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Post by andystokey on Aug 24, 2023 21:14:39 GMT
Players AN signed will be first in the queue. Players who know how it works and perform get first dibs.
Pearson Burger DJ
Add in the grafter Leris In form Vidigal
The rest are playing for places.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 24, 2023 21:44:48 GMT
Players AN signed will be first in the queue. Players who know how it works and perform get first dibs. Pearson Burger DJ Add in the grafter Leris In form Vidigal The rest are playing for places. You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later.
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Post by rowbeartoe on Aug 24, 2023 21:45:59 GMT
Players AN signed will be first in the queue. Players who know how it works and perform get first dibs. Pearson Burger DJ Add in the grafter Leris In form Vidigal The rest are playing for places. You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later. You would think that would be the case but you also don't sign all these midfielders and then tell them only two can play as the captain is undroppable
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Post by andystokey on Aug 24, 2023 22:00:37 GMT
Players AN signed will be first in the queue. Players who know how it works and perform get first dibs. Pearson Burger DJ Add in the grafter Leris In form Vidigal The rest are playing for places. You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later. Jamaal Lascelles is captain of Newcastle but I don't see him getting any game time soon.
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Post by lordb on Aug 24, 2023 22:01:06 GMT
You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later. Jamaal Lascelles is captain of Newcastle but I don't see him getting any game time soon. He might somewhere
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Post by andystokey on Aug 24, 2023 22:01:59 GMT
Jamaal Lascelles is captain of Newcastle but I don't see him getting any game time soon. He might somewhere So might Josh 😉
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 24, 2023 22:04:50 GMT
The more I think about it, especially when all places are filled, Laurent is the most expendable. Captain or not he may be one exit we didn't expect come next week.
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Post by rowbeartoe on Aug 24, 2023 22:15:58 GMT
The more I think about it, especially when all places are filled, Laurent is the most expendable. Captain or not he may be one exit we didn't expect come next week. Unfortunately for Laurent he's a bit of a jack of all trades master of none at the moment and we seem to be signing players who are a specialist at certain things or hopefully specialists in certain things which puts him under considerable threat as a man that offers everything but nothing
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 24, 2023 22:20:08 GMT
Players AN signed will be first in the queue. Players who know how it works and perform get first dibs. Pearson Burger DJ Add in the grafter Leris In form Vidigal The rest are playing for places. You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later. You do if he’s not stepped up to it
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 24, 2023 22:46:05 GMT
You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later. Jamaal Lascelles is captain of Newcastle but I don't see him getting any game time soon. Was he made captain 4 weeks ago ?
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Post by andystokey on Aug 24, 2023 22:50:51 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 24, 2023 22:58:53 GMT
Totally different scenario, he's been captain there for 7 years and is part of the furniture. You don't strip a player of the captaincy then give it to a player you are going to replace and drop after only 4 weeks, it just doesn't happen and would give totally the wrong signal to the dressing room.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 24, 2023 23:03:27 GMT
In terms of this weekend:
It's too early to put in Bae and Burger - they haven't had enough time to get familiar with their team mates.
Sidibe is getting introduced slowly so is unlikely to start a league game just yet.
Realistically Johnson is the only AM option and despite not firing on all cylinders Laurent is the best box to box option.
Which leaves a toss up between Thompson and Pearson for the DM slot. Thompson played well last week and Pearson seems to be carrying a knock so Thompson might get the nod.
