT
It all goes hand in hand Clean sheets takes the pressure off the forwards Definitely too many blanks this season, change that and we could really push on Continue to not score and we we will be bottom half again 8/16 blanks this season. Sunderland, for example, have 5 of out 16. Definitely something that needs work, but the clean sheets are great. Yes too many |
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Post by mistergumby on Nov 12, 2023 20:06:32 GMT
Sweden in 1998. AIK Stockholm won the league scoring a frankly pathetic 25 goals in 26 games, 0.96 goals per game. All the 13 other teams in the league scored more, including the two relegated sides.
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Post by jokker on Nov 12, 2023 20:10:47 GMT
It all goes hand in hand Clean sheets takes the pressure off the forwards Definitely too many blanks this season, change that and we could really push on Continue to not score and we we will be bottom half again we already are - 14th and falling one each game for the last two games |
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Post by Picasso on Nov 12, 2023 20:19:05 GMT
Sweden in 1998. AIK Stockholm won the league scoring a frankly pathetic 25 goals in 26 games, 0.96 goals per game. All the 13 other teams in the league scored more, including the two relegated sides. That’s the beauty of football though. We all want to see goals and attacking football, but it’s not just about that and Stockholm, I guess, had mastered the art of defence. Conversely, you could go a whole season without losing and still get relegated, such is the way league football works. It’s great that such oddities are possible. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2023 20:20:22 GMT
It all goes hand in hand Clean sheets takes the pressure off the forwards Definitely too many blanks this season, change that and we could really push on Continue to not score and we we will be bottom half again we already are - 14th and falling one each game for the last two games Yes but we were 21st so the recent run including g the 0.0 draws had moved us forward not enough as only a few games As I said if we change the goalscoring and keep clean sheets we will move forward more And if we don't we will rattle around again |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 12, 2023 20:22:16 GMT
There are advantages in both. A win and a draw gets more points but to remain unbeaten and not conceding a goal boosts confidence, which will/could turn out to gain more points in the end. A very good question though. OS. I’m not sure how much confidence not scoring breeds tbh. Win next week and score we are well in the mix. Another nil nil and it’s a huge worry isn’t it? |
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2023 20:25:33 GMT
There are advantages in both. A win and a draw gets more points but to remain unbeaten and not conceding a goal boosts confidence, which will/could turn out to gain more points in the end. A very good question though. OS. I’m not sure how much confidence not scoring breeds tbh. Win next week and score we are well in the mix. Another nil nil and it’s a huge worry isn’t it? It definitely breeds confidence knowing 1 goal is probably going to be enough to win When shipping goals knowing you need 2 goals at least just to get a point is demoralising |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 12, 2023 20:30:57 GMT
I’m not sure how much confidence not scoring breeds tbh. Win next week and score we are well in the mix. Another nil nil and it’s a huge worry isn’t it? It definitely breeds confidence knowing 1 goal is probably going to be enough to win When shipping goals knowing you need 2 goals at least just to get a point is demoralising You couldn’t possibly know one goal is enough to win. It’s a dangerous path to assume you won’t concede |
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