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Post by misterj on Oct 13, 2023 21:29:32 GMT
In terms of billions of cancelled HS2 ££ to be spent and also in the interests of 'levelling up' I feel now is the time for our city centre's ring road to be completed. It has stood for 20+ years in a 3/4 finished state and, quite frankly, makes us look embarrassing. Even the much smaller town of Newcastle-under-Lyme next door has a dual-carriaged ring road. I know people will say "But people don't use Hanley any more" but I feel the road should be completed to allow the city's road-users to navaigate AROUND the centre just as much as through it or into it. Having said that the completed ring road could be a catalyst for re-investment such as the building of affordable housing, retail, distribution or a supermarket on land which has stood empty for two decades. To promote this idea I have emailed the Stoke Central MP
jo.gideon.mp@parliament.uk
and I have written to Stoke-on-Trent city council and received a favourable reply from the transport policy and planning officer brian.edwards@stoke.gov.uk
I urge anyone who cares to do the same particularly if you are a constituent of Stoke Central as I think Jo Gideon has to reply to you if you provide a name and address. Thankyou
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Oct 13, 2023 21:32:18 GMT
In terms of billions of cancelled HS2 ££ to be spent and also in the interests of 'levelling up' I feel now is the time for our city centre's ring road to be completed. It has stood for 20+ years in a 3/4 finished state and, quite frankly, makes us look embarrassing. Even the much smaller town of Newcastle-under-Lyme next door has a dual-carriaged ring road. I know people will say "But people don't use Hanley any more" but I feel the road should be completed to allow the city's road-users to navaigate AROUND the centre just as much as through it or into it. Having said that the completed ring road could be a catalyst for re-investment such as the building of affordable housing, retail, distribution or a supermarket on land which has stood empty for two decades. To promote this idea I have emailed the Stoke Central MP jo.gideon.mp@parliament.uk and I have written to Stoke-on-Trent city council and received a favourable reply from the transport policy and planning officer brian.edwards@stoke.gov.uk I urge anyone who cares to do the same particularly if you are a constituent of Stoke Central as I think Jo Gideon has to reply to you if you provide a name and address. Thankyou What's the proposed route for the last quarter? |
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Post by henry on Oct 13, 2023 21:37:34 GMT
Can the 2 year old pothole by the army and navy stores be filled in ?
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Post by misterj on Oct 13, 2023 21:46:39 GMT
The proposed route would be the one originally intended, Burger King by all the furniture shops - travelling clockwise NW to N and coming out near the old Dudson’s ready to join the stretch heading up towards Birches Head etc I’d say less than 1 km and in today’s money = £20 to £25 million. The similar distance one recently opened linking Fes Park with the A500 at Wolstanton cost at least double that as bridges were required over the canal and railway line.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 14, 2023 4:17:09 GMT
Anything that flattens Century Street soul be a bonus. 2 birds with 1 stone and all that. In fact that entire area needs razing to the ground.
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Post by satoshi on Oct 14, 2023 4:39:29 GMT
Hanley is gone mate. It’s not like people go there for a few beers some fodder at night is it.
Complete waste of a city centre.
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Post by misterj on Oct 14, 2023 7:15:09 GMT
Hanley is gone mate. It’s not like people go there for a few beers some fodder at night is it. Complete waste of a city centre. Yeah but I haven’t mentioned that to the Secretary of State for Transport who I’ve just written to. Anyway there are STILL reasons to visit Hanley and I’ll give you them here: the theatres (Regent, Victoria and Mitchell) Cineworld (unless it goes bump!) Emma Bridgewater, the museum (needs updating but pretty decent) the new Hilton Garden Hotel, music venues such as Sugarmill and Underground, Tesco! Primark! Not a terrible list IMO |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 14, 2023 7:42:34 GMT
Hanley is gone mate. It’s not like people go there for a few beers some fodder at night is it. Complete waste of a city centre. Yeah but I haven’t mentioned that to the Secretary of State for Transport who I’ve just written to. Anyway there are STILL reasons to visit Hanley and I’ll give you them here: the theatres (Regent, Victoria and Mitchell) Cineworld (unless it goes bump!) Emma Bridgewater, the museum (needs updating but pretty decent) the new Hilton Garden Hotel, music venues such as Sugarmill and Underground, Tesco! Primark! Not a terrible list IMO Bon Pan is worth the trip on its own, one of the best places of it's kind I've been to anywhere in the world imo. |
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Post by satoshi on Oct 14, 2023 7:43:01 GMT
There’s not one decent pub in Hanley. It needs to be gentrified like the northern quarter in Manc. I know piccadilly is trying and it’s not bad tbh.
