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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 2, 2023 20:59:31 GMT
Fucking leave him alone, he's fine. He's new and he probably reads this board, stop slagging him off.
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Post by standbutler1 on Sept 2, 2023 21:01:50 GMT
much more game description today
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Post by canadianmoose on Sept 2, 2023 21:05:47 GMT
He was a lot better today for the most part so that’s good.
Two issues though:
1) saying “fair play to the lad” for the Preston player winning the shocking penalty was outrageous.
2) He still says “bet 3 6 5” far too often
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 2, 2023 21:08:29 GMT
Fucking leave him alone, he's fine. He's new and he probably reads this board, stop slagging him off. I've got no problem with him personally he does seem a nice enough bloke but he's really crap at his job.
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Post by Vicky Ground on Sept 2, 2023 21:15:32 GMT
It was better today
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Post by BristolMick on Sept 2, 2023 22:39:35 GMT
He was a lot better today for the most part so that’s good. Two issues though: 1) saying “fair play to the lad” for the Preston player winning the shocking penalty was outrageous. 2) He still says “bet 3 6 5” far too often Re your first point, he cooked his goose with a lot of us with his “as a neutral’ comment at Millwall last week. BM
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Post by professorplump on Sept 3, 2023 6:29:56 GMT
Listened yesterday and thought the commentary was fine. Some of the criticism feels very petty.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2023 7:50:48 GMT
He needs time to gel into his new role ffs, stop knicker wetting it'll come good, honest.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 3, 2023 8:38:48 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 4, 2023 19:54:06 GMT
He was on 5live yesterday as the reporter on the wolves / Crystal palace game
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Sept 5, 2023 12:20:03 GMT
He was on 5live yesterday as the reporter on the wolves / Crystal palace game They all freelance. Lee Blakeman also does coverage for 5Live, as does John Acres.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 5, 2023 12:27:18 GMT
Why do some have to take apart everything the commentators say?
I think some were dying for Nige to make a mistake and now this lad who has been excellent for me and has massive boots to fill and doing it well
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 5, 2023 12:35:41 GMT
Why do some have to take apart everything the commentators say? I think some were dying for Nige to make a mistake and now this lad who has been excellent for me and has massive boots to fill and doing it well You accept that when the lad 'bought the foul' it was ok for him to say 'fair play to the lad?' That's not acceptable on Radio Yokel or MOTD.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 5, 2023 12:41:50 GMT
Why do some have to take apart everything the commentators say? I think some were dying for Nige to make a mistake and now this lad who has been excellent for me and has massive boots to fill and doing it well You accept that when the lad 'bought the foul' it was ok for him to say 'fair play to the lad?' That's not acceptable on Radio Yokel or MOTD. They do say it on MOTD.He could have gone down, clever play etc, and that is players who have played the game When Powell won a late free kick he was praised by many for his tactics on here. Like I said, scrutinising Some still repeat the Rock the city comment from Pulis and go on about a man ordering a pizza though I guess
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 5, 2023 12:51:48 GMT
You accept that when the lad 'bought the foul' it was ok for him to say 'fair play to the lad?' That's not acceptable on Radio Yokel or MOTD. They do say it on MOTD.He could have gone down, clever play etc, and that is players who have played the game When Powell won a late free kick he was praised by many for his tactics on here. Like I said, scrutinising Some still repeat the Rock the city comment from Pulis and go on about a man ordering a pizza though I guess Because on MOTD, on average, 19 in 20 (skewed by club fanbase size admittedly) don't give a fuck what the commentator says because it's not their team. On local radio the fan base is 100% interested in what is said about their team. Having said before 'as a neutral' he does a generic BBC commentary for a partisan audience. Plastic supporters don't give a shit, Stoke supporters do about their own club.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 5, 2023 12:56:55 GMT
They do say it on MOTD.He could have gone down, clever play etc, and that is players who have played the game When Powell won a late free kick he was praised by many for his tactics on here. Like I said, scrutinising Some still repeat the Rock the city comment from Pulis and go on about a man ordering a pizza though I guess Because on MOTD, on average, 19 in 20 (skewed by club fanbase size admittedly) don't give a fuck what the commentator says because it's not their team. On local radio the fan base is 100% interested in what is said about their team. Having said before 'as a neutral' he does a generic BBC commentary for a partisan audience. Plastic supporters don't give a shit, Stoke supporters do about their own club. Not sure what a plastic supporter is, some term made up to claim they're not as big a fan of their club as you are I guess. You're assuming that people who watch MOTD aren't as big a fan of their club as you are? Bit of a generalisation about a few million people you don't know.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 5, 2023 13:01:34 GMT
Because on MOTD, on average, 19 in 20 (skewed by club fanbase size admittedly) don't give a fuck what the commentator says because it's not their team. On local radio the fan base is 100% interested in what is said about their team. Having said before 'as a neutral' he does a generic BBC commentary for a partisan audience. Plastic supporters don't give a shit, Stoke supporters do about their own club. Not sure what a plastic supporter is, some term made up to claim they're not as big a fan of their club as you are I guess. You're assuming that people who watch MOTD aren't as big a fan of their club as you are? Bit of a generalisation about a few million people people you don't know. I don't know the 7.8bn people on this planet, so? Back to the point he produces a (poor) generic commentary for a partisan audience. If you don't get that go and adopt another club.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 5, 2023 13:03:17 GMT
