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Post by kevkj on Oct 21, 2023 20:03:41 GMT
Great result but surely a blind man can see this two should be in for Johnson and Hoever. "Vis Unita Fortior"
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 21, 2023 20:04:43 GMT
Possibly Tuesday but agree
on second thoughts, Wednesday night work better
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 21, 2023 20:06:51 GMT
Couldn’t believe it when I read the team sheet at 2 and saw he’d dropped Junior. That said, I thought Hoever did very well today against a quality winger in Clarke.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 21, 2023 20:07:42 GMT
Great result but surely a blind man can see this two should be in for Johnson and Hoever. "Vis Unita Fortior" Johnson had a poor game today but he’s a manager favourite who will play most weeks,Hoever looked knackered/injured at the end of the game and I can see Junior or Gooch playing on Wednesday night |
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Oct 21, 2023 20:13:17 GMT
They are both a big part of our future.
Rightly or wrongly Neil seems to want to ease them in gently. Junior is presumably destined to replace Hoever as first choice next season when his loan has finished.
Both Junior and Junho look ready to be starting though and you would think there chances are going to come
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 21, 2023 20:16:27 GMT
Couldn’t believe it when I read the team sheet at 2 and saw he’d dropped Junior. That said, I thought Hoever did very well today against a quality winger in Clarke. Be interesting to see the stats, but looked like Clarke beat him more in the one on ones. Edit - He also completely left him for the goal. If he’d have sprinted back he’d have intercepted it. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 21, 2023 20:16:50 GMT
I suspect both of them might start Wednesday.
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Post by lordb on Oct 21, 2023 20:44:30 GMT
Couldn’t believe it when I read the team sheet at 2 and saw he’d dropped Junior. That said, I thought Hoever did very well today against a quality winger in Clarke. He did and he always carries a threat Junior at RB with Hoever in front might work well |
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Post by Jimm on Oct 21, 2023 20:44:45 GMT
He will only start Junho in games we aren't meant to win. It's going to be a long frustrating season with him sat in the dark cause it's obvious the gremlin doesn't fancy him at all
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 21, 2023 20:55:34 GMT
Couldn’t believe it when I read the team sheet at 2 and saw he’d dropped Junior. That said, I thought Hoever did very well today against a quality winger in Clarke. Be interesting to see the stats, but looked like Clarke beat him more in the one on ones. Edit - He also completely left him for the goal. If he’d have sprinted back he’d have intercepted it. Their goal was a result of a terrible pass by Rose and also a bit of poor goalkeeping by Travers who pushed the ball out straight into the path of Clarke. |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 21, 2023 20:56:04 GMT
Couldn’t believe it when I read the team sheet at 2 and saw he’d dropped Junior. That said, I thought Hoever did very well today against a quality winger in Clarke. Be interesting to see the stats, but looked like Clarke beat him more in the one on ones. Edit - He also completely left him for the goal. If he’d have sprinted back he’d have intercepted it. Clarke was mediocre at best for Stoke but Hoever made him look like George Best. He just isn’t a good defender. Clarke was wide open for their goal and that’s all down to Hoever. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 21, 2023 20:56:39 GMT
He will only start Junho in games we aren't meant to win. It's going to be a long frustrating season with him sat in the dark cause it's obvious the gremlin doesn't fancy him at all Junho is clearly the better player. I’m mystified as to why Johnson is anywhere near the team at the moment. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 21, 2023 20:58:19 GMT
He will only start Junho in games we aren't meant to win. It's going to be a long frustrating season with him sat in the dark cause it's obvious the gremlin doesn't fancy him at all Junho is clearly the better player. I’m mystified as to why Johnson is anywhere near the team at the moment. Haksabanovic should play instead of Johnson I think DJ is a handy bench player |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 21, 2023 21:00:52 GMT
Be interesting to see the stats, but looked like Clarke beat him more in the one on ones. Edit - He also completely left him for the goal. If he’d have sprinted back he’d have intercepted it. Clarke was mediocre at best for Stoke but Hoever made him look like George Best. He just isn’t a good defender. Clarke was wide open for their goal and that’s all down to Hoever. Clarke has improved and developed significantly since he came to us. Although he played during the lockdown season and none of us actually saw him “live” as it were, he’s clearly filled out physically and looks one of the better players in the division. I can’t think of many times that he got the better of Hoever, and the goal came as a result of a poor pass out by Rose, and Travers palming the shot straight into Clarkes path. Poor goalkeeping for me. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 21, 2023 21:02:34 GMT
Junho is clearly the better player. I’m mystified as to why Johnson is anywhere near the team at the moment. Haksabanovic should play instead of Johnson I think DJ is a handy bench player It’s worth a look certainly. Long term surely young Junho is the answer as an attacking midfielder? Johnson has been poor so far. Although our second came from a corner, his set pieces have been generally dismal. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 21, 2023 21:04:15 GMT
Absolutely.
