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Post by rowbeartoe on Aug 24, 2023 15:34:53 GMT
You'd imagine Pearson has signed to be first team when fit, Burger at the price mooted (4m+) is definitely first choice and if you put Captain Laurent in the trio for me that lacks any perceivable creativity which tells me Laurent's position is under fire as you'd imagine we'd want someone like Johnson or one of the new boys in the midfield. As for Baker, you'd imagine he further drops down the list when fit, but maybe I'm reading it all wrong and there will be enough in midfield with Burger, Pearson and Laurent?
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Post by silverdollar on Aug 24, 2023 15:40:02 GMT
You'd imagine Pearson has signed to be first team when fit, Burger at the price mooted (4m+) is definitely first choice and if you put Captain Laurent in the trio for me that lacks any perceivable creativity which tells me Laurent's position is under fire as you'd imagine we'd want someone like Johnson or one of the new boys in the midfield. As for Baker, you'd imagine he further drops down the list when fit, but maybe I'm reading it all wrong and there will be enough in midfield with Burger, Pearson and Laurent? I am sure that you might have your idea about who you want in midfield! When are you going to realise that over the season it will be definitely a squad of players who might achieve success. There will never be a constant first eleven. |
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Post by rowbeartoe on Aug 24, 2023 15:41:32 GMT
You'd imagine Pearson has signed to be first team when fit, Burger at the price mooted (4m+) is definitely first choice and if you put Captain Laurent in the trio for me that lacks any perceivable creativity which tells me Laurent's position is under fire as you'd imagine we'd want someone like Johnson or one of the new boys in the midfield. As for Baker, you'd imagine he further drops down the list when fit, but maybe I'm reading it all wrong and there will be enough in midfield with Burger, Pearson and Laurent? I am sure that you might have your idea about who you want in midfield! When are you going to realise that over the season it will be definitely a squad of players who might achieve success. There will never be a constant first eleven. If you don't believe that the manager will have certain players who he feels are the first written on the team sheet you're not living in the real world |
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 24, 2023 15:41:49 GMT
Some games will require more grit in and some will need more quality. Its a long season and it's nice to have some options for once
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Post by skemstokie on Aug 24, 2023 16:05:00 GMT
Some games will require more grit in and some will need more quality. Its a long season and it's nice to have some options for once And the opposition will only find out the make-up around 1 hr. before the game instead of knowing we have no alternative but play the same as week before if fit. |
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Post by bgreen13 on Aug 24, 2023 16:08:50 GMT
Squad game.
Baker will probably go in January, which will be no loss after last season.
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Post by lordb on Aug 24, 2023 16:08:55 GMT
Some games will require more grit in and some will need more quality. Its a long season and it's nice to have some options for once And the opposition will only find out the make-up around 1 hr. before the game instead of knowing we have no alternative but play the same as week before if fit. & not just the personnel, Alexis Francis will have dumbfounded Watford last week by wheeling out the 352 what will GR be planning for > 352 again after we won playing that or back to 433 or something else 4231 would be easily done now as would other formations |
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 24, 2023 16:11:19 GMT
Pearson
Burger - DJ
Laurent on the bench to be brought on in the rare occasion that he wants to play well.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 24, 2023 16:13:21 GMT
And the opposition will only find out the make-up around 1 hr. before the game instead of knowing we have no alternative but play the same as week before if fit. & not just the personnel, Alexis Francis will have dumbfounded Watford last week by wheeling out the 352 what will GR be planning for > 352 again after we won playing that or back to 433 or something else 4231 would be easily done now as would other formations I think we could see a rise in 3-5-2, it's hard to make sense of the Leris signing without it. It would also explain the top heavy approach with two upfront but then it's a bit harder to squeeze the lads who are wingers in. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 24, 2023 16:13:58 GMT
Pearson Burger - DJ Laurent on the bench to be brought on in the rare occasion that he wants to play well. I agree with this but it's a bit odd to make Laurent captain and not Pearson. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 24, 2023 16:14:54 GMT
I am sure that you might have your idea about who you want in midfield! When are you going to realise that over the season it will be definitely a squad of players who might achieve success. There will never be a constant first eleven. If you don't believe that the manager will have certain players who he feels are the first written on the team sheet you're not living in the real world He's living on the real world of professional football where teams are picked based on form, fitness, formation, performance in training, tactics and compatibility. You are living in the real world of Sunday League football where teams are picked on the basis of who isn't throwing up in the changing room toilets, who is mates with who, who is willing to drive to the ground and who is knocking off who's girlfriend. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 24, 2023 16:16:48 GMT
Won't Bae be an option in midfield too?