I’d love to go Hanley for a few beers and slap up meal with the mrs but it’s not possible.
Nom was decent but has since closed. Fat cats has gone.
The area around cineworld with restaurants seems to be completely on it’s arse.
It just doesn’t function as a city centre.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 14, 2023 8:35:42 GMT
There’s not one decent pub in Hanley. It needs to be gentrified like the northern quarter in Manc. I know piccadilly is trying and it’s not bad tbh. I’d love to go Hanley for a few beers and slap up meal with the mrs but it’s not possible. Nom was decent but has since closed. Fat cats has gone. The area around cineworld with restaurants seems to be completely on it’s arse. It just doesn’t function as a city centre. There was a good thread on this a few years back with some great ideas. And I agree about the northern 1/4 in Manchester. The difference however was leadership and Howard Bernstein the council leader was that difference. He knew how to get shit done. So much so after his success with the commonwealth games he was asked to play a big part in the 2012 Olympics in London. And indeed getting the commonwealth games is what directly gave the northern 1/4 what it needed. Stoke has sadly been badly represented by our council. It doesn't function. We can never really hope to be a Manchester but quite how a city that is 40 miles from both Birmingham and Manchester and is on a main line and sits literally on the M6 hasn't achieved more for itself is locally one of the great wonders of our time. Very sad indeed that we have missed out on so much. |
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Post by satoshi on Oct 14, 2023 8:56:48 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 14, 2023 8:58:06 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it Absolutely. Very good point. |
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Post by misterj on Oct 14, 2023 23:33:14 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it Absolutely. Very good point. Also we have a cracking new bus station! One of the differences between our city and others was pointed out by a Leeds lass recently, “Stoke people will say it’s sh** round here whereas Yorkshire people will say I’m from God’s county, born and bred - lived in Yorkshire all me life, proud, and never want to live anywhere else!” |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 15, 2023 6:22:53 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it I certainly agree that more should be made of the canals but I think that's what they're attempting in Stoke right now with that project by the station. |
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Post by satoshi on Oct 15, 2023 6:33:25 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it I certainly agree that more should be made of the canals but I think that's what they're attempting in Stoke right now with that project by the station. Isn’t that more residential? I think theres a cafe on the ground floor |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 15, 2023 6:47:02 GMT
I certainly agree that more should be made of the canals but I think that's what they're attempting in Stoke right now with that project by the station. Isn’t that more residential? I think theres a cafe on the ground floor Haven't looked closely but I thought it was a mix of business and residential. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Oct 15, 2023 7:43:36 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it The proposed refilling of the Burslem branch of the Trent and Mersey has that potential. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 15, 2023 13:19:15 GMT
In terms of billions of cancelled HS2 ££ to be spent and also in the interests of 'levelling up' I feel now is the time for our city centre's ring road to be completed. It has stood for 20+ years in a 3/4 finished state and, quite frankly, makes us look embarrassing. Even the much smaller town of Newcastle-under-Lyme next door has a dual-carriaged ring road. I know people will say "But people don't use Hanley any more" but I feel the road should be completed to allow the city's road-users to navaigate AROUND the centre just as much as through it or into it. Having said that the completed ring road could be a catalyst for re-investment such as the building of affordable housing, retail, distribution or a supermarket on land which has stood empty for two decades. To promote this idea I have emailed the Stoke Central MP jo.gideon.mp@parliament.uk and I have written to Stoke-on-Trent city council and received a favourable reply from the transport policy and planning officer brian.edwards@stoke.gov.uk I urge anyone who cares to do the same particularly if you are a constituent of Stoke Central as I think Jo Gideon has to reply to you if you provide a name and address. Thankyou If S-o-T sees a single penny of the redirected HS2 funds I'll eat my own cock and balls in a brioche bun. |
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Post by misterj on Oct 15, 2023 13:23:10 GMT
People can take a look at YouTuber David Burnip on ‘Broken Stoke? Is there hope for this once great city?’ He highlights issues but positive stuff as well and says he left the city ‘buzzing’ and determined to return and explore the bottle kilns.