It makes no sense.
Johnson was diabolical today.
And Hoever just can’t defend. Play our own player.
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Post by lordb on Oct 21, 2023 21:14:41 GMT
Haksabanovic should play instead of Johnson I think DJ is a handy bench player It’s worth a look certainly. Long term surely young Junho is the answer as an attacking midfielder? Johnson has been poor so far. Although our second came from a corner, his set pieces have been generally dismal. More than happy if Junho plays there Haksabanovic or Junho, either is fine by me Bayern said DJ was diabolical, can't agree with that but he's clearly not going to score or make many goals Thompson, Gooch, DJ all handy bench players If the rumour re Laurent and Italian club was true wish we had sold him and signed Onahma instead Perhaps Laurent could be moved on in January? Then there is Baker will he play for Stoke again? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 21, 2023 21:17:19 GMT
It’s worth a look certainly. Long term surely young Junho is the answer as an attacking midfielder? Johnson has been poor so far. Although our second came from a corner, his set pieces have been generally dismal. More than happy if Junho plays there Haksabanovic or Junho, either is fine by me Bayern said DJ was diabolical, can't agree with that but he's clearly not going to score or make many goals Thompson, Gooch, DJ all handy bench players If the rumour re Laurent and Italian club was true wish we had sold him and signed Onahma instead Perhaps Laurent could be moved on in January? Then there is Baker will he play for Stoke again? Johnson was awful. First 15/20 minutes he messed up a very simple pass to slide someone in. No one should be over hitting that there. But he does it every time. His set pieces on the whole were atrocious. His best pass in a Stoke shirt set them up. He should have been hooked at half time. |
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Post by thicknthin on Oct 21, 2023 21:25:40 GMT
Be interesting to see the stats, but looked like Clarke beat him more in the one on ones. Edit - He also completely left him for the goal. If he’d have sprinted back he’d have intercepted it. Their goal was a result of a terrible pass by Rose and also a bit of poor goalkeeping by Travers who pushed the ball out straight into the path of Clarke. Travers made a virtually point blank save, he was entitled to push it out and expect some cover |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 21, 2023 21:26:50 GMT
Their goal was a result of a terrible pass by Rose and also a bit of poor goalkeeping by Travers who pushed the ball out straight into the path of Clarke. Travers made a virtually point blank save, he was entitled to push it out and expect some cover It wasn’t point blank. He parries far too much. It was poor. |
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Post by bigvern on Oct 21, 2023 21:27:50 GMT
More than happy if Junho plays there Haksabanovic or Junho, either is fine by me Bayern said DJ was diabolical, can't agree with that but he's clearly not going to score or make many goals Thompson, Gooch, DJ all handy bench players If the rumour re Laurent and Italian club was true wish we had sold him and signed Onahma instead Perhaps Laurent could be moved on in January? Then there is Baker will he play for Stoke again? Johnson was awful. First 15/20 minutes he messed up a very simple pass to slide someone in. No one should be over hitting that there. But he does it every time. His set pieces on the whole were atrocious. His best pass in a Stoke shirt set them up. He should have been hooked at half time. The through ball to Mmaee was atrocious. If you can't put a ball on a plate to a striker from there then you shouldn't be a professional. |
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Post by a on Oct 21, 2023 21:34:13 GMT
Couldn’t believe it when I read the team sheet at 2 and saw he’d dropped Junior. That said, I thought Hoever did very well today against a quality winger in Clarke. Apart from him scoring 😂 |
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Post by thicknthin on Oct 21, 2023 21:34:19 GMT
Travers made a virtually point blank save, he was entitled to push it out and expect some cover It wasn’t point blank. He parries far too much. It was poor. It really wasn’t a parry though was it, you know, a shot hit at you that you don’t deal with. It was across him and well hit. He had to make a save, he did, he was entitled to expect support from his defence after he kept it out, only our full back was 30 Yards away, despite HIS man tapping in the rebound. Not brilliant, but definitely not on Travers! What about the two lads with twisted blood after their number 10 made them look stupid (Stevens and Rose?) |
