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Post by spoton on Sept 24, 2023 12:01:30 GMT
How many times have they got it wrong and fans still say we have good owners, truly don't know where we would be without the money but we wouldn't expect so much so probably be in a happier place, there's other clubs who have been bought and are in a better place than us, question got to be asked is it time to move on
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Post by chell_rosey on Sept 24, 2023 12:07:34 GMT
And replace with whom...?
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Post by bigvern on Sept 24, 2023 12:09:12 GMT
Shitius Binius
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 24, 2023 12:12:40 GMT
Have I seriously just read someone say we should get rid of the board so we can basically downgrade financially so we don't expect too much to make us all happier???
As far as I remember, most sports are competitive where the point is to do as well as you can aren't they, rather than "Know your place and don't expect too much. Taking part and having fun is all that counts"?
At the risk of sounding cringey (as I'm too old to use this but..) WTAF!!!
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Post by vicarious on Sept 24, 2023 12:16:28 GMT
Menstruating in public is a real world issue in some parts, yet to be solved.
I’d like to think we live in a society where we can provide manpons for people who unfortunately blob on, online.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 24, 2023 12:38:02 GMT
Menstruating in public is a real world issue in some parts, yet to be solved. I’d like to think we live in a society where we can provide manpons for people who unfortunately blob on, online. An abjectly insipid home thrashing after eight years of constant decline and this is your reaction? Bewildering
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Post by Roger Everyone on Sept 24, 2023 12:45:12 GMT
I wish I didn't get bored watching this rubbish every week.
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Post by vicarious on Sept 24, 2023 12:49:20 GMT
Menstruating in public is a real world issue in some parts, yet to be solved. I’d like to think we live in a society where we can provide manpons for people who unfortunately blob on, online. An abjectly insipid home thrashing after eight years of constant decline and this is your reaction? Bewildering Just to be clear, I don’t want the board sacked. I don’t know how that would work, or how ‘we’ sack them. So yes, this is my response 👍
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Post by cdf on Sept 24, 2023 12:49:47 GMT
The thing is that the games moved on so much over the last 2 to 3 years that managers like Alex Neil, Martin o'Neil and in a way Neil Warnock are little bit outdated in their methods and how they like to play football.
I would put under that umbrella managers like Sam Allardyce who's been cack in his last two jobs.
We need the board just to have a little bit of forward thinking in regards management instead sticking to an old & tried management appointment (Nathan Jones excluded)
Personally, if we are to make a change I would go all out for Kieran McKenna because his teams play with a clear identity.
To be honest, Liam Rosenior done a fine job since taking over at Hull City and maybe one to watch
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Post by superjw on Sept 24, 2023 12:55:46 GMT
The thing is that the games moved on so much over the last 2 to 3 years that managers like Alex Neil, Martin o'Neil and in a way Neil Warnock are little bit outdated in their methods and how they like to play football. I would put under that umbrella managers like Sam Allardyce who's been cack in his last two jobs. We need the board just to have a little bit of forward thinking in regards management instead sticking to an old & tried management appointment (Nathan Jones excluded) Personally, if we are to make a change I would go all out for Kieran McKenna because his teams play with a clear identity. To be honest, Liam Rosenior done a fine job since taking over at Hull City and maybe one to watch This is exactly it, the board have done a sterling job with the club in almost every aspect, but their methodology when it comes to manager choices is quite simply failing. As you say some forward thinking is what’s needed, nothing wrong with the squad to a degree, but outdated methods are not working and we will either go stagnant or fall again
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Post by Pottersfan on Sept 24, 2023 12:56:39 GMT
How many times have they got it wrong and fans still say we have good owners, truly don't know where we would be without the money but we wouldn't expect so much so probably be in a happier place, there's other clubs who have been bought and are in a better place than us, question got to be asked is it time to move on Get a grip
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 24, 2023 13:00:01 GMT
The board?
Fuck off, the manager has been positively purring at our recruitment in the summer.
He needs to take a long hard look at himself in the mirror tonight…….
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Post by st3mark on Sept 24, 2023 13:04:08 GMT
How many times have they got it wrong and fans still say we have good owners, truly don't know where we would be without the money but we wouldn't expect so much so probably be in a happier place, there's other clubs who have been bought and are in a better place than us, question got to be asked is it time to move on The board have gone above and beyond yet again in support of their manager.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 24, 2023 13:04:26 GMT
This is a bigger issue than the manager.
We've hardly spent anything in the summer. They could have spent more.
They could have signed a couple of key players, a striker and center back, but baulked at coughing up that bit extra.
And now here we are.
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Post by glpotter on Sept 24, 2023 13:06:47 GMT
This is a bigger issue than the manager. We've hardly spent anything in the summer. They could have spent more. They could have signed a couple of key players, a striker and center back, but baulked at coughing up that bit extra. And now here we are. Would you’d be happy if we signed exactly the same Players but for more money? The owners spending isn’t the problem. It’s their reluctance to try elsewhere outside of the British isles
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 24, 2023 13:07:49 GMT
This is a bigger issue than the manager. We've hardly spent anything in the summer. They could have spent more. They could have signed a couple of key players, a striker and center back, but baulked at coughing up that bit extra. And now here we are. Would you’d be happy if we signed exactly the same Players but for more money? The owners spending isn’t the problem. It’s their reluctance to try elsewhere outside of the British isles No I wouldn't. Me and many others were unhappy at the lack of key signings at striker and center back
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 13:45:03 GMT
Who would buy us?
, They just need to get things right in picking the right manager, which they haven't done since Hughes. Y
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 14:16:52 GMT
Still the biggest issue at the club by a mile.