It is hard to get a handle on what the plan is with all these new toys.
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Post by walrus on Aug 24, 2023 16:17:20 GMT
& not just the personnel, Alexis Francis will have dumbfounded Watford last week by wheeling out the 352 what will GR be planning for > 352 again after we won playing that or back to 433 or something else 4231 would be easily done now as would other formations I think we could see a rise in 3-5-2, it's hard to make sense of the Leris signing without it. It would also explain the top heavy approach with two upfront but then it's a bit harder to squeeze the lads who are wingers in. If you watch the official Léris introduction video it’s made very clear by Neil and Dublin that he’s been signed as a replacement for Brown with the intention of using him as a wide forward in the games where we require high energy and a press from the front. I’m sure the fact that he can also slip into a wingback system was also a mark in his favour but it’s clearly not the main rationale behind the signing. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Aug 24, 2023 16:22:05 GMT
One of the problems we've had since relegation is that whenever we get ourselves into some sort of form, we only have one way of playing and don't have a plan B. So when opposition managers suss out what we're doing well and take action to stop it, we're unable to change things and we just keep doing the same thing with diminishing results. Then we get desperate and change things for the sake of it and make things even worse.
It happened 2 seasons ago when we had a great start to the season then got sussed out in October and were never able to get our momentum back. And it happened on a smaller scale last season when we had that purple patch in February and March which culminated in that great win at Coventry. Opposition managers sat up and took notice, put in measures to stop us and we had no response to it.
So I see these options as a good thing. We have different options to tackle different types of opposition. And hopefully we don't get stuck with just one successful style of play and we can vary things so we don't get sussed out so easily again.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Aug 24, 2023 16:27:06 GMT
I imagine Burger will be first name on the teamsheet, pick another 2 from 6 as I see it (incl Bakes).
Fantastic competition for places, no excuses for not working their bollocks off every game.
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Post by onepara on Aug 24, 2023 16:30:58 GMT
The title of this thread is amusing. You must think that these players are being signed without any thought on how they are going to be played. The Manager will have a system(s) in mind, & is recruiting accordingly. He's a football Manager, after all!
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 24, 2023 16:51:42 GMT
The title of this thread is amusing. You must think that these players are being signed without any thought on how they are going to be played. The Manager will have a system(s) in mind, & is recruiting accordingly. He's a football Manager, after all! We’ve suffered with woefully imbalanced squads for years. Each of them were made by……football managers. |
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Post by peterpan1 on Aug 24, 2023 16:56:07 GMT
You'd imagine Pearson has signed to be first team when fit, Burger at the price mooted (4m+) is definitely first choice and if you put Captain Laurent in the trio for me that lacks any perceivable creativity which tells me Laurent's position is under fire as you'd imagine we'd want someone like Johnson or one of the new boys in the midfield. As for Baker, you'd imagine he further drops down the list when fit, but maybe I'm reading it all wrong and there will be enough in midfield with Burger, Pearson and Laurent? It's a nice situation to be in to have a good number of options for the season. I sincerely don't think AN is worried about it either. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 24, 2023 17:01:39 GMT
You'd imagine Pearson has signed to be first team when fit, Burger at the price mooted (4m+) is definitely first choice and if you put Captain Laurent in the trio for me that lacks any perceivable creativity which tells me Laurent's position is under fire as you'd imagine we'd want someone like Johnson or one of the new boys in the midfield. As for Baker, you'd imagine he further drops down the list when fit, but maybe I'm reading it all wrong and there will be enough in midfield with Burger, Pearson and Laurent? Listening to the manager it doesn’t sound like there are any sacred cows. Just like it’s great to have all these options and some players will see others off and I couldn’t give a shit what their names are. Got to say I like it, it will be interesting to see if it plays out that way or if like most of them he has his favourites who get picked regardless. We’ll start to find out very soon. |
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Post by Goonie on Aug 24, 2023 17:06:18 GMT
