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Pearson
Dec 30, 2023 15:37:51 GMT
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 30, 2023 15:37:51 GMT
Not great tonight and that injury was one of embarrassment I’m sure. He’s a shadow of what he once was. I think he could be a high profile casualty under Schu once the squad has depth. The bloke is really unlucky. Gets an injury every time he loses possession... I absolutely hate watching him play to be honest. Stupid bookings and desperately slow. I'm not sure what he brings to the team.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Dec 30, 2023 16:28:17 GMT
He can't seem to run at all. He's bulked up so much, done too much body building, so that he can't play football anymore. It’s funny you should say that, I feel like that’s the problem with Tyrese Campbell. He looks like he’s carrying too much muscle weight and has lost his burst of speed. (Yes I know some will say he never had a burst of speed, neh neh neh neh neh)
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 30, 2023 16:50:33 GMT
He can't seem to run at all. He's bulked up so much, done too much body building, so that he can't play football anymore. It’s funny you should say that, I feel like that’s the problem with Tyrese Campbell. He looks like he’s carrying too much muscle weight and has lost his burst of speed. (Yes I know some will say he never had a burst of speed, neh neh neh neh neh) there's an obsession with being huge amongst a lot of players. I just watched Celtic though, putting in far more yards than stoke, and a lot of their players are slim, not bulky. It's about striking the balance and to me Pearson looks a lot bigger this season and also sluggish
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Post by chumley on Dec 30, 2023 16:58:02 GMT
He can't seem to run at all. He's bulked up so much, done too much body building, so that he can't play football anymore. It’s funny you should say that, I feel like that’s the problem with Tyrese Campbell. He looks like he’s carrying too much muscle weight and has lost his burst of speed. (Yes I know some will say he never had a burst of speed, neh neh neh neh neh) Campbell was getting past players for fun before his injury , still faster than most.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 30, 2023 16:59:44 GMT
It’s funny you should say that, I feel like that’s the problem with Tyrese Campbell. He looks like he’s carrying too much muscle weight and has lost his burst of speed. (Yes I know some will say he never had a burst of speed, neh neh neh neh neh) there's an obsession with being huge amongst a lot of players. I just watched Celtic though, putting in far more yards than stoke, and a lot of their players are slim, not bulky. It's about striking the balance and to me Pearson looks a lot bigger this season and also sluggish He's turned into Jan Molby in shirt size only. He was never mobile, now he looks less so. Watford were an athletic side and he looked like the kid who got picked last
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 30, 2023 17:27:51 GMT
Hey up - there's a new whipping boy for the Stoke fans. Gouranga.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 30, 2023 17:33:09 GMT
Those saying Pearson is overweight must be watching someone else. I saw him at the airport about 3 months ago and he’s got the physique of a pre pubescent boy. Was acting like one as well😉
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 30, 2023 19:33:02 GMT
Absolutely not the player I thought we were signing.
Feels like his legs have gone, hopefully just a poor pre season and will be better as the season goes on.
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Pearson
Dec 30, 2023 19:41:57 GMT
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Post by pavel on Dec 30, 2023 19:41:57 GMT
Hey up - there's a new whipping boy for the Stoke fans. Gouranga. Don’t see it that way, just some constructive criticism, which is deserved at the moment. Time will tell, and it’s up to him, whether he adjusts to Schumacher’s style of play or not. I’m sure he will get plenty of time to prove himself one way or another.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 30, 2023 21:05:48 GMT
Hey up - there's a new whipping boy for the Stoke fans. Gouranga. Don’t see it that way, just some constructive criticism, which is deserved at the moment. Time will tell, and it’s up to him, whether he adjusts to Schumacher’s style of play or not. I’m sure he will get plenty of time to prove himself one way or another. Constructive criticism? "He's fat, he's unfit, he's past it, he's wank, he's shit, he's a liability, he's a league 1 player, he feigns injury, he's slow, he never wants the ball, not an athlete, chubby, clown, stupid, complete knob, powder puff, bottler, overrated, liability, he's a fraud, can't be arsed", how the fuck is that constructive criticism? Gouranga.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 30, 2023 21:12:40 GMT
My disappointment is how poor he actually is at the dark arts. He never injures anyone, never makes a meaningful foul (players get away from him when he tries to take one for the team) and then gets booked for ludicrous fouls in non-dangerous situations.