Clearly. Nothing will change as long as they are here.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 24, 2023 14:19:59 GMT
How many times have they got it wrong and fans still say we have good owners, truly don't know where we would be without the money but we wouldn't expect so much so probably be in a happier place, there's other clubs who have been bought and are in a better place than us, question got to be asked is it time to move on What am absolute fucking weapon. You lot were having a wank a few weeks ago agreeing to all the signings. Shit bin fuck it off.
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Post by thornestein on Sept 24, 2023 14:21:40 GMT
How many times have they got it wrong and fans still say we have good owners, truly don't know where we would be without the money but we wouldn't expect so much so probably be in a happier place, there's other clubs who have been bought and are in a better place than us, question got to be asked is it time to move on What am absolute fucking weapon. You lot were having a wank a few weeks ago agreeing to all the signings. Shit bin fuck it off. why , just because you don’t agree others are entitled to there opinion, don’t like it don’t read it
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 24, 2023 14:24:17 GMT
The only problem with our owners/ board is they have become a soft touch for mediocre managers who know they'll get a fortune even for failure....they need to bring in a non-football enforcer who can help spot when the axe should fall from a more cold and objective perspective
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Post by sportsman on Sept 24, 2023 14:24:58 GMT
What am absolute fucking weapon. You lot were having a wank a few weeks ago agreeing to all the signings. Shit bin fuck it off. why , just because you don’t agree others are entitled to there opinion, don’t like it don’t read it Because it's a load of bollocks. All those moaning about the owners were the same ones having a wank all summer saying yeh great signing that one, and that one, while the rest of us hadn't a clue who they were but excited by the change of direction. Now they've had the change of direction and some muppets on here are still not happy with them. Maybe get that bloke trying buy man UTD to buy us eh? Jesus Christ.
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Post by thornestein on Sept 24, 2023 14:26:09 GMT
why , just because you don’t agree others are entitled to there opinion, don’t like it don’t read it Because it's a load of bollocks. All those moaning about the owners were the same ones having a wank all summer saying yeh great signing that one, and that one, while the rest of us hadn't a clue who they were but excited by the change of direction. Now they've had the change of direction and some muppets on here are still not happy with them. Maybe get that bloke trying buy man UTD to buy us eh? Jesus Christ. it’s not bollocks though , the owners have made mistakes , mainly employing the same shit managers and giving them free reign to do what they like
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Post by stokeson on Sept 24, 2023 14:26:39 GMT
Pulis saved this club and the board( Coates SR) from oblivion but it was more by luck than judgement. Coates JR whats his track record in anything.... I dont want them to go buy the way . Just get somone on board that knows somthing about football in todays world....
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 24, 2023 14:26:48 GMT
The big worry for me is the new recruitment focus seems to still be very much manager driven, as it was under MON and everyone who went before. If that's the case then we are in a tricky situation with regards to the manager and how we unpick his recruitment team if and when his position becomes untenable. Will any of them want to stay? Will they both stay, are either of them good enough to stay? How does their philosophy match that of the owners or has that ever been discussed?
There are always seemingly too many questions with regards to these owners and very little in the way of answers. I flippantly said 'all the gear, no idea' in regards to Alex Neil on his thread but that could easily be levelled at young John Coates. We're often told he's a football nut yet he strikes me at all times as a man who has been handed a lottery win and doesn't know what to do.
For example, we seem to have run amok over Europe this summer with our recruitment led by the swash buckling Dr Google yet we are owned by owners that couldn't pick a foreign manager if their lives depended on it. If we do indeed swap managers who the hell do they go for? Another British dinosaur that would take one look at the dressing room and die of a heart attack or a foreign manager the owners would seemingly need semaphore to communicate with and another man to find and sort out?
It's all just one big stinking mess with this lot that they never, ever seem able to sort out and it's all down to a chronic lack of understanding of what they want and how to deliver it outside of 'yeah, we want premz footy innit, lolz' and 'yeah, we've got a new structure innit cos thats how dem scousers do it, lolz'
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 14:35:31 GMT
The only problem with our owners/ board is they have become a soft touch for mediocre managers who know they'll get a fortune even for failure....they need to bring in a non-football enforcer who can help spot when the axe should fall from a more cold and objective perspective Bullshit. They keep employing clones of the one they just sacked. They’re useless.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 24, 2023 14:40:30 GMT
The only problem with our owners/ board is they have become a soft touch for mediocre managers who know they'll get a fortune even for failure....they need to bring in a non-football enforcer who can help spot when the axe should fall from a more cold and objective perspective Bullshit. They keep employing clones of the one they just sacked. They’re useless. I thought you were one having a wank over the new recruitment team and the new signings? They have done exactly what a lot of fans wanted.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 14:41:23 GMT
Bullshit. They keep employing clones of the one they just sacked. They’re useless. I thought you were one having a wank over the new recruitment team and the new signings? They have done exactly what a lot of fans wanted. The manager should have been sacked in May. We’ve got good attackers being managed by a clueless idiot.
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Post by thornestein on Sept 24, 2023 14:43:37 GMT
I thought you were one having a wank over the new recruitment team and the new signings? They have done exactly what a lot of fans wanted. The manager should have been sacked in May. We’ve got good attackers being managed by a clueless idiot. yep , looks like Sportman is blaming the players his beloved manager bought
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 14:44:59 GMT
The manager should have been sacked in May. We’ve got good attackers being managed by a clueless idiot. yep , looks like Sportman is blaming the players his beloved manager bought We sign a load of wingers, get rid of our best wing back then start playing with wing backs. What clueless dickhead does that?
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