As to how the midfield will shape up going forward I have no idea and until he sees how they shape up in training I suspect Neil has an open mind on the matter. He was prepared to drop Pearson last week so I don't think anyone can count in being a nailed on starter - which is exactly how it should be.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 24, 2023 23:28:44 GMT
Players AN signed will be first in the queue. Players who know how it works and perform get first dibs. Pearson Burger DJ Add in the grafter Leris In form Vidigal The rest are playing for places. You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later. You don’t give a manager a summer transfer window only to sack him 4/5 weeks after close. 🤣
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Post by george2again on Aug 24, 2023 23:50:53 GMT
Players AN signed will be first in the queue. Players who know how it works and perform get first dibs. Pearson Burger DJ Add in the grafter Leris In form Vidigal The rest are playing for places. You don't make a player captain then not play him 4 weeks later. Which shows what a strange choice he was for captain. Woefully inconsistent and not a team player. I think he’ll be gone next week.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 25, 2023 3:13:43 GMT
Totally different scenario, he's been captain there for 7 years and is part of the furniture. You don't strip a player of the captaincy then give it to a player you are going to replace and drop after only 4 weeks, it just doesn't happen and would give totally the wrong signal to the dressing room. I think it sends the right signal to the dressing room. It shows them that to stay in the team they need to perform to an acceptable level and that no one gets special favours. I also think far too much is being made of the captaincy issue. It is not a significant role in football compared to other sports.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2023 3:51:29 GMT
Pearson Burger
Campbell Bae Vidigal
Wesley
😍
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Post by walrus on Aug 25, 2023 5:32:55 GMT
If you watch the official Léris introduction video it’s made very clear by Neil and Dublin that he’s been signed as a replacement for Brown with the intention of using him as a wide forward in the games where we require high energy and a press from the front. I’m sure the fact that he can also slip into a wingback system was also a mark in his favour but it’s clearly not the main rationale behind the signing. And then it feels like we have Vidigal, Campbell, Leris and Mmaee for that position which feels heavy especially when 3 of those have been brought in by the manager in one window. Don’t forget Chiquinho!
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Post by andystokey on Aug 25, 2023 6:18:57 GMT
Totally different scenario, he's been captain there for 7 years and is part of the furniture. You don't strip a player of the captaincy then give it to a player you are going to replace and drop after only 4 weeks, it just doesn't happen and would give totally the wrong signal to the dressing room. The point is a club captain isn't guaranteed an armband on matchday. Trippier gets it most weeks for Newcastle. The skipper isn't promised a game that's just as daft.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 25, 2023 6:28:16 GMT
The more I think about it, especially when all places are filled, Laurent is the most expendable. Captain or not he may be one exit we didn't expect come next week. Unfortunately for Laurent he's a bit of a jack of all trades master of none at the moment and we seem to be signing players who are a specialist at certain things or hopefully specialists in certain things which puts him under considerable threat as a man that offers everything but nothing Laurent is a box to box midfielder. A box to box midfielder is a part time DM and a part time AM. Anyone doing that job is a master of being a jack of all trades.
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 25, 2023 6:30:38 GMT
---------Travers--------
----------McNally---------
----Pearson----Burger-----
Leris--Johnson--Laurent--Vidigal
Jun-Ho---Mmaee--Jojic--Chiquinho
-----------Big Wes------
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Post by george2again on Aug 25, 2023 6:48:30 GMT
In reality if Lauren wasn’t the captain this wouldn’t be a thread. Can you drop your captain is the issue. At present he would be first to be dropped on current form.
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Aug 25, 2023 6:54:00 GMT
I think we could see a rise in 3-5-2, it's hard to make sense of the Leris signing without it. It would also explain the top heavy approach with two upfront but then it's a bit harder to squeeze the lads who are wingers in. If you watch the official Léris introduction video it’s made very clear by Neil and Dublin that he’s been signed as a replacement for Brown with the intention of using him as a wide forward in the games where we require high energy and a press from the front. I’m sure the fact that he can also slip into a wingback system was also a mark in his favour but it’s clearly not the main rationale behind the signing. He also makes runs into the box when the ball is on the opposite flank. Which has been the main thing Neill has raved about when talking about Vidigal.
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Post by mrnovember on Aug 25, 2023 7:03:03 GMT
It just feels like the mushrooms kicked in at some point during the pre season recruitment meeting.
"So yeah midfield then. We've got Thompson, Baker and Lozzer" "We should bring Person back" "Deffo" "Makes sense" "Johnson is on a Freemans" "Steady I've worked with home before" "Get him in" "Who else? Someone open Wyscout before these mushys kick in" "Look at this lad, his name is Burger hahaha" "Haha we've got to sign him. Imagine the puns on The Oatcake" "Hahahaha it will keep them amused for weeks. Sod it. Hello? Is that Basel? Yeah, how much for a Burger and do you deliver to Trent Vale?" "Haha Jared you card" "Where else might players have vaguely amusing names to the native English speaker?" "Filter to South Korea. We'll wrap this up and nip down The Park Inn eh?"