I thought we were getting a really nasty bastard and we just seem to have a pantomime villain
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Pearson
Dec 30, 2023 21:13:15 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 30, 2023 21:13:15 GMT
Don’t see it that way, just some constructive criticism, which is deserved at the moment. Time will tell, and it’s up to him, whether he adjusts to Schumacher’s style of play or not. I’m sure he will get plenty of time to prove himself one way or another. Constructive criticism? "He's fat, he's unfit, he's past it, he's wank, he's shit, he's a liability, he's a league 1 player, he feigns injury, he's slow, he never wants the ball, not an athlete, chubby, clown, stupid, complete knob, powder puff, bottler, overrated, liability, he's a fraud, can't be arsed", how the fuck is that constructive criticism? Gouranga. What do you think Pearson brings to the team?
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Post by satoshi on Dec 30, 2023 21:15:02 GMT
I think he’s finished. When we first had him he used to glide into position with ease to protect the defence.
He’s never anywhere near the ball now unless he’s getting himself booked.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 30, 2023 21:17:38 GMT
I think he’s finished. When we first had him he used to glide into position with ease to protect the defence. He’s never anywhere near the ball now unless he’s getting himself booked. Perhaps he's just not fit now he plays for us, the whole team has always seemed poorly conditioned for a long time. Coming in from outside half way through the season probably gave him an advantage in that respect?
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Post by satoshi on Dec 30, 2023 21:18:37 GMT
I think he’s finished. When we first had him he used to glide into position with ease to protect the defence. He’s never anywhere near the ball now unless he’s getting himself booked. Perhaps he's just not fit now he plays for us, the whole team has always seemed poorly conditioned for a long time. Coming in from outside half way through the season probably gave him an advantage in that respect? Hopefully mate
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Pearson
Dec 30, 2023 21:36:47 GMT
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Post by pavel on Dec 30, 2023 21:36:47 GMT
Don’t see it that way, just some constructive criticism, which is deserved at the moment. Time will tell, and it’s up to him, whether he adjusts to Schumacher’s style of play or not. I’m sure he will get plenty of time to prove himself one way or another. Constructive criticism? "He's fat, he's unfit, he's past it, he's wank, he's shit, he's a liability, he's a league 1 player, he feigns injury, he's slow, he never wants the ball, not an athlete, chubby, clown, stupid, complete knob, powder puff, bottler, overrated, liability, he's a fraud, can't be arsed", how the fuck is that constructive criticism? Gouranga. Well I’ve not read all of that on this thread but if you’ve taken time to find it all, well well done, but please tell me what’s you’re view on him or is it just another take away comment you’ve put on the board to stir it up. What’s your opinion does he deserve a place in the team on his current form or not.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 30, 2023 22:59:21 GMT
I think he’s finished. When we first had him he used to glide into position with ease to protect the defence. He’s never anywhere near the ball now unless he’s getting himself booked. Perhaps he's just not fit now he plays for us, the whole team has always seemed poorly conditioned for a long time. Coming in from outside half way through the season probably gave him an advantage in that respect? How do we employ fitness coaches and monitor players to the nth degree and still end up with an unfit squad? It's been the same since Pulis left really. Also, it's unfathomable how professional athletes can allow themselves to become unfit and therefore uncompetitive.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 30, 2023 23:37:12 GMT
He’s a good player, played to his strengths, think Schumacher will se e this.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 30, 2023 23:46:45 GMT
Constructive criticism? "He's fat, he's unfit, he's past it, he's wank, he's shit, he's a liability, he's a league 1 player, he feigns injury, he's slow, he never wants the ball, not an athlete, chubby, clown, stupid, complete knob, powder puff, bottler, overrated, liability, he's a fraud, can't be arsed", how the fuck is that constructive criticism? Gouranga. What do you think Pearson brings to the team? Cake
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Pearson
Dec 31, 2023 4:50:43 GMT
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 31, 2023 4:50:43 GMT
I think he following the Joe Allen road to nowhere sadly. Can see a player in there but seems overweight, tired and losing out to Thompson lately. Not sure what happened there.