50+ games per season with an ok cup run suggests AN has gone with a rotational squad to ensure we never have to resort to using strikers as wingbacks etc
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Post by greystokie on Aug 24, 2023 17:18:47 GMT
You'd imagine Pearson has signed to be first team when fit, Burger at the price mooted (4m+) is definitely first choice and if you put Captain Laurent in the trio for me that lacks any perceivable creativity which tells me Laurent's position is under fire as you'd imagine we'd want someone like Johnson or one of the new boys in the midfield. As for Baker, you'd imagine he further drops down the list when fit, but maybe I'm reading it all wrong and there will be enough in midfield with Burger, Pearson and Laurent? I suspect Burger might feature more often in place of Pearson than you might think due to injuries, suspensions and two games a week. Unless he pulls his socks up I don't want to see Laurent anywhere near the first 11. As you say Baker is dropping down the pecking order and if fit will be out the door in January. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 24, 2023 17:26:27 GMT
I expect that whoever plays depends who got the Golden Ticket and the guaranteed to play when fit contract. The same fabled contract that has previously been awarded to Glenn Whelan and Joe Allen!
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Post by chicagostokie on Aug 24, 2023 17:28:41 GMT
What I’m quite excited about is seeing what impact having such competition has on our existing players. When Baker joined (and had something to prove) he looked quality. Now he has to fight for his place, he maybe able to find that kind of form again. Same for Laurent, we know there’s a decent player in there, if he’s not getting in the starting 11, it might get the best out of him. If not, we can ship them out.
It’s been a while since we’ve had such a competitive squad, so I’m hoping we will see a lot of players step up, and that impact then turning into results. Might take a few months to see that level of impact, but you’d think it will start to happen - even in training. The. We can continue to remove the low performers, and keep adding to the competition across the starting 11.
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 24, 2023 17:32:49 GMT
Courtesy of Johnny Nash:
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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 24, 2023 20:15:36 GMT
I think we could see a rise in 3-5-2, it's hard to make sense of the Leris signing without it. It would also explain the top heavy approach with two upfront but then it's a bit harder to squeeze the lads who are wingers in. If you watch the official Léris introduction video it’s made very clear by Neil and Dublin that he’s been signed as a replacement for Brown with the intention of using him as a wide forward in the games where we require high energy and a press from the front. I’m sure the fact that he can also slip into a wingback system was also a mark in his favour but it’s clearly not the main rationale behind the signing. And then it feels like we have Vidigal, Campbell, Leris and Mmaee for that position which feels heavy especially when 3 of those have been brought in by the manager in one window. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 24, 2023 20:20:42 GMT
If you watch the official Léris introduction video it’s made very clear by Neil and Dublin that he’s been signed as a replacement for Brown with the intention of using him as a wide forward in the games where we require high energy and a press from the front. I’m sure the fact that he can also slip into a wingback system was also a mark in his favour but it’s clearly not the main rationale behind the signing. And then it feels like we have Vidigal, Campbell, Leris and Mmaee for that position which feels heavy especially when 3 of those have been brought in by the manager in one window. I get the feeling Campbell will get game time this weekend then probably sold. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 24, 2023 20:27:26 GMT
Food for thought, for sure. Burger and Pearson and others might rotate a fair bit due to all the yellow cards totting up. Hopefully we'll have a good run in both cups too.
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Post by whatsashig on Aug 24, 2023 20:32:09 GMT
Better a question than WTF, it’s a mystery at moment, that in itself adds something to go see em
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Post by satoshi on Aug 24, 2023 20:32:21 GMT
I expect that whoever plays depends who got the Golden Ticket and the guaranteed to play when fit contract. The same fabled contract that has previously been awarded to Glenn Whelan and Joe Allen! Whelan no problem. Allen was about as lightweight as a midfielder could possibly get |
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 24, 2023 21:09:18 GMT
Won't Bae be an option in midfield too? It is hard to get a handle on what the plan is with all these new toys. Perhaps Laurent on the move? |
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