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 25, 2023 7:05:41 GMT
Competition for places is great.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 25, 2023 7:26:21 GMT
Competition for places is great. This. I look at the squad and with the exception of goalie I don’t see many positions where bringing someone in will drastically reduce quality like it has in the past. Lots of plan B’s and lots of young, hungry players at low cost. I’m massively impressed so far from what I’ve seen and the imagination shown in respect to the overseas market. It might not work (I think it will) but it’s exciting and bringing some “feel good” factor back to the club. I think there could be a few surprises yet too. *outs* Tymon (looks likely) Campbell Laurent (though I think he’s the least likely) Bonham (From what’s been said there’s interest in him) *ins* Junior (If Tymon leaves) Josh O (If we lose Laurent) CB - essential with only 3 at the club (Davies) Pritchard - I can see him arriving. Would be a handy addition and Neil knows him well. STR - I do think we’re still lacking a goalscorer. I can see Stewart coming. GK - decent number 2. Maybe a loan from a prem club
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 25, 2023 7:29:54 GMT
Travers Bonham
1 Hoever +1
2Stevens 3Tymon (or squad replacement)
4McNally 5Wilmot 6Rose +1
7Pearson 8Burger 9Laurent 10Johnson 11Bae
12Mmaee 13Vidigal 14Wes 15Chiq 16Campbell 17Leris 18Jojic +1
Baker Thompson
We don't know how well we're going to do - but we've certainly created a squad of 18 outfield players (so far), just by virtue of all being summer signings and key men from last year, who'll all believe they should be playing, or on the bench as an absolute minimum.
Thompson, who already doesn't seem to be in that top 18 once Bae and Burger are confirmed, may have his last game on the bench as soon as tomorrow?
And 2-3 exclusions from the bench for any of the others would lead to a major sulk. Maybe the only one that'd accept a slow build into the squad is Jojic.
So, if we were to add another RB and a fourth CB (which seems nailed-on) - and another striker as looks likely, the battle just to get into the matchday 20 would be pretty intense.
The days of having squad filler floating about the periphery of the squad who kind of knew their place seems to be over.
So the task of managing the egos of agitated players will begin, particularly if there aren't a couple of departures.
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Post by lordb on Aug 25, 2023 7:32:16 GMT
In terms of this weekend: It's too early to put in Bae and Burger - they haven't had enough time to get familiar with their team mates. Sidibe is getting introduced slowly so is unlikely to start a league game just yet. Realistically Johnson is the only AM option and despite not firing on all cylinders Laurent is the best box to box option. Which leaves a toss up between Thompson and Pearson for the DM slot. Thompson played well last week and Pearson seems to be carrying a knock so Thompson might get the nod. As to how the midfield will shape up going forward I have no idea and until he sees how they shape up in training I suspect Neil has an open mind on the matter. He was prepared to drop Pearson last week so I don't think anyone can count in being a nailed on starter - which is exactly how it should be. Thompson, Pearson in double pivot, allowing the full backs to get forward more DJ to play, Laurent on the bench edit: just for Millwall by the way obviously Burger will be a regular Bae I assume will be easesd in off the bench for a while
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Post by caine on Aug 25, 2023 7:40:17 GMT
Don’t think we can moan about the recruitment, we would have took Pearson, DJ and the two signings we are due to sign shortly. Pearson has always been a slight risk with injuries but I think we have massively improved the CM since we gone down.
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Post by apb1 on Aug 25, 2023 7:53:43 GMT
Travers Bonham 1 Hoever +12Stevens 3Tymon (or squad replacement) 4McNally 5Wilmot 6Rose +17Pearson 8Burger 9Laurent 10Johnson 11Bae 12Mmaee 13Vidigal 14Wes 15Chiq 16Campbell 17Leris 18Jojic +1Baker Thompson We don't know how well we're going to do - but we've certainly created a squad of 18 outfield players (so far), just by virtue of all being summer signings and key men from last year, who'll all believe they should be playing, or on the bench as an absolute minimum. Thompson, who already doesn't seem to be in that top 18 once Bae and Burger are confirmed, may have his last game on the bench as soon as tomorrow? And 2-3 exclusions from the bench for any of the others would lead to a major sulk. Maybe the only one that'd accept a slow build into the squad is Jojic. So, if we were to add another RB and a fourth CB (which seems nailed-on) - and another striker as looks likely, the battle just to get into the matchday 20 would be pretty intense. The days of having squad filler floating about the periphery of the squad who kind of knew their place seems to be over. So the task of managing the egos of agitated players will begin, particularly if there aren't a couple of departures. Jojic and Bae are only 20 I think. I would imagine a few weeks at least of acclimatising, mainly of under 21 and League Cup appearances (Rotherham willing) before they make the Championship squad regularly. One or both might even get a local loan/train with us deal, although it seems unlikely.
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