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Post by toppercorner on Oct 15, 2023 16:14:28 GMT
People can take a look at YouTuber David Burnip on ‘Broken Stoke? Is there hope for this once great city?’ He highlights issues but positive stuff as well and says he left the city ‘buzzing’ and determined to return and explore the bottle kilns. The city won't rise again, until we get rid of St Modwen. The number 1 cause of our lost history and introduction to bland mediocrity. Lowest common denominator housing where something special always stood. Easier for them to do that than actually put in a bit of groundwork. Also, sorry to say, we should be building the city for the young, not the old. Once all the older generation pass, we'll have done nothing to attract fresh blood into the city, as we won't have moved with the times, and the city will crumble even more. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 15, 2023 18:28:30 GMT
I certainly agree that more should be made of the canals but I think that's what they're attempting in Stoke right now with that project by the station. Isn’t that more residential? I think theres a cafe on the ground floor Hopefully not. I find it an exciting project and hopefully it’s done well. Looking at the Capital and Centric portfolio of previous projects I’m hopeful. www.capitalandcentric.com/goods-yard |
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Post by misterj on Oct 15, 2023 18:29:21 GMT
I’d say in attracting young people: bet365 + Vodafone + retail + leisure on just Festival Park alone must provide tons of tech-savvy + I.T. jobs wouldn’t you agree then there’s the new Smithfield development in Hanley?
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Post by misterj on Oct 15, 2023 18:30:50 GMT
By the way: the Hartshill badger ….. well said 👍🏻
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Oct 15, 2023 18:38:48 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it I’m sure they are doing something with the canal at stoke station with this new hub they are building there. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 15, 2023 18:43:54 GMT
We have a cracking canal system that would benefit from some kind of commercial / entertainment hub sitting on it I’m sure they are doing something with the canal at stoke station with this new hub they are building there. As above |
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Post by toppercorner on Oct 15, 2023 19:04:20 GMT
I’d say in attracting young people: bet365 + Vodafone + retail + leisure on just Festival Park alone must provide tons of tech-savvy + I.T. jobs wouldn’t you agree then there’s the new Smithfield development in Hanley? but there's nowhere for them to go. I'd hardly call anything on festival park as a leisure attraction. the smithfield development is nothing either. A low-rent hotel and a spitfire you can see through a window (as the museum is shut most of the time) no decent independent galleries, cafe's, bars, clubs or restaurants, just generic shite chains such as nando's and wagamamas. no, the city has fallen way down any young person's list, and if any is content with what is there, it's equally shocking. I do know that there are a number of individuals within the city trying to group together to get things going, so i wish them all the best. |
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Post by misterj on Oct 16, 2023 12:12:03 GMT
No leisure on festival Park? The cinema, the bowling, the carvery, (two actually!) Waterworld, a huge gym including indoor golf and an excellent ski centre. No leisure?
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Post by JudgeMental on Oct 16, 2023 12:17:21 GMT
There’s not one decent pub in Hanley. It needs to be gentrified like the northern quarter in Manc. I know piccadilly is trying and it’s not bad tbh. I’d love to go Hanley for a few beers and slap up meal with the mrs but it’s not possible. Nom was decent but has since closed. Fat cats has gone. The area around cineworld with restaurants seems to be completely on it’s arse. It just doesn’t function as a city centre. Does gentrification not depend on having enough well-paid jobs to attract the kind of people that want to "gentrify" an area though? |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 16, 2023 14:24:32 GMT
No leisure on festival Park? The cinema, the bowling, the carvery, (two actually!) Waterworld, a huge gym including indoor golf and an excellent ski centre. No leisure? Never been, far too old but there's also this place - www.inflatostoke.co.uk/open-bounce |
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Post by misterj on Oct 16, 2023 14:57:25 GMT
Yes, heard about Inflato - originally a kids’ soft play area but more recently was turned into a facility which adults as well as kids enjoy, I think there’s even hens & stags which participate 👍🏻
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