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Pearson
Dec 31, 2023 8:53:42 GMT
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Post by monkeycat on Dec 31, 2023 8:53:42 GMT
What do you think Pearson brings to the team? Cake Ravioli
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Pearson
Dec 31, 2023 8:57:10 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 31, 2023 8:57:10 GMT
Heard any transfer gossip Monkey?.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Dec 31, 2023 9:25:35 GMT
Pearson will not last long under this manager/coach he knows what he wants from his squad in terms of performance & Pearson on his showing against Watford will soon be on the sidelines. Mind you he did not pick up his usual booking for something stupid so perhaps thats a little progress.
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Pearson
Dec 31, 2023 9:45:33 GMT
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Post by bertiestan on Dec 31, 2023 9:45:33 GMT
Don’t see it that way, just some constructive criticism, which is deserved at the moment. Time will tell, and it’s up to him, whether he adjusts to Schumacher’s style of play or not. I’m sure he will get plenty of time to prove himself one way or another. Constructive criticism? "He's fat, he's unfit, he's past it, he's wank, he's shit, he's a liability, he's a league 1 player, he feigns injury, he's slow, he never wants the ball, not an athlete, chubby, clown, stupid, complete knob, powder puff, bottler, overrated, liability, he's a fraud, can't be arsed", how the fuck is that constructive criticism? Gouranga. People spout shit on here all the time..he's this, he's that..n just downright wrong n when someone doesn't agree it's constructive criticism..the board is awash with knobbers mate.
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Post by idle on Dec 31, 2023 10:04:58 GMT
Constructive criticism? "He's fat, he's unfit, he's past it, he's wank, he's shit, he's a liability, he's a league 1 player, he feigns injury, he's slow, he never wants the ball, not an athlete, chubby, clown, stupid, complete knob, powder puff, bottler, overrated, liability, he's a fraud, can't be arsed", how the fuck is that constructive criticism? Gouranga. Well I’ve not read all of that on this thread but if you’ve taken time to find it all, well well done, but please tell me what’s you’re view on him or is it just another take away comment you’ve put on the board to stir it up. What’s your opinion does he deserve a place in the team on his current form or not. Not who you asked, but what he brings to the team is some defensive balance to the midfield. Something only Thompson does of the others. Don't get me wrong, Burger and Junho do defensive work, but their defensive positiong isn't all that (and it shouldn't be, they're not that kind of players). I've also seen those comments AT mentions, several times. It's far from constructive criticism. If you want to discuss the job he does in the role he's supposed to play, then go on. I'd like to hear your constructive criticism of that. It is those who claim something that's supposed to argue for their view, not those who diagree with the bile of the average Oatcaker. (Not saying you've been spouting this shite, it's more of a general view)
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Pearson
Dec 31, 2023 10:17:31 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 31, 2023 10:17:31 GMT
Pearson will not last long under this manager/coach he knows what he wants from his squad in terms of performance & Pearson on his showing against Watford will soon be on the sidelines. Mind you he did not pick up his usual booking for something stupid so perhaps thats a little progress. Yep agree Didn't take long to drop him and he doesn't deserve a start when all fit on recent performances but unfortunately we don't have much cover in that position. Nothing wrong in pointing out what is blatantly obvious
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Post by Gods on Dec 31, 2023 10:39:47 GMT
there's an obsession with being huge amongst a lot of players. I just watched Celtic though, putting in far more yards than stoke, and a lot of their players are slim, not bulky. It's about striking the balance and to me Pearson looks a lot bigger this season and also sluggish He's turned into Jan Molby in shirt size only. He was never mobile, now he looks less so. Watford were an athletic side and he looked like the kid who got picked last I did notice at Watford that they had several pacy, wiry lads who looked like they might have a decent half marathon in them. On the whole we had more the sort of blacksmith and publican look. Although in fairness Sead Hakšabanović has definitely built his considerable bulk in the gym rather than the kebab shop. I must say, if we can get away with it, I prefer our look, more footballing 'everyman' rather than African distance runner
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Pearson
Dec 31, 2023 10:39:49 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Dec 31, 2023 10:39:49 GMT
Well I’ve not read all of that on this thread but if you’ve taken time to find it all, well well done, but please tell me what’s you’re view on him or is it just another take away comment you’ve put on the board to stir it up. What’s your opinion does he deserve a place in the team on his current form or not. Not who you asked, but what he brings to the team is some defensive balance to the midfield. Something only Thompson does of the others. Don't get me wrong, Burger and Junho do defensive work, but their defensive positiong isn't all that (and it shouldn't be, they're not that kind of players). I've also seen those comments AT mentions, several times. It's far from constructive criticism. If you want to discuss the job he does in the role he's supposed to play, then go on. I'd like to hear your constructive criticism of that. It is those who claim something that's supposed to argue for their view, not those who diagree with the bile of the average Oatcaker. (Not saying you've been spouting this shite, it's more of a general view) Lacks mobility and ability to play at high intensity for anything more than very short bursts. Slows play but does look after the ball reasonably well. The defensive positioning alluded to is conservative positioning necessitated by the lack of mobility. Too many unnecessary bookings bought on by gobbing off in an aggressive manner to referee’s who then take the very next opportunity to book him. Not all been bad made some important blocks but not a patch on playing the deep lying midfield role of Burger who’s more mobile, quicker and more ambitious on the ball though obviously less safe. Greater ambition equals lower successful completion. Can’t see him being favoured by Schu who I think will want someone more dynamic.