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Post by a on Oct 21, 2023 21:35:41 GMT
More than happy if Junho plays there Haksabanovic or Junho, either is fine by me Bayern said DJ was diabolical, can't agree with that but he's clearly not going to score or make many goals Thompson, Gooch, DJ all handy bench players If the rumour re Laurent and Italian club was true wish we had sold him and signed Onahma instead Perhaps Laurent could be moved on in January? Then there is Baker will he play for Stoke again? Johnson was awful. First 15/20 minutes he messed up a very simple pass to slide someone in. No one should be over hitting that there. But he does it every time. His set pieces on the whole were atrocious. His best pass in a Stoke shirt set them up. He should have been hooked at half time. Got an assist didn’t he? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 21, 2023 21:38:07 GMT
Johnson was awful. First 15/20 minutes he messed up a very simple pass to slide someone in. No one should be over hitting that there. But he does it every time. His set pieces on the whole were atrocious. His best pass in a Stoke shirt set them up. He should have been hooked at half time. The through ball to Mmaee was atrocious. If you can't put a ball on a plate to a striker from there then you shouldn't be a professional. It was such an easy pass wasn’t it. So dreadfully poor. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 21, 2023 21:38:59 GMT
It wasn’t point blank. He parries far too much. It was poor. It really wasn’t a parry though was it, you know, a shot hit at you that you don’t deal with. It was across him and well hit. He had to make a save, he did, he was entitled to expect support from his defence after he kept it out, only our full back was 30 Yards away, despite HIS man tapping in the rebound. Not brilliant, but definitely not on Travers! What about the two lads with twisted blood after their number 10 made them look stupid (Stevens and Rose?) Hoever was shit for it no doubt but Travers should do better. |
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Post by thicknthin on Oct 21, 2023 21:41:56 GMT
It really wasn’t a parry though was it, you know, a shot hit at you that you don’t deal with. It was across him and well hit. He had to make a save, he did, he was entitled to expect support from his defence after he kept it out, only our full back was 30 Yards away, despite HIS man tapping in the rebound. Not brilliant, but definitely not on Travers! What about the two lads with twisted blood after their number 10 made them look stupid (Stevens and Rose?) Hoever was shit for it no doubt but Travers should do better. In my opinion, ( it’s all about opinions) Travers did as much as could be expected, and I sit behind the goal in block 22 |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Oct 21, 2023 21:42:27 GMT
Be interesting to see the stats, but looked like Clarke beat him more in the one on ones. Edit - He also completely left him for the goal. If he’d have sprinted back he’d have intercepted it. Clarke was mediocre at best for Stoke but Hoever made him look like George Best. He just isn’t a good defender. Clarke was wide open for their goal and that’s all down to Hoever. Clarke has been ripping the league apart, Hoever did well against him overall and couldn’t be blamed for the goal as he was pushing on as required to. Let’s not forget Junior was at fault for Leicester’s first goal. He is the future but Hoever is ahead of him all round currently |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 21, 2023 21:44:03 GMT
Hoever was shit for it no doubt but Travers should do better. In my opinion, ( it’s all about opinions) Travers did as much as could be expected, and I sit behind the goal in block 22 I saw it from behind the person hitting it and it was very close to Travers. I thought he should have held on to it. No doubt Hoever has to actually be by his man though. He’s a crap defender though. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 21, 2023 21:49:13 GMT
I think that it is probably part of AN negotiating three difficult games in a week.
There is bound to be some rotation.
For example, it would not surprise me if Junior plays against Leeds where we will probably have a lot of defending to do.
Personally, I think that Jun-Ho should be starting. Maybe we are just bedding him I slowly.
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