Not sure what a plastic supporter is, some term made up to claim they're not as big a fan of their club as you are I guess. You're assuming that people who watch MOTD aren't as big a fan of their club as you are? Bit of a generalisation about a few million people people you don't know. I don't know the 7.8bn people on this planet, so? Back to the point he produces a (poor) generic commentary for a partisan audience. If you don't get that go an adopt another club. Yess will do that because a commentator upset you 👍
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Post by rowbeartoe on Sept 5, 2023 13:06:59 GMT
I actually regret my criticisms of the man after Saturday's match. I felt he was incredibly sanitised compared to previous matches and while he was better overall at calling out the action he lost a lot of personality in the process and in a way went too far the other way than what I wanted. Nigel was able to paint the picture of the match with his words while also retaining and embracing his own quirks whereas our new man this weekend reminded me of the bet365 match commentators who might as well be robots for all the charm they have. It's a very hard thing to balance I suppose but I definitely felt like I preferred the more quirky nature he'd shown previously.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 5, 2023 14:03:43 GMT
I actually regret my criticisms of the man after Saturday's match. I felt he was incredibly sanitised compared to previous matches and while he was better overall at calling out the action he lost a lot of personality in the process and in a way went too far the other way than what I wanted. Nigel was able to paint the picture of the match with his words while also retaining and embracing his own quirks whereas our new man this weekend reminded me of the bet365 match commentators who might as well be robots for all the charm they have. It's a very hard thing to balance I suppose but I definitely felt like I preferred the more quirky nature he'd shown previously. The major flaw with that though is if you're not watching on a stream you have absolutely no idea what's going on. As a TV commentator he's passable but on radio he's useless.
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Post by rowbeartoe on Sept 5, 2023 20:40:54 GMT
I actually regret my criticisms of the man after Saturday's match. I felt he was incredibly sanitised compared to previous matches and while he was better overall at calling out the action he lost a lot of personality in the process and in a way went too far the other way than what I wanted. Nigel was able to paint the picture of the match with his words while also retaining and embracing his own quirks whereas our new man this weekend reminded me of the bet365 match commentators who might as well be robots for all the charm they have. It's a very hard thing to balance I suppose but I definitely felt like I preferred the more quirky nature he'd shown previously. The major flaw with that though is if you're not watching on a stream you have absolutely no idea what's going on. As a TV commentator he's passable but on radio he's useless. A valid point I suppose that is the difference between the average and the best when it comes to commentary
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Sept 5, 2023 22:39:37 GMT
I actually regret my criticisms of the man after Saturday's match. I felt he was incredibly sanitised compared to previous matches and while he was better overall at calling out the action he lost a lot of personality in the process and in a way went too far the other way than what I wanted. Nigel was able to paint the picture of the match with his words while also retaining and embracing his own quirks whereas our new man this weekend reminded me of the bet365 match commentators who might as well be robots for all the charm they have. It's a very hard thing to balance I suppose but I definitely felt like I preferred the more quirky nature he'd shown previously. The major flaw with that though is if you're not watching on a stream you have absolutely no idea what's going on. As a TV commentator he's passable but on radio he's useless. The major flaw is that his commentary is being used on both streaming and radio. The requirements of both are quite different - a radio listener wants to know what is going on, whereas a TV viewer can see what is going on and wants something to add to the images (either a bit of emotion, some knowledge that they didn't know beforehand, or things as simple as who is the player on the ball now as they may not recognise them). We also have no idea what he is being told my his bosses - if he's being asked to prioritise viewer over listeners then it not his fault that the radio listeners are suffering. For example, I don't think Nige added much to a game you didn't already know when you are watching the stream (given the amount of wrong names and misidentifications he did then you could argue he actually confused things sometimes), but he had decades of being the voice of Stoke City to fall back on, and people were a lot less bothered because of the 'comfy slippers' factor. On the radio I'm sure he was better, as the requirements were different and he generally flourished on the radio (as it was where his experience lay). I think he has a lot of things to improve on so this is not really a staunch defence of him, but if you take into account the situation he is in it's probably more difficult than people realise.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 16, 2023 15:09:31 GMT
I don't listen that often, but he was absolutely fine first half......
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Post by barcaontrent on Sept 16, 2023 15:10:50 GMT
Much improved
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Post by samwidge on Sept 16, 2023 15:57:56 GMT
Was much much better today. Described the action going on. Well done, keep it up.
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Post by stokeson on Sept 16, 2023 16:16:34 GMT
Not invested in Stoke just doing the job for pay.He does nothing for my matchday experience....
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Post by sticky on Sept 16, 2023 16:21:20 GMT
I don’t think this would be an issue if we were winning games..seems decent enough to me
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 16, 2023 16:30:19 GMT
Don’t like him, find him irritating. Better than Nigel Johnson but that’s not saying much. Seemed to have a hard on about Wesley today, just kept going on about him not imposing himself on their centre backs….didn’t seem to notice they were constantly fouling him and getting away with it. Anyway, perhaps he had a point but he just wouldn’t shut the f up about it.
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Post by kerravon on Sept 16, 2023 16:30:35 GMT
I was very impressed by the BBC Radio Norwich commentary today.
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Post by stokiemarc on Sept 16, 2023 16:33:54 GMT
Not invested in Stoke just doing the job for pay.He does nothing for my matchday experience.... If you want the proper matchday experience then you should be at the ground
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