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Pearson
Dec 31, 2023 10:39:56 GMT
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Post by pavel on Dec 31, 2023 10:39:56 GMT
Well I’ve not read all of that on this thread but if you’ve taken time to find it all, well well done, but please tell me what’s you’re view on him or is it just another take away comment you’ve put on the board to stir it up. What’s your opinion does he deserve a place in the team on his current form or not. Not who you asked, but what he brings to the team is some defensive balance to the midfield. Something only Thompson does of the others. Don't get me wrong, Burger and Junho do defensive work, but their defensive positiong isn't all that (and it shouldn't be, they're not that kind of players). I've also seen those comments AT mentions, several times. It's far from constructive criticism. If you want to discuss the job he does in the role he's supposed to play, then go on. I'd like to hear your constructive criticism of that. It is those who claim something that's supposed to argue for their view, not those who diagree with the bile of the average Oatcaker. (Not saying you've been spouting this shite, it's more of a general view) Well if you want to look back at my original post you will see no bile directed at Pearson per se, I said I’m not sure that he fits the way Schumacher wants us to play, that is a high tempo approach. Also to degree he’s been a bit underwhelming this year whether that’s due to what Neil’s asked him to do or his own form is subject to debate. I also said that I’m sure and deserves to given the same chance to prove himself under the new regime as everybody else and if he impresses he will play. Any bile there? I suggest you read my posts rather than making assumptions. Finally I don’t agree there been a witch hunt against Pearson on the Oatcake, nothing compared with what some players have been subjected to, it’s all been rather mild, fat, slow, weak in the tackle, hot headed for example, hardly witch hunt language.
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Post by idle on Dec 31, 2023 10:49:39 GMT
Not who you asked, but what he brings to the team is some defensive balance to the midfield. Something only Thompson does of the others. Don't get me wrong, Burger and Junho do defensive work, but their defensive positiong isn't all that (and it shouldn't be, they're not that kind of players). I've also seen those comments AT mentions, several times. It's far from constructive criticism. If you want to discuss the job he does in the role he's supposed to play, then go on. I'd like to hear your constructive criticism of that. It is those who claim something that's supposed to argue for their view, not those who diagree with the bile of the average Oatcaker. (Not saying you've been spouting this shite, it's more of a general view) Lacks mobility and ability to play at high intensity for anything more than very short bursts. Slows play but does look after the ball reasonably well. The defensive positioning alluded to is conservative positioning necessitated by the lack of mobility. Too many unnecessary bookings bought on by gobbing off in an aggressive manner to referee’s who then take the very next opportunity to book him. Not all been bad made some important blocks but not a patch on playing the deep lying midfield role of Burger who’s more mobile, quicker and more ambitious on the ball though obviously less safe. Greater ambition equals lower successful completion. Can’t see him being favoured by Schu who I think will want someone more dynamic. Well, Burger is definitly being played as a box-to-box midfielder, and you need someone to balance that, especially when both fullbacks are bombing forward. If Pearson is the right man for Schuey time will tell, but he's not a bad ball winner. And I disagree on the positioning ability. He reads the game well defensively. I'd rather have someone who's just there to pick up the ball rather than someone needing to chase after it to get it back. Every player can't be gung-ho all the time. When we compare the two DMs/ball winners in the squad (plus perhaps Sidibe?) Pearson is better than Thompson at positioning, tackling, shirt passing, while Thompson is better at ranged passing and has more pace. Their close control is similar, as is their aerial skills (poor, the